Originally Posted by GregE (Post 14678996)

Of course, the inverse of that principle applies as well....and that's why McCain will lose.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14678037)

Sounds like you have taken the campaign rhetoric hook, line and sinker. I highly doubt free health care is on our immediate horizon, no matter who is elected.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14680436)

I'm not taking a side here. It's hard to deny that Democrats like to give a lot of shit to poor people. Raising minimum wages, pushing health care, longer terms for unemployment, more tax breaks for poor, welfare, and so on.

I'm just saying that if I was making $35,000 a year and had two kids, I would get more from the policies of Democrats than Republicans. That doesn't make that policy right for this country as a whole or fair, just means that the poorer people will benefit more.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680009)

Well, if more people are worse off than they were 8 years ago, and people vote accordingly, then McCain could lose, if you want to believe the propaganda that McCain is the same as Bush.

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 14680774)

Unemployment is up, foreclosures are up, inflation is up, the deficit has gone through the fucking roof and energy prices are out of control. I think it's a pretty safe bet that a lot of people are worse off now than they were 8 years ago.

Is McCain exactly the same as Bush? No, he's not. The fundamentalists don't trust him for one (and that's a good sign), but he's still too close for comfort. Way, way, waaaay too close.

Hell, McCain's opposition to net neutrality alone should be enough reason for anyone involved in e-commerce to oppose him.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14676414)

Because you seem to have a problem with English comprehension, so I figured it was a 2nd or 3rd language for you.

And it is obvious you missed everything he was saying, and what he was saying was true.

None of those people could do it for $50/hour. He was not suggesting that is how much migrant workers are paid. He was saying Mexicans work for dirt cheap wages, while the cracker couldn't do it for $50/hour.

If you weren't so quick to slam the guy you might have picked up on that on your own.

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14676383)

You mean like ignorant rednecks that make minimum wage voting for Bush over Gore and Kerry because someone told them those guys would take away their guns? Not only would they still have their guns they would have gotten a pay raise YEARS ago. I always find it amusing to hear low wage rednecks bitching about low wages then you ask who they vote for and they say they vote republican I say "Well there you go". They don't get it.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14676414)

Because you seem to have a problem with English comprehension, so I figured it was a 2nd or 3rd language for you.

And it is obvious you missed everything he was saying, and what he was saying was true.

None of those people could do it for $50/hour. He was not suggesting that is how much migrant workers are paid. He was saying Mexicans work for dirt cheap wages, while the cracker couldn't do it for $50/hour.

If you weren't so quick to slam the guy you might have picked up on that on your own.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14676414)

Because you seem to have a problem with English comprehension, so I figured it was a 2nd or 3rd language for you.

And it is obvious you missed everything he was saying, and what he was saying was true.

None of those people could do it for $50/hour. He was not suggesting that is how much migrant workers are paid. He was saying Mexicans work for dirt cheap wages, while the cracker couldn't do it for $50/hour.

If you weren't so quick to slam the guy you might have picked up on that on your own.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14676437)

People vote for what effects them. If you are worse off today than you were 8 years ago, then you might want Obama.

It would be a winning ticket if Biden was pres and Obama was veep, but I doubt Biden would have picked him.

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 14680818)

I believe you also have a problem with English comprehension. I may not care much for how I spell or represent myself on GFY, however I do know not to start sentences with "Because or And".

I do not really have a problem with you baddog but if your going to use something to attack someone, you should know how to do it right yourself.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680778)

Are you better off than you were 8 years ago?

Originally Posted by davidd (Post 14676628)

And your comment illustrates the difference between Democrats and Republican voters. I will lump the Libertarians in with the Republicans on this as they match on this topic.

I do not want help from Government! Never have... never will. I want a neutered government with limited powers and abilities.

Government should not be dictating wages.

Government should not be providing health care... This is not the role of the federal government. If a state chooses to be a socialist utopia... rock on. I will then be able to move and not deal with it. Choice... Freedom of movement to make a decision as to what is best for me and my loved ones.

Your entire comment is, "Give me free shit... and bill someone else for my life". This is a new phenomenon since FDR and makes people subservient to mommy. Which is and was the goal... as the more people on the 'payroll' the more people will vote to keep that check and benefits coming.... Until the people footing the bill stop paying and leave.

When I was making $7000 a year out of highschool I did not vote Democrat and when I made my first million I was not voting Democrat. Still not voting Democrat... I knew the principles of each of party and I am one who is about self-empowerment not of victim politics. The best thing you can do for a person is have jobs available and opportunity to succeed. Handouts and class warfare will never accomplish this.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680828)

Why don't you enlighten us as to what McCain's message was? While you are at it, please explain how beginning a sentence with And or Because has fuck all to do with comprehension.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680852)

A favorite rule of schoolteachers (but curiously absent from the tradition of usage commentary) is that a sentence must not begin with because. Sometimes, however, because is perfectly appropriate as the opening word of a sentence, as in the beginning of one of Emily Dickinson's best-known poems: "Because I could not stop for Death?/He kindly stopped for me." In fact, sentences beginning with because are quite common in written English

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 14680882)

That is nice. However you were not speaking/writing poetry. The world 'because' can be used to start a sentence, if you use it properly.

Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14680835)

Thanks for Bush, I hope it was worth it in your warped ass world.

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 14680818)

I believe you also have a problem with English comprehension. I may not care much for how I spell or represent myself on GFY, however I do know not to start sentences with "Because or And".

I do not really have a problem with you baddog but if your going to use something to attack someone, you should know how to do it right yourself.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680828)

Why don't you enlighten us as to what McCain's message was? While you are at it, please explain how beginning a sentence with And or Because has fuck all to do with comprehension.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14680828)

Why don't you enlighten us as to what McCain's message was? While you are at it, please explain how beginning a sentence with And or Because has fuck all to do with comprehension.

Originally Posted by split_joel (Post 14681345)

In fact, I do believe you have a problem with the English language. Primarily comprehension with a hint of Grammar. I would recommend that you look further into your studies of the English language.

I am going to attempt to be somewhat of an ambassador to the English language and remind you of some key primers there in.

When you begin a sentence, you rarely start with "And" or "Because". It is considered to be somewhat incorrect. However, do not get me wrong; the word "and" or "because" is used in the beginning of some sentences. While informal it is used. Proper English never begins with the word "And" or "Because".

Also remember that when using statements such as your "... About how much a field worker gets paid too." This statement should read: ".. About how a field worker tends to get paid." The addition of "Too" to the end is actually quite pointless and serves no purpose.

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