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08-21-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

ok.. let me clarify. what i meant was that the MPAA and RIAA are huge and have very deep pockets and if they cant stop freeloaders, how can one expect to stop illegal porn tubes..

i agree with you that tubes pose a bigger threat to porn than mainstream.. it seems that the surfer is willing to take less quality for free rather than paying for high quality content..

We're not in disagreement at all.

This lawsuit idea is stupid, 1000% stupid.

MAYBE suing the tube site owners, or possibly their hosts, for not complying with DMCA requests is an option....assuming said owners and hosts are under the jurisdiction of U.S. courts and the DMCA.....but suing the end users is stupid.

Especially when we "know" that it's not the surfers uploading full episodes from porn sites so he can share with his buddies. It's the site owner doing it so he can draw traffic.

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08-21-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

ok.. let me clarify. what i meant was that the MPAA and RIAA are huge and have very deep pockets and if they cant stop freeloaders, how can one expect to stop illegal porn tubes..

i agree with you that tubes pose a bigger threat to porn than mainstream.. it seems that the surfer is willing to take less quality for free rather than paying for high quality content..

Show me one site where I can go get all the free music I want with out any effort like you can watch free porn on illegal, just one where I can make one click and get a mp3, not some torrent shit or special funking compressed file... But a place where the average surfer can go get free mp3's....
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08-21-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Snake Doctor

We're not in disagreement at all.

This lawsuit idea is stupid, 1000% stupid.

MAYBE suing the tube site owners, or possibly their hosts, for not complying with DMCA requests is an option....assuming said owners and hosts are under the jurisdiction of U.S. courts and the DMCA.....but suing the end users is stupid.

Especially when we "know" that it's not the surfers uploading full episodes from porn sites so he can share with his buddies. It's the site owner doing it so he can draw traffic.

You are stupid... 1000%
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08-21-2008, 08:24 PM

Well one thing that is funny is from what I understand and heard is many tubes are just buying content and have the rights to use it on the tube. SOme content providers do not require the use of content behind members area's only so the video content is chopped and locked down in the tube and then used to promote live cams and dating with the occasional sponsor whom does and WILL put in thier own content.

Look around and see the labels, there are a few content provider's just selling the shit like mad and in bulk while on the downlow and making a fortune doing it.

So in some cases it is the content providers themselves fucking everyone for a fast buck in bulk sales. THe world just got a whole lot stranger when you realise thats whats happening and it's happening more than the piracy itself.

We see it and just think Piracy...
Inside it's legit with some occasional removals and in some cases yeah out right theft and waiting for the Notice.

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08-21-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Well one thing that is funny is from what I understand and heard is many tubes are just buying content and have the rights to use it on the tube. SOme content providers do not require the use of content behind members area's only so the video content is chopped and locked down in the tube and then used to promote live cams and dating with the occasional sponsor whom does and WILL put in thier own content.

Look around and see the labels, there are a few content provider's just selling the shit like mad and in bulk while on the downlow and making a fortune doing it.

So in some cases it is the content providers themselves fucking everyone for a fast buck in bulk sales. THe world just got a whole lot stranger when you rewalise thats whats happening and it's happening more than the piracy itself.

We see it and just think Piracy...
Inside it's legit with some occasional removals and in some cases yeah out right theft and waiting for the Notice.

you are 100% right.. stolen content was used to test the model and once the model proved itself, a lot of owners started buying cheap content..

anyone can get good bulkdeals at $5 or less per scene now and with little or no restrictions on content use...
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#36

08-21-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

Show me one site where I can go get all the free music I want with out any effort like you can watch free porn on illegal, just one where I can make one click and get a mp3, not some torrent shit or special funking compressed file... But a place where the average surfer can go get free mp3's....

BUT the tube sites (to my knowledge) dont allow surfers to download full length movies in wmv or avi format?

You want to listen to music tho, go to youtube and put in the name of the song and a good chance it will come up.

Honestly tho, I think the only way to shut down illegal sites is program owners will have to go after them legally or the ISP/Host allowing them to run.

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#37

08-21-2008, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Snake Doctor

good question (as if surfers are the problem)

and once word gets out that porn sites are gathering information on thier visitors so they can be sued and/or reported to the feds for 2257 violations, our traffic is gonna go through the roof.

Who ever said that porn sites would gather info...?

Get the fuck out of this thread.. You have nothing to offer.. Not even a trolls worth..!
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#38

08-21-2008, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

you are 100% right.. stolen content was used to test the model and once the model proved itself, a lot of owners started buying cheap content..

anyone can get good bulkdeals at $5 or less per scene now and with little or no restrictions on content use...

Yup...
SO for you dumbasses out there crying about theft and calling the Tube the deathnail of the industry ya better think it through a little harder...
Blame the fucking Bulk content providers.

Theft Thats not the problem. It happens sure and happened alot not so long ago but now its different and this change occured practically over night.

This industry is full of idiots with the occasional smart guy ( 80:10 THats 80 dipshits to 10 smart ones ). SO now the secret is out of the bag go buy TEV's invest about 500 dolalrs in COntent then Buy a shit load of cheap google and Yahoo Search terms and you are set.

Ya just goto run against the bandwidth bill to make ends meet and seek a profit.

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#39

08-21-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by marketsmart

you are 100% right.. stolen content was used to test the model and once the model proved itself, a lot of owners started buying cheap content..

anyone can get good bulkdeals at $5 or less per scene now and with little or no restrictions on content use...

I have a plan for them folks too... ;)
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08-21-2008, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by bossku69

BUT the tube sites (to my knowledge) dont allow surfers to download full length movies in wmv or avi format?

You want to listen to music tho, go to youtube and put in the name of the song and a good chance it will come up.

Honestly tho, I think the only way to shut down illegal sites is program owners will have to go after them legally or the ISP/Host allowing them to run.

They do not need to download them nor do they want to download them... And if they do want to download them they can go to download.com and get a program to do it with... ;)

As far as videos on youtube... If a artist asks for there videos to be removed they will be and there will be a keyword blocker put in place to stop them from being uploaded in the future... Youtube is viral marketing for the music industry.. They make there money selling records, not videos, videos have always been a form of advertising to the music industry... You like the video, you buy the record.. So as long as they keep illegal mp3 sharing in check somewhat they are happy!
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08-21-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

Ya just goto run against the bandwidth bill to make ends meet and seek a profit.

Sounds good coming from a guy with no bandwidth bill
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08-21-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

Sounds good coming from a guy with no bandwidth bill

I have a kick ass host and it pays to know people

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#43

08-21-2008, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

I have a kick ass host and it pays to know people

So where are you in this fight we have here...?
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08-21-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

So where are you in this fight we have here...?

There is no fight jackass. Wanna know why? Because 99% of us don't give a fuck.

Good luck with your court cases.

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08-21-2008, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

So where are you in this fight we have here...?

Because no matter what design is not ever going to end
Infact the more tube sites that open the more work I have to do.
I do not see the death of the web page anytime soon.

On the flip side these sort of topics and controversy that destroy our industry interests me. The more minds on the matter the more this business evolves and changes.

Putting out idea's and concepts on problems makes me want to contribute

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