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baddog 08-29-2008 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 14685959)
However it goes, I'll be waiting here ready to go to work if need be.
I seem to recall your nick gives a hint as to your real life. If so, good luck.

EmpireAutopilot 08-29-2008 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 14685457)
The Democrats seem pretty pissed off with McCain's choice of Sarah Palin...

I love it!


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Pissed off, are you fucking kidding? Every woman I've asked in person sees it for the bullshit pandering that it is. Not only that, McCain will now have nowhere to take his inexperience argument. :1orglaugh

TheDoc 08-29-2008 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14685958)
hmmm, you would think with all the tourism.
Dude, have you ever been to that part of the country? Tourism, isn't something they thrive off of. One City, having a street and a few events, doesn't count as Tourism for an entire bi-state region.

baddog 08-29-2008 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14685966)
the same link I gave before its two pages :)
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/HurricaneK...1102467&page=1
Sorry, I missed that paragraph. So she put the cart before the horse.

baddog 08-29-2008 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14685970)
Dude, have you ever been to that part of the country? Tourism, isn't something they thrive off of. One City, having a street and a few events, doesn't count as Tourism for an entire bi-state region.
Yeah, a couple times. I hate N.O. so try to avoid if possible. So what is your solution? The feds should just foreclose on LA and MS

tony286 08-29-2008 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 14685959)
They are better prepared to get the people out that really cant get themselves out and they are not foolish enough to set up shelter in an area that can be flooded. There are no shelters of last resort in the city of New Orleans (i.e. the SuperDome).



Yes, new orleans and I'll be here for the duration.



I don't put all the blame on Bush even though that seems to be very unpopular over here.
In fact, I don't put any blame on him. Before Katrina politicians didn't know shit about emergency management or Incident Command. Most probably still don't but maybe they are learning.

As far as the residents being smarter or hanging out.. who knows. There are some that seem destined to stay saying "it cant happen again this soon". There are others that have left already. And there will be others that claim they couldn't afford it while they sit at their government subsidized housing with a $50,000 vehicle and $3,000 rims to make it look cool.

However it goes, I'll be waiting here ready to go to work if need be.
I hope every thing works out and I wish you the best.

Fire 08-29-2008 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14685968)
I seem to recall your nick gives a hint as to your real life. If so, good luck.
That is true.. and I'm sure you can guess which city.. anyway thanks.

baddog 08-29-2008 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 14685988)
That is true.. and I'm sure you can guess which city.. anyway thanks.
You know the cop that hangs at JBM? If not, should hunt him down. Nice guy.

Fire 08-29-2008 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14685970)
Dude, have you ever been to that part of the country? Tourism, isn't something they thrive off of. One City, having a street and a few events, doesn't count as Tourism for an entire bi-state region.

Don't know what part of the country you are talking about but New Orleans does thrive off of tourism.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14685983)
Yeah, a couple times. I hate N.O. so try to avoid if possible. So what is your solution? The feds should just foreclose on LA and MS
You don't blame the people, and you don't blame a state that had no idea what was going to happen. You don't blame Bush either, but it's just fine to blame FIMA.

I don't know what to do with it, really. Maybe you do get the states to start a rebuilding-funding program. Maybe it's fed funded, maybe shared across the damage states or something.

Whatever it is it has to be done a tiny bit better than it is for some states, while others seem to have other funds in place to assist with such problems. So it's clearly not equal from state to state.

Either way, it's not Mexico, we can't just build a wall and ignore the entire area.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 14686003)
Don't know what part of the country you are talking about but New Orleans does thrive off of tourism.
I'm talking about two states that got ran over by a Hurricane, the Tourism in N.O. doesn't fund every local city, area, town in the bi-state region. And the Tourism it does produce isn't enough to fund a disaster plan, it isn't Las Vegas.

baddog 08-29-2008 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14686010)
I'm talking about two states that got ran over by a Hurricane, the Tourism in N.O. doesn't fund every local city, area, town in the bi-state region. And the Tourism it does produce isn't enough to fund a disaster plan, it isn't Las Vegas.
So, N.O. is like a 22 year old webmaster that spends his money as fast as it comes in.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14686023)
So, N.O. is like a 22 year old webmaster that spends his money as fast as it comes in.
It doesn't matter how fast they spend it, we are talking billions, which goes back into the city to help improve it, so it does get spent.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 10:52 PM
How many Cities can you name that could start funding something like this? Most Cities run on the edge of Bankrupt along with most States.

Both would have to really increase your taxes, tourism would need to be taxed, everything would need to be taxed more, the state needs billions of surplus money. That would have a huge effect on the area, the poor, everyone, in a very bad way.

tony286 08-29-2008 10:54 PM
I hope it isnt bad, Kandi peach and Sinclair are down there. Good people.

baddog 08-29-2008 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14686037)
How many Cities can you name that could start funding something like this? Most Cities run on the edge of Bankrupt along with most States.

Both would have to really increase your taxes, tourism would need to be taxed, everything would need to be taxed more, the state needs billions of surplus money. That would have a huge effect on the area, the poor, everyone, in a very bad way.
You realize that federal assistance is there if they cross their t's and dot their i's, and turn in the forms.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14686046)
You realize that federal assistance is there if they cross their t's and dot their i's, and turn in the forms.
They got federal assistance, you said the state should pay for it. It's not like they would have or could have evacuated the region, and both states known to have done it.

And when it comes to peoples lives, making sure some pile of shit paper work has a t crossed is total bullshit.

baddog 08-29-2008 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14686059)
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And when it comes to peoples lives, making sure some pile of shit paper work has a t crossed is total bullshit.
yeah, I am sure you would feel that way if the feds just came in and took over things in your state under the guise of saving lives.

That paperwork is there for a reason.

TheDoc 08-29-2008 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14686067)
yeah, I am sure you would feel that way if the feds just came in and took over things in your state under the guise of saving lives.

That paperwork is there for a reason.
Is this the state coming in to evac people before a disaster happens? Well of course the state would have a problem with that, just as the people would.

And not crossing a T or dotting an I, means paper work was filed but not done correctly. So if this was after the disaster, the fed gov has no excuses.

baddog 08-29-2008 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14686078)
Is this the state coming in to evac people before a disaster happens? Well of course the state would have a problem with that, just as the people would.

And not crossing a T or dotting an I, means paper work was filed but not done correctly. So if this was after the disaster, the fed gov has no excuses.
Sorry, now you are rambling. I am having to read three times to figure out what you mean. I am going to go watch some TV.

davidd 08-29-2008 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14685926)
I still haven't figured out why everyone wants to blame the feds. Every time we have a major earthquake, or wild fires, or other natural disaster, the first thing we here is that fed assistance has been requested and granted. That shit is immediate.

The state and local government in N.O. and LA dropped the ball, big time. :2 cents:
Self reliance, hints at states rights, and the responsibility of locally elected officials should not be spoken of. A strong Federal Govt that handles all state issues should be the talking point of the day.

It was clearly the fault of the Federal Govt.

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