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gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695444)
Huh? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh WTF?!?! You are flustered aren't you? I'm not barefootsies, I'm Robbie! LOL! You are losing it gideongallery. You constantly think I type things that I didn't!

Your grip on reality is slipping fast. :1orglaugh


you were the one who said

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695277)
Sweet baby jesus! How ironic that tubes and torrents are funded by prepaid ads from dating sites...and now we have somehow "cum" to this? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Okay, okay....fuck it. I'm in too. Me and barefootsies are gonna DP gideongallery. :1orglaugh

after your buddy barefootsies clarified "with the law"

and you were the person who i was responding to (see post 117)
when i said

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14694923)
1. they are not putting up content, they are letting users put up content, as i have said more than a dozen times if you have proof they are doing it themselves then the safe harbor provision does not apply.
2. when you don't misrepresent it as something we both agree is illegal, then the parallel to sony is perfectly valid, both provided a service/technology that could be used to infringe copyright material. Both are not responsible for that potential infringement.


so yes i was talking about you, yes you did back down like a little bitch.

Robbie 09-01-2008 05:11 PM

No I didn't....I was literally meaning that I thought that barefootsies and I were going to have gay 3-way sex with you. I have no idea what the fuck you're babbling about. But you were so lousy that I can't keep my dick hard so I have had to give up on that dream. Guess you'll have to wait for that ass-fucking when you are in prison. lol

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695481)
yes you did back down like a little bitch.

No. You did.

You claimed that taking content you've bought is yours. You can post it on torrents, and tubes, and such based on case law and it was legal.

So, I told you to buy some of our content. Do what you claim is legal. Provide your company info. We'll see you in court.

Now you admit it's illegal.

So you backed down like the little bitch we knew you were.

:)

gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:13 PM

since we now know this "it wasn't me claim" was totally bogus i guess we should trust all those previous claims either :winkwink::winkwink:

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695498)
since we now know this "it wasn't me claim" was totally bogus i guess we should trust all those previous claims either :winkwink::winkwink:

Right.

Now that you admit it's illegal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695498)
which i have already stated multiple times would be illegal)

Guess we can throw out four pages of your bullshit claims and not trust those either (as if any one did).

:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

Robbie 09-01-2008 05:20 PM

Holy shit! LOL! gideongallery you are a pathological liar! You are totally losing it. You better take a "time out" before your parents ground you. :1orglaugh

gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695489)
No. You did.

You claimed that taking content you've bought is yours. You can post it on torrents, and tubes, and such based on case law and it was legal.

So, I told you to buy some of our content. Do what you claim is legal. Provide your company info. We'll see you in court.

Now you admit it's illegal.

So you backed down like the little bitch we knew you were.

:)


i said i would post it on a torrent site

you wanted me to post it on my own torrent site

There is a difference between those two action because i said that if you have proof that they are posting it on their own site the safe harbor provision would not apply. (see post 117)

i have always said that the second act is illegal, and post 117 proves that i said BEFORE you ever made your little claim.

Going a mile past the line i stated and saying if you did this i would win. Doesn't prove that you would win if i stayed within the line i set.

offer still stands i can either post as your content to the torrent site, i will dispute the takedown request we will see who wins

or you can make me a proxy agent for members so that my posting on my own site would be legal so long as it would be legal for your members to do under the safe harbor provision of the dmca(even though such an action has already been stated to be illegal more than 30 posts before your little challenge)

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:29 PM

Keep back peddling little bitch.

If any of your claims were valid, you would post it on your site. No one's going to give you content, then you hide behind a proxy little bitch. To back up content, as you claim, you have to first own it. So go and buy it, then do what you claim is legal.

Just goes to show. You never had a leg to stand on in the first place. Next time, know what the fuck you are talking about. You've proven you do not, and do not have the stones to back up your mouth.

Thanks for playing toots. :)

Case closed.

gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14694923)
1. they are not putting up content, they are letting users put up content, as i have said more than a dozen times if you have proof they are doing it themselves then the safe harbor provision does not apply.2. when you don't misrepresent it as something we both agree is illegal, then the parallel to sony is perfectly valid, both provided a service/technology that could be used to infringe copyright material. Both are not responsible for that potential infringement.

post 117
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695230)
Steal some of my content. Let me know where you post it. I'll hit you with a DMCA, and we will do this dance friend. While your at it. Steal some of Robbie's, and Jim Gunn's. I am sure we would LOVE putting you out of "business" and further more shutting your mouth on this issue.

