hey, YNOT Connor ? read this before you wage a public attack against me?

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  • HELMY
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 494

    #1

    hey, YNOT Connor ? read this before you wage a public attack against me?

    Connor,

    As I stated publicly right after our Vegas summer show, we are forced to move away from the month of July in 2009. Although the beginning of June has always been our ideal time of year, we?ve held it in July solely to minimize proximity with other shows. But when our attendees are literally begging us to move our show to an earlier time, we can?t ignore them ? we MUST listen and act on their feedback.

    I contacted LAJ when I saw the Cybernet Expo announcement, hoping that we could figure out a way to work things out since you guys knew we?d be moving from July. Unfortunately the later months suggested by LAJ would not work for us or would pose tremendous challenges because we need sufficient time to produce our 2 winter events (February Conference & Awards).

    As you know, my company continues to give Cybernet Expo coverage and promotions regardless of your personal opinion of me (as you?ve openly expressed to others in the past and continue to do).

    According to LAJ you stated that I should expect to be personally (and publicly) attacked if we do not decide against our new June dates.

    So, the point of this post is to let you (and the community) know that I am still prepared to disregard any personal issues and have our companies figure out a way to work things out.



    Alec
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  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32235

    #2
    Sig spot.....

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    • tony299
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      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

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      • DateDoc
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        #4
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        • StuartD
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          • Jul 2002
          • 29903

          #5
          Originally posted by tony404
          Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.
          maybe????
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          • BradM
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            • Dec 2003
            • 3397

            #6
            How this kid got so much power by being such a cunt is beyond me.

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            • undersoul
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              • Sep 2006
              • 1212

              #7
              Originally posted by tony404
              Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.
              sooo many shows bound to overlap. fuck this new atlanta one is just days before amsterdam. can't keep up lol
              **RIP TD**

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              • Sands
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                • Feb 2007
                • 3134

                #8
                Oh look... drama. How quaint.

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                • TDF
                  Triple OG nigga on GFY
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 27296

                  #9
                  so many shows so little time
                  Sig heil

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                  • NickSunshine
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1196

                    #10
                    I love your summer show Alec

                    Just got the new Xbiz World in the mailbox today too!
                    I'd love to make it up to Tahoe for the winter conference.

                    Hope you guys can resolve this easily.

                    Thanks for everything!

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                    • chemicaleyes
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #11
                      just passing through..
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                      • Evil E
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                        • Apr 2005
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                        #12
                        Can't you guys just handle this like adults and not on message boards?

                        It makes you sound pretty unprofessional.


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                        • candyflip
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 43069

                          #13
                          Wow, real drama perhaps?

                          Spend you some brain.
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                          • mikeyddddd
                            Viva la vulva!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 16557

                            #14


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                            • TurboAngel
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 30122

                              #15
                              Man that was a long post!


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                              • kmanrox
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                                • Oct 2001
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                                #16
                                Alec ... STILL the man!!!!
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                                • Anthony
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                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 9653

                                  #17
                                  HELMY,

                                  Who do I talk too about sponsorship of your summer show with the new dates?

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                                  • Headless
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                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 26727

                                    #18
                                    sig spottus?

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                                    • whatif_3
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jul 2004
                                      • 459

                                      #19
                                      they announced their show first, then your asking them to change their dates? or they are asking you to change yours?

                                      imo people who announce their show first get dibs on the that date, although i can see them getting pissed if you announce yours around that time, because yours is bigger

                                      but its bad form to try to strongarm a company into changing the dates of its show, after its been already announced

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                                      • OY
                                        Industry Pioneer
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 5401

                                        #20
                                        Hmmmmmm....

                                        June is much better for me as I typically is on vacation in July/August.

                                        This year I missed out on both Xbiz and AVN show during summer months.

                                        I hope you guys can sort it out amicably.
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                                        • X Industry Jobs
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                                          #21
                                          Drama is everywheres
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                                          • baddog
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                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Personal attacks rock.

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                                            • JFK
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                                              • Jan 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TDF
                                              so many shows so little time
                                              indeed ....indeed

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                                              • MrBro
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                                                • Nov 2007
                                                • 323

                                                #24
                                                Helmy put your show on the same exact dates as their POS show and put em out of the picture....

                                                Fuck Conner and LAJ , they are afraid put your dates EXACTLY on their show dates ....


