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Fletch XXX 08-25-2008 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660696)
Pretty sure military bases count as US soil.
If it was not up for debate the news articles wouldn't be so plentiful.

however, where mccain was born, was actually *NOT* considered US soil.

"the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

this wiki specifically goes into Mccain.

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federal law states that "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States".[6] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retrospective effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.
very much up for legal debate.

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However, the question as to whether or not he is a citizen from birth cannot be answered by this law because (1) it took effect after his birth and (2) it does not state that the person's citizenship was acquired at birth, only that they are a citizen by means of the law's establishment (and, hence, at the time the law takes effect). Indeed, the law in 1936 stated that all persons born to US citizens outside the "limits and jurisdictions of the United States" but the problem is that the Panama Canal Zone was within the limits and jurisdictions of the United States. Thus, the status of Mr. McCain remains unsettled.

pornguy 08-25-2008 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by steffie (Post 14657888)
I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
Does not mean that he can legally run for President.

You Children if they were born in Germany CAN NOT run for president.

Pleasurepays 08-25-2008 01:54 PM
Didn't Hillary say she had a bomb to drop in the middle of the campaign?

What could be better for her than wishing him luck, giving him her delegates, talking about what a great guy he is and how great he'll be for the country and then .... "for whatever reason" he's disqualified?

just sayin

directfiesta 08-25-2008 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 14661074)
If it was not up for debate the news articles wouldn't be so plentiful.

however, where mccain was born, was actually *NOT* considered US soil.

"the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

this wiki specifically goes into Mccain.



very much up for legal debate.
very good point ....

Sexxxy Sites 08-25-2008 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 14661074)
If it was not up for debate the news articles wouldn't be so plentiful.

however, where mccain was born, was actually *NOT* considered US soil.

"the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

this wiki specifically goes into Mccain.



very much up for legal debate.
It is my understanding that a child born of an American citizen who is serving in the military and is serving abroad and the child is born in whatever country the military person is serving is born an American citizen...so if I am correct the above woult not apply to McCain.

baddog 08-25-2008 02:30 PM
I love everyone's reliance on wikipedia. Too funny.

Brujah 08-25-2008 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660688)
Just proves what an idiot you are.
You're such a dumbass. It was a joke, and based on a movie reference that I posted. Some got it, you didn't. :1orglaugh

Young 08-25-2008 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by davidd (Post 14657957)
In Obama's case his mother was banging half the 3rd world so it is unclear what citizenships he has and where in fact he was born.
You can't take it that a black man might one day run this country...admit it. It's ok.

Young 08-25-2008 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 14659822)
Interesting read but anything can be written in a suit and just the filing of a suit does not make it fact. This was interesting though....
FactCheck.org held, photographed, and confirmed the authenticity of Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate.

It doesn't take much to debunk this stuff....only retards tend to find it "interesting" actually.

mvee 08-25-2008 02:40 PM
he is a fake and a terrorist

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RXXr9oLd9S4

Young 08-25-2008 02:42 PM
The frivolous "lawsuit" (even though many have contacted the PA court system but can't confirm an actual docket) largely hangs on the fact that Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake. Because if it's genuine then there is no argument....

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Originally Posted by FactCheck.org
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
If you're too retarded to read then all of the pictures of the actual document are within this link.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

Brujah 08-25-2008 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14661867)
I love everyone's reliance on wikipedia. Too funny.
You try so hard to be smart, but you do it in such a pretentious know-it-all way that you end up looking really stupid most of the time when you post. Wikipedia is a great reference and you can often find the sources of their data. For example, they reference an article from the New York Times about the Panama Canal Zone.

In addition, they reference the actual US law code from that year at the Justia site.

TheSenator 08-25-2008 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14661867)
I love everyone's reliance on wikipedia. Too funny.
It is a good resource because it site references. If you are wrote a thesis or dissertation for any advance or graduate college course then you would be familiar on how wikipedia is cited. Wikipedia tries its best to cite its reference and if it doesn't then it usually states "This article needs additional citations for verification". I usually like citing certain thing on wikipedia then cross references that subject with another site. Although, not perfect it is almost the same as reading two books on the same subject and crossing referencing it with another.