Now, hedge those bets chief. If you DO actually have a company. That should be nice and tasty for my lawyers.

Game on.

came before post 129

what you are doing is the equivalent to me saying to proving that first ammendment has a right to film people fucking, pimp your girls out on the street as prostitutes and see if you are going to get convicted. You would never do that because you know that without filming aspect your acts are no longer protected.

Without the independent posting action mine would also not be protected.

Like i said if you want to test what i am actually saying is legal, we can dance, but i will not do something I public said was illegal BEFORE you ever made your little challenge.



see it helps to be able to count

Robbie 09-01-2008 05:37 PM

hahahahahahahaha! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
gideongallery is having his ass handed to him. :1orglaugh

I can picture gideongallery now...sitting in a dark corner of his room at his parents house sobbing as he lights the crack pipe. And as he drools all over himself he keeps muttering over and over: "fair use, safe harbor, fair use, safe harbor"
:pimp

marketsmart 09-01-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695552)
Keep back peddling little bitch.

If any of your claims were valid, you would post it on your site. No one's going to give you content, then you hide behind a proxy little bitch. To back up content, as you claim, you have to first own it. So go and buy it, then do what you claim is legal.

Just goes to show. You never had a leg to stand on in the first place. Next time, know what the fuck you are talking about. You've proven you do not, and do not have the stones to back up your mouth.

Thanks for playing toots. :)

Case closed.

i am going to steal your content and post it to my safe harbor located off the coast africa...

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:43 PM

I said case closed little bitch. Here is some reading for your pea brain.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ment-case.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ted-video.html

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14695581)
i am going to steal your content and post it to my safe harbor located off the coast africa...

YOU are still based in the U.S. chief.
Have at it.
:)

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695571)
hahahahahahahaha! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
gideongallery is having his ass handed to him. :1orglaugh

I can picture gideongallery now...sitting in a dark corner of his room at his parents house sobbing as he lights the crack pipe. And as he drools all over himself he keeps muttering over and over: "fair use, safe harbor, fair use, safe harbor"
:pimp

:rasta :rasta

marketsmart 09-01-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695590)
YOU are still based in the U.S. chief.
Have at it.
:)

"safe harbor" was used as a literal... like a harbor for boats....

take a deep breath and calm down...

gidgit got you all worked up...

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14695601)
"safe harbor" was used as a literal... like a harbor for boats....
.

I was kidding zingerz jr...

gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695491)
No I didn't....I was literally meaning that I thought that barefootsies and I were going to have gay 3-way sex with you. I have no idea what the fuck you're babbling about. But you were so lousy that I can't keep my dick hard so I have had to give up on that dream. Guess you'll have to wait for that ass-fucking when you are in prison. lol

let review for everyone barefootsies said

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695230)
Steal some of my content. Let me know where you post it. I'll hit you with a DMCA, and we will do this dance friend. While your at it. Steal some of Robbie's, and Jim Gunn's. I am sure we would LOVE putting you out of "business" and further more shutting your mouth on this issue.

Now, hedge those bets chief. If you DO actually have a company. That should be nice and tasty for my lawyers.

Game on.

you replied

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695251)
hang on now barefootsies...lol You just said you want to fuck gideongallery in the ass? WTF?!?!? This thread has taken a new romantic turn now! heh-heh


barefootsie replyed
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695270)
"with the law"
:winkwink:

and your next response was

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695277)
Sweet baby jesus! How ironic that tubes and torrents are funded by prepaid ads from dating sites...and now we have somehow "cum" to this? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Okay, okay....fuck it. I'm in too. Me and barefootsies are gonna DP gideongallery. :1orglaugh



after he clarified "with the law".

guess we know who is lying

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695606)
guess we know who is lying

Here's a mirror for you.


Enjoy.
:)


Case closed.

marketsmart 09-01-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695609)
I was kidding zingerz jr...

OMG, i'll rape you if you ever call me that again.... :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14695619)
OMG, i'll rape you if you ever call me that again.... :1orglaugh


Robbie 09-01-2008 05:56 PM

gideongallery you numbnut dumbfuck! lol I said "fuck it I'm in too" right after I made a joke about dating sites and homosexual liasons. I meant I was going to ass fuck you too. Not legally dipshit...but in real life. Heh-heh-heh. In other words it was humorous. I don't need to lie. I can handle your mental midget ass just fine without resorting to lying.