                                                Bet you XBIZ show will get more people than the Cybernet thing they call a "Show"

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                                                • Phoenix
                                                  BACON BACON BACON
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 35475

                                                  #25
                                                  heh...ill only go to a show if i know my friends will be there

                                                  i could careless whos show it is..or when it is

                                                  although finding some business could be a good thing...hmm maybe i need to rethink the shows..lol
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                                                  • RyuLion
                                                    • Mar 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    I'll still go to SF no matter what..

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                                                    • Sands
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                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                      • 3134

                                                      #27
                                                      Better idea: buy a shark, and then attach that bad boy to a catapult and launch it toward thine enemies. Flying shark attack. Then you'll get a badass nickname... HELMY the Shark. Do it.

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                                                      • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                        #28
                                                        oh snap..

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                                                        • Anthony
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                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 9653

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MrBro
                                                          Helmy put your show on the same exact dates as their POS show and put em out of the picture....

                                                          Fuck Conner and LAJ , they are afraid put your dates EXACTLY on their show dates ....


                                                          Bet you XBIZ show will get more people than the Cybernet thing they call a "Show"
                                                          As a Platinum Sponsor for The Atlanta Show, and a future sponsor for both of XBiz's shows, my thoughts are to spend money at the shows that will give me the best ROI.

                                                          I don't go to shows to hang out with my "friends", I'm there for new business and to solidify my existing ones. I will sponsor and go to the shows that will provide that.


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                                                          • L-Pink
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                                                            • Mar 2005
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                                                            #30

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                                                            • XPays
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                                                              #31
                                                              do both shows in s.f. and work together? that would mean i could go to 2 shows at once in my hometown, so yes i am being selfish.
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                                                              • Jman
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                                                                • fatfoo
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
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                                                                  • Spunky
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                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 133986

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Kick him in the knackers

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                                                                    • Cory W
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                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 9133

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                      As a Platinum Sponsor for The Atlanta Show, and a future sponsor for both of XBiz's shows, my thoughts are to spend money at the shows that will give me the best ROI.

                                                                      I don't go to shows to hang out with my "friends", I'm there for new business and to solidify my existing ones. I will sponsor and go to the shows that will provide that.

                                                                      I go for the man parties.
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                                                                      • Anthony
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                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 9653

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by WEG Cory
                                                                        I go for the man parties.
                                                                        If you made the last man party, you would have known that the name has been changed too...

                                                                        Manther Party.

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                                                                        • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Jean-Francois
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                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 30307

                                                                            #38
                                                                            LOL Competition has at last reared it's ugly head regarding these so called "Adult" Conventions.

                                                                            Oh my schedualing must be highly competitive these days. What not enough for you guys to have one every month now ya goto fight about how close they are to each other? ROFLMAO!

                                                                            Adult Conventions must be the very last bastion of money making in the business.
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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307

                                                                              #39
                                                                              So the organiser's of these conventions talk nothing but shit about each other behind the scenes as I have said they do time and time again.

                                                                              And all they want is your money folks.
                                                                              It's no wonder the lowest common denominator of people get in these shows these days.

                                                                              I am still waiting for someone to get killed at one by an OD or shooting.

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                                                                              • WWC
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                                                                                • Jul 2003
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)
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                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                    • Apr 2001
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by WWC-Raffi
                                                                                    Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)

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                                                                                    • fuzebox
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                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 22351

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by WWC-Raffi
                                                                                      Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)
                                                                                      Great idea! So... what company will put this show on?

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                                                                                      • Connor
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                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 1294

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Alec,

                                                                                        I am on vacation with my son.

                                                                                        You knew that.

                                                                                        I will deal with this when I get back to the office next Monday.


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                                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by WWC-Raffi
                                                                                          Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)
                                                                                          let's say 2 and 5 days each - one in March/April and one in September/October
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                                                                                          • MOxxx
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                            Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

                                                                                            Take "Maybe" out
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                                                                                            • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              There are a lot of shows, but options are good. Although it makes it hard to schedule and choose which ones to go to. SF for Cybernet is too damn far for me anyway, I liked the one time that they had it Tampa better since I am in FL anyway.

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                                                                                                  • HELMY
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 494

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Connor
                                                                                                    Alec,

                                                                                                    I am on vacation with my son.

                                                                                                    You knew that.

                                                                                                    Then you shouldn't have made such a statement while on vacation.
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