Bad tracert to Webair, what's up?

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  • Socks
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 8475

    #1

    Bad tracert to Webair, what's up?

    I'm trying to review this POV Porn site, and was just writing the owner to complain about the download speeds.. I thought I should attach a tracert so they can look it up, and I saw it was webair! Surprised really, I'm in Toronto, they host in NYC with you... 50k/s to max 85k/s over hours of downloading.. I have an 18mbit connection, fastest I can download is around 2,100k/s.

    Seems extra weird because the pings aren't timing out? Doubt it's even a webair problem, no drama, just wanna know what the fuck is uppppppp

    Tracing route to www.povporn.com [67.55.89.4]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms *.*.*.*
    3 7 ms 7 ms 9 ms vl-201.gw03.grnsbr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66
    .185.91.113]
    4 22 ms 7 ms 9 ms gi-1-1-0.gw01.grnsbr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
    66.185.81.49]
    5 9 ms 13 ms 9 ms so-4-2-2.gw02.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [
    66.185.81.42]
    6 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-1-0-0.gw02.mtnk.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66
    .185.80.42]
    7 31 ms 29 ms 27 ms pos-2-0.igw01.ny8th.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [6
    6.185.81.102]
    8 29 ms 27 ms 27 ms es0.nyc4.