You are a clueless loser. But I don't hate you...you have started to grow on me. Like a venereal wart. Now you're just another amusing "character" to me here on GFY.

But you're still a loser. BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

gideongallery 09-01-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695587)
I said case closed little bitch. Here is some reading for your pea brain.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ment-case.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ted-video.html

from the article you just posted

Had this involved a US court, the outcome would have been different. In the US, web site operators can (and do) argue that the Safe Harbor provision in the DMCA protects them from liability as long as they remove infringing content after being presented with a takedown notice

and

Copyright infringement is treated very differently in India than it is in the US, which is part of the reason why Super Cassettes Industries has been so successful with the courts. Section 79 of India's Information Technology Act of 2000 (PDF) holds ISPs, web hosts, e-mail services, social networks, and the like liable for the copyright infringement of their users. Such service providers are protected in the US as long as they respond to takedown requests, however, thanks to the DMCA's Safe Harbor provision.


outside of wishful thinking what was the point of posting articles which explictly that the opposite would occur if it happened in the US.

Robbie 09-01-2008 06:02 PM

You sure do write in big letters. Trying to compensate for something gideongallery?

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:06 PM

Apparently not having any legal leg to stand on was more than gideongallery could bear...


He ain't no daisy at all.

gideongallery 09-01-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695663)
You sure do write in big letters. Trying to compensate for something gideongallery?

sorry i though you barefootsies forgot your granny glasses, given the number of times s/he miss/misrepresented clearly spelled out points.


:winkwink::winkwink:

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:12 PM

Oh, and before you get a chance to change it.

Administrative Contact:
jacques, aaron [email protected]
stripclubfuck.com
1477 glengarry ave
london, Ontario n5x 1r2
Canada
(519) 438-7813

We'll go ahead and note that for the record in this thread so we know who to serve.

Carry on fine sire.

:)

gideongallery 09-01-2008 06:12 PM

anyway holiday is over have to get back to work

enjoy yourself you back peddling bitches :winkwink::winkwink:

remember any time any of you guys are up to putting my torrents as a fair use backup "theories" to the test i am game
just post your sites with a my backup theory quoted and we can take this dance to the courts.

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695690)
remember any time any of you guys are up to putting my torrents as a fair use backup "theories" to the test i am game
.

Oh lookie...

Torrent domains hosted on GoDaddy.

I love when I see this.

:)

Game on princess.

Robbie 09-01-2008 06:22 PM

Uh-oh...gideongallery you went and kept running those dickskinners and now you have put barefootsies on a mission to fuck you up. Great business plan gideongallery. I'm sure pussycash is enjoying having you representing them with that banner.

Robbie 09-01-2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695690)
back to work

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh gideongallery stop it! I haven't laughed this hard in years! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

candyflip 09-01-2008 06:33 PM

Whoever hired Gideon to play sig whore is a brilliant marketing genius.

The same group of guys will argue with him for 4 pages every time, no fail.

He might be a moron, but he sure gets you guys fired up.

gideongallery 09-01-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695705)
Oh lookie...

Torrent domains hosted on GoDaddy.

I love when I see this.

:)

Game on princess.

considering i mentioned the idea months ago
it amazing you think this is a discovery

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=826136

lawyer said to wait until a couple of rulings happen before this was 100% legal

please post the reply with your site list so i can get that last one out of the and can start this project.

see i will even say pretty please

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695761)
considering i mentioned the idea months ago

Do you think you are someone famous around here with your couple of hundred posts? :helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695761)
it amazing you think this is a discovery

Did I say I was amazed? I don't think so.

Oh that's right... as Robbie has pointed out.. you like to make things up.

:)

Robbie 09-01-2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695753)
Whoever hired Gideon to play sig whore is a brilliant marketing genius.

The same group of guys will argue with him for 4 pages every time, no fail.

He might be a moron, but he sure gets you guys fired up.

Are you kidding me? :1orglaugh You're the same genius who defended Klaze when I asked who the fuck he was. Turns out he's a fake nick who got banned before. Wow. I never saw that one coming. :1orglaugh

And now you think that gideongallery is a sigwhore? For who? PussyCash. Nope. Believe me on that one.

And I ain't fired up. I'm having fun with this loser. I'm trying to entertain y'all. But I promised myself that the first person who got annoyed by this shit...I'll stop. I'm just trying to entertain myself and all who read gideongallery's legal prowess.

