Sooo I just got the banner design I ordered from Jon Clark (pic)
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Good looking banner
, $15 is very good if you only ordered one banner
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No he did not, I'm just ridin the views, spamming the cam proggie a bit
I think the work is good for the price, ordered a 468 one now.
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15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.
It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".
Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???
I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...
It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...
but still 15 $ for a button.....
Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...Divers Do It Deeper !!!Comment
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Great, you will be making all my graphics from now on. I guess since this was outrageous I should have paid what? $3? Can I order 10 buttons and 10 full size banners from you? Will $70 be ok?15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.
It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".
Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???
I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...
It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...
but still 15 $ for a button.....
Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...
gfynicky @ gmail.comComment
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Nice looking banner
That does not suck.
Too bad the guy you bought it from comes off as such a prick sometimes.
Congratulations to the winners
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I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..
Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..
He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...
Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop.. He's got the text fading in.. the logo doesn't.. it's just not smooth or interesting..
15 minutes would have been too long..
Doesn't really show any skills...Last edited by klaze; 09-01-2008, 10:41 PM.Comment
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yup, and if you start breeding cows your steak will be much cheaper too, stick to what you're good at, it took me about 5 hours to make ONE button and that was the last time I played with graphics, on the other hand I can build 100 splogs with 100 posts each in a single day15 $ for a animated gif button ????
..Fuck I'm really out of touch with the REAL world.
It's basically 1$per minute...15 minutes, it what it takes to "learn gif animator".
Really Nicky, you don't have the time to play around for a little while with a software?
You rather pay some guy to do it for you? Buy fish instead of learning to fish???
I'm not flaming/giving shit to the banner seller or buyer...
It's good money goes around and create wealth for everyone...
but still 15 $ for a button.....
Maybe 15 $ for a "very funny and inspired slogan{Branding} " gif or flash button...Comment
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Dont worry mate, these are getting played around with and will have many different styles.I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..
Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..
He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...
Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop..
15 minutes would have been too long..
Definately nothing to be posting to show off or brag or gain some brownie points..
As for the browning or bragging, lmao
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I think it was very well done. You are happy with it, it gets the message across, and you are not waiting around on the designer to get the product to you.
Definitely worth $15.
As far as majortom's comment is concerned, I have to ask, do you work for less than $1 a minute?Comment
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Dude why are the graphics on your site saved out as GIFS???
Even the flash looks low res.. wtf??
Dude.. yer website would look a hell of a lot better saved out as high quality jpegs..
Absolutely no reason to save those graphics out so low quality. I use about 90% jpeg for everything..
GIFs are good for stuff that is low amount of detail and colors and a lot of text.. Makes text look sharp..
But you are using a lot of gradients and color variants..
I'd also have your designer clean up the site.. a bunch of lines just don't match up or look clean.. I dunno.. needs tightening up..Last edited by klaze; 09-01-2008, 10:51 PM.Comment
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Let me look into this. But first: ZzzzzDude why are the graphics on your site saved out as GIFS???
Even the flash looks low res.. wtf??
Dude.. yer website would look a hell of a lot better saved out as high quality jpegs..
Absolutely no reason to save those graphics out so low quality. I use about 90% jpeg for everything..
GIFs are good for stuff that is low amount of detail and colors and a lot of text.. Makes text look sharp..
But you are using a lot of gradients and color variants..
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lmao, you asked him the other day who did the design, you thought it was bad ass...

I am sure who ever designed it used .gif's for the load speed versus heavy jpegs.. I know the owner of VanityCash and he is very particular about load speeds..Comment
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15$ for that banner is a good price.
Anyone who says otherwise obviously doesnt know shit about the biz.
If you pay less, you're either a) getting a really shitty design done or b) going to have to wait a damn long time before getting it.
For those who say he could have done better... well... lets see you make kickass banners for 15$ a pop. Once you realize it takes you 1 hour to create a really cool banner and that you end up only making 15$ an hour, you'll do exactly as John does, make it straightforward and elegant.
and LOL at ppl asking if he created the logo... camon, its 15$ guys...Last edited by NoWhErE; 09-01-2008, 11:12 PM.skype: lordofthecameltoeComment
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15$ for that banner is a good price.
Anyone who says otherwise obviously doesnt know shit about the biz.
If you pay less, you're either a) getting a really shitty design done or b) going to have to wait a damn long time before getting it.
For those who say he could have done better... well... lets see you make kickass banners for 15$ a pop. Once you realize it takes you 1 hour to create a really cool banner and that you end up only making 15$ an hour, you'll do exactly as John does, make it straightforward and elegant.
and LOL at ppl asking if he created the logo... camon, its 15$ guys...