Fletch XXX 08-25-2008 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 14662142)
It is a good resource because it site references. If you are wrote a thesis or dissertation for any advance or graduate college course then you would be familiar on how wikipedia is cited. Wikipedia tries its best to cite its reference and if it doesn't then it usually states "This article needs additional citations for verification". I usually like citing certain thing on wikipedia then cross references that subject with another site. Although, not perfect it is almost the same as reading two books on the same subject and crossing referencing it with another.
Wikipedia is also used by judges in courts.

here is a very long list of court cases that cite wikipedia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...a_court_source

JA$ON 08-25-2008 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660696)
Pretty sure military bases count as US soil.
correct, as do embassies

Brujah 08-25-2008 04:16 PM
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In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”

The analysis, by Prof. Gabriel J. Chin, focused on a 1937 law that has been largely overlooked in the debate over Mr. McCain’s eligibility to be president. The law conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, and it made John McCain a citizen just before his first birthday. But the law came too late, Professor Chin argued, to make Mr. McCain a natural-born citizen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us.../11mccain.html

TheSenator 08-25-2008 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14662505)
You forgot that Republicans go by feelings in their guts. Its called truthiness.

Brujah 08-25-2008 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 14662521)
You forgot that Republicans go by feelings in their guts. Its called truthiness.
Don't forget Joe Lieberman and baddog (self-professed Democrat).

DatingGold 08-25-2008 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 14658921)
Hollywood might like him, but no way in hell the rest of the country would vote for him.
California did.

12clicks 08-25-2008 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14659904)
Well earned.

:laughing-

Especially from one of the creepiest looking fucks at the shows.
keep saying it, someone might believe you. :1orglaugh
I'm surprised you ever made it to a show

Barefootsies 08-25-2008 05:21 PM
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This message is hidden because 12clicks is on your ignore list.
:action-sm

12clicks 08-25-2008 05:27 PM
I've only known a few idiots who've actually put me on ignore. Most are clowns who I've rubbered their noses in their stupidity. You're certainly no exception.

Barefootsies 08-25-2008 05:30 PM
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This message is hidden because 12clicks is on your ignore list.
Who's the fool?

The fool or the fool who follows him.

:smilie_we

12clicks 08-25-2008 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14662798)
Who's the fool?

The fool or the fool who follows him.

:smilie_we
I'm thinking its the guy making idiot comments about "republicans" in this thread:thumbsup

Barefootsies 08-25-2008 05:50 PM
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This message is hidden because 12clicks is on your ignore list.
Wow. You are one thick headed piece of shit.

Keep posting homo.

:rasta

Young 08-25-2008 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 14662505)
I'm pretty sure there were some legislative measures introduced to cover up any holes in McCain's eligibility. I remember it being supported by all of the candidates in the Senate...

12clicks 08-25-2008 05:54 PM
you gotta love idiots who pretend they've got you on their ignore list.

dopey, I could be posting about anything with this post so be sure to ignore it so you don't give yourself away a second time.

silly kid.

baddog 08-25-2008 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 14662894)
Wow. You are one thick headed piece of shit.

Keep posting homo.

:rasta
As you keep responding to him it is pretty obvious you have no self-control. :2 cents:

Barefootsies 08-25-2008 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14662949)
As you keep responding to him it is pretty obvious you have no self-control. :2 cents:
That can be said for the one repeatedly posting before my replies. Pretty obvious.

Oh,... but I suppose that evaded your keen board prowess and 2 cents.

:winkwink:

12clicks 08-25-2008 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14662949)
As you keep responding to him it is pretty obvious you have no self-control. :2 cents:
he's one of these guys who, when posting out of his depth, tries to recover by incessantly posting nonsense to cover from his original stupidity.
I mean, the clown comes back with something about my looks.
laughable considering he hides behind a bad pair of sunglasses in his AWW pic. I mean seriously, was he going for cool when he posed for that? :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 08-25-2008 06:44 PM
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This message is hidden because 12clicks is on your ignore list.
:upsidedow

Snake Doctor 08-25-2008 06:52 PM
All of you idiots who think that this has any merit whatsoever are in need of serious help.

Do you really think that the Democratic National Committee hasn't looked into this? What about the Secretaries of State for all 50 states where Obama's name has been on the ballot as a candidate in a Presidential primary? Hillary Clinton's opposition research team? Hell, they found an essay he wrote in kindergarten, do you really think they would have missed this?

Here's something you need to start getting used to, you should say it out loud a few times a day.

PRESIDENT OBAMA.

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