So if this shit is starting to get old let me know. I'll stop. :pimp

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14695777)
And I ain't fired up.

Exactly.

It's more a less correcting some low level retard who thinks he knows something about case law. We've shown he doesn't have the stones. He also admitted it was illegal, and now says he's "game on". The lawyers should have a field day.

I doubt PussyCash who sponsors shows where they have seminars on these types of issues, including copyright, torrents, lawsuits, tube sites, is not a fan of someone admitting to these practices.

But I'll ask them in Atlanta. :winkwink::winkwink:

gideongallery 09-01-2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695776)
Do you think you are someone famous around here with your couple of hundred posts? :helpme



Did I say I was amazed? I don't think so.

Oh that's right... as Robbie has pointed out.. you like to make things up.

:)

it's not it
as in it's amazing you think that is a discovery


as in i am surprised you think it a discovery
or as in i am surprised you didn't spend a couple seconds searching to see if i mentioned it

as i am amazed you would think someone who has never hidden his real identity is hidding some torrent site domain he owns.

Context baby, it sad the only way you can claim i am making things up is to take my statement out of the context written.

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:53 PM

You are correct on one assertion...

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 14695753)
He might be a moron

:)

Robbie 09-01-2008 06:53 PM

Good idea! We can talk to them on the 17th! We'll all be at the PussyCash sponsored strip club. Free booze and free lap dances with shuttle buses coming and going from the hotel to the club every 15 minutes! :) Too bad you can't go gideongallery. It's an event for people who are actually in this business. No surfers allowed.

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695796)
it's not it
as in it's amazing you think that is a discovery
as in i am surprised you think it a discovery
or as in i am surprised you didn't spend a couple seconds searching to see if i mentioned it

Did I say I was surprised?

Nope.

Once again I reiterate, "are you someone famous in your couple of hundred posts". So much so that I am supposed to spend time "running searches" on your past claims to fame?

Didn't think so.

:)

gideongallery 09-01-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695784)
Exactly.

It's more a less correcting some low level retard who thinks he knows something about case law. We've shown he doesn't have the stones. He also admitted it was illegal, and now says he's "game on". The lawyers should have a field day.

i am 4/4 on my predictions.
the only way you can claim i am wrong is by misrepresenting what i say (ignoring the fact that i said it was illegal more than 12 post before you called me out)

I am perfectly willing to take this to the courts, if you want to go there, just post your sites. I will signup and then back up everything to the torrent sites. When the take down request comes i will dispute based on the points i have made.



Quote:

I doubt PussyCash who sponsors shows where they have seminars on these types of issues, including copyright, torrents, lawsuits, tube sites, is not a fan of someone admitting to these practices.

But I'll ask them in Atlanta. :winkwink::winkwink:
pussy cash is immune to the damage from piracy because they get it moving to live processes is a solution that tv programs saw and did.

IF you want to keep making money even though the laws are against taking down tube sites and torrent sites signup with them.
they will continue to make money no matter how much digital content gets pirated.

That being said if they don't want someone who can only be refuted by misrepresenting what he says. who is perfectly willing to put up his own money in court to argue a principle of law that he thinks is right. And who arguement only prove their benefit (immunity to piracy conserns) then so be it. Tell them to send me an email i will swap out the banner to another live sponsor.

SomeCreep 09-01-2008 07:06 PM

Is a thread where people who are not lawyers argue about the law? Lol, shit does not get any more idiotic than that.

gideongallery 09-01-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14695809)
Did I say I was surprised?

Nope.

Once again I reiterate, "are you someone famous in your couple of hundred posts". So much so that I am supposed to spend time "running searches" on your past claims to fame?

Didn't think so.

:)

put on the granny glasses bare footsies

i said as in i am surprised not you are surpised

well par for the course first you completely miss that i said posting content on your own site is illegal BEFORE you ever called me out


now you don't know the difference between i and you.

so sad.

Robbie 09-01-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14695834)
shit does not get any more idiotic than that.

Give me a few more posts...I'm sure we can rachet up the idiocy! :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695824)
i am 4/4 on my predictions.

Once more I reiterate. Are you someone famous with these predictions that anyone knows about, much less cares about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695824)
the only way you can claim i am wrong is by misrepresenting what i say

Really?? Misrepresented what I said. Hmm. Interesting. I think I have just shown in what now? Two, three posts in a row you doing that to me.

Yeah. Maybe you should just give up now. You are making yourself look even more ridiculous.

As if that's possible from post 1.

:)

Barefootsies 09-01-2008 07:16 PM

Is English your second language?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695846)
you think it a discovery

Did I say I thought it was a discovery?

Nope.

:)

Yngwie 09-01-2008 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14695681)
sorry i though you barefootsies forgot your granny glasses, given the number of times s/he miss/misrepresented clearly spelled out points.


:winkwink::winkwink:

misrepresented? Maybe you should learn proper english.. The word you're trying to use is MISINTERPRET. Of course, the ones you thinks are MISINTERPRETING what you say are not. You're just stuck on thinking that you are right and know it all.

bhutocracy 09-02-2008 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 14693518)
And btw i have no problem with muscians being as rich as they want to be. I fully support bands like radio head in what they are doing (cutting the middle man out of the opperation). Did you know that they made more money from all the free loaders who took the album for free then the record company would have paid them if they sold the album.

They made a deal with the venues that they toured to get a commission for every ticket they sold. Since artist only get like 1.05 per album, that commission x the number of buyers exceed the 1.05 they would have gotten if every one of those free loaders had bought the album.

The only one who got screwed was the record company, because they got cut out of the deal. And considering how much they rape artist every single day.

Using the suffering artist as a strawman is just as bogus as when the record companies do it.

This is clueless. The #1 issue facing indie musicians today is the commodification of music after the advent of free mp3s. That a few big stars that have ALREADY benefitted from record company exposure can pull a Radiohead or NIN is the strawman. Your indie artist now has to give their product away to try and cut through the wall of shit from a billion other basement tards all giving their shit away and no one with any kind of money for recording and promotion to actually stand out. It's fine if all you want is a few blow jobs after a gig but it's never been harder to make a living as a musician than it is right now.

gideongallery 09-07-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 14696450)
misrepresented? Maybe you should learn proper english.. The word you're trying to use is MISINTERPRET. Of course, the ones you thinks are MISINTERPRETING what you say are not. You're just stuck on thinking that you are right and know it all.


it would have been misinterpreted if he stopped with his you backpeddled bullshit after i pointed out that i had said putting it up on your own site would not be covered by the safe harbor provision. That the fair use right of backup using a torrent stopped the second you made money from the act (like putting it up on your own torrent site so you could collect the money from the advertising).


When he continued to claim i backpeddled he was misrepresenting what i said.

I have always said that people have a fair use right back the content they purchased to the torrent sites.

I have said that torrent sites are entitled to make money by providing people that right to back up the content they purchased.

I have never said that the torrent site owner has a right to put the content up on his own site, collect money from that and pretend that they is doing it for the fair use right of backing up.


When he claimed i was backpeddling because i would not be willing to do the latter,after i explictly pointed out that i had clearly said that it would be illegal if you loaded it on your own site, he was MISREPRESENTING what i said.

gideongallery 09-07-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 14696816)
This is clueless. The #1 issue facing indie musicians today is the commodification of music after the advent of free mp3s. That a few big stars that have ALREADY benefitted from record company exposure can pull a Radiohead or NIN is the strawman. Your indie artist now has to give their product away to try and cut through the wall of shit from a billion other basement tards all giving their shit away and no one with any kind of money for recording and promotion to actually stand out. It's fine if all you want is a few blow jobs after a gig but it's never been harder to make a living as a musician than it is right now.


sick puppies got famous on youtube before they ever signed a record deal

They sold singles of their song "all the same " on itunes because of their "free hugs" video

juan mann appeared on many news shows discussing the event




Marie digby sung covers of other peoples songs on youtube



built a fan base wrote her own original songs "say it again" and sold it on itunes.





she has
Subscribers: 96,991
Channel Views: 2,661,113
all those subscribers recieve emails about her live appearances whenever she tours

she promoted herself without any help from the record company.

The free economy has a different method of promotion then traditional music channels
torrent sites, youtube replace the radio as the promotional vehicle of choice.

artist get so little of the revenue from a record sale that even if they give their stuff away for free, collect emails and market their live appearances they will make more money if they promote themselves. Their fans will still buy their stuff on itunes, or directly from them They get their cut of the adsense from when their videos are played.

if you are talented and smart there is a lot of money to be earned from giving away your music.

klaze 09-07-2008 06:48 PM

I'm going to run an illegal tube with content from only the programs who are affiliated with illegal tube sites and warez sites.


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