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Told you...
I got to get in touch with the real world...(see avatar name;)
This more what I meant, doesn't show any real (marketing) skills...just a sting of "classic webmasters call"..50% ..etc..I'm going to go on a limb here and say it's pretty weak.. It looks good because it's simple and has good color.. But the main graphic of the banner was pre-designed for him..
Your site has tons of great graphics on it and all he used was the logo..
He even used a poor choice in font selection also looks like he stretched some fonts out...
Also the animation could be tighter, quicker, more pop.. He's got the text fading in.. the logo doesn't.. it's just not smooth or interesting..
15 minutes would have been too long..
Doesn't really show any skills...
No Slogan, nothing out of the ordinary.
But As I think of it, it's not the banner designer job, it's the marketing campaign guy job.
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck reality hits again...I'm off topic...
I wish I could.yup, and if you start breeding cows your steak will be much cheaper too, stick to what you're good at, it took me about 5 hours to make ONE button and that was the last time I played with graphics, on the other hand I can build 100 splogs with 100 posts each in a single day
Yes I get often get trapped (but strangely satisfied) in that kinda experience...
I'm a sailor, I like to be able to repair everything myself on my boat.
I gotta learn more about the "delegation" thing...
I'm afraid so.Originally posted by BaddogAs far as majortom's comment is concerned, I have to ask, do you work for less than $1 a minute?
And in case you wonder what I'm doing. I own a Fisting BDSM Extreme Sex Paysite.
When I was only shooting content, "big sponsor" offered me only 1$/minute of video. I didn't take it. I made my own paysite.
I've been in contact with the American way of doing things {time is money} when I was a commercial deep sea diver...but then over 25 years in Asia are gone...And I'm still here.
Yes, 15$ is not much in America...Fuck, Fuck, Fuck...I'm going into the outsourcing thing...and I don't know shit...no matter it's GFY and people are kind and understanding.
What I wanted to say is that I have, right now, 2 European friends living here, who would gladly make a 100 $ a day to make 10 button and 10 640x70 banners...after I tough them the basics of gif animator. lol
Yes, I can here the comments, yep, they cannot cut it in they own country so bla bla..
It's not about that..
It's more like..here for 15$ I can get a girl for 24 hours....there a banner button....lol
Culture shock...over and over again...after each and every beer..Divers Do It Deeper !!!Comment
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Told you...
I got to get in touch with the real world...(see avatar name;)
This more what I meant, doesn't show any real (marketing) skills...just a sting of "classic webmasters call"..50% ..etc..
No Slogan, nothing out of the ordinary.
But As I think of it, it's not the banner designer job, it's the marketing campaign guy job.
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck reality hits again...I'm off topic...
I wish I could.
Yes I get often get trapped (but strangely satisfied) in that kinda experience...
I'm a sailor, I like to be able to repair everything myself on my boat.
I gotta learn more about the "delegation" thing...
I'm afraid so.
And in case you wonder what I'm doing. I own a Fisting BDSM Extreme Sex Paysite.
When I was only shooting content, "big sponsor" offered me only 1$/minute of video. I didn't take it. I made my own paysite.
I've been in contact with the American way of doing things {time is money} when I was a commercial deep sea diver...but then over 25 years in Asia are gone...And I'm still here.
Yes, 15$ is not much in America...Fuck, Fuck, Fuck...I'm going into the outsourcing thing...and I don't know shit...no matter it's GFY and people are kind and understanding.
What I wanted to say is that I have, right now, 2 European friends living here, who would gladly make a 100 $ a day to make 10 button and 10 640x70 banners...after I tough them the basics of gif animator. lol
Yes, I can here the comments, yep, they cannot cut it in they own country so bla bla..
It's not about that..
It's more like..here for 15$ I can get a girl for 24 hours....there a banner button....lol
Culture shock...over and over again...after each and every beer..




btw, your website sucks ass...Comment
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the banner is ok but i dont see why you would want that. you are running a program man, one that looks pretty nice. why put all that time and money into a program and then go cheap with subpar designs.
hire a real design company and grab some attention. leave the cheap shit for bloggers making a sale a day who cant afford a real design.Comment
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is it worth $15 ? yes i suppose but kind of a waste because you didn't think far enough ahead.
I'm assuming the main reason you bought the banner was to get thread views using jon clarks name and thus some sig views to your program. but you forgot gfy's golden drama rule. More drama = More views = More gold. You bought a cheap banner that is basically worth what you paid for it. No op for drama = less comments = less views = less gold.
You should have overpaid for it and asked him to make you something that looked like a 4 year old did it in paintshop. Then the thread would have been filled with people laughing at jons shoddy overpriced work.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Not bad. If you're happy with it, that's really the only thing that matters
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15 bucks is reasonable, but good god guys. The copy is so boring.
Why do most program ads look identical to each other? Do you not want any differentiation?
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Yawn...
Do something creative for a change.Comment
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Do people really use a message board as a business model?
How many "views" will make all that "gold" on a message board? 2,000? 3,000? A good traffic site would get that in a few minutes. This is just a message board guys. Supposedly for other webmasters, but now filled with surfer trolls. And I doubt the trolls who sit here trying to learn our business vocabulary and making broad comments on the "industry" are ever gonna buy a membership to anything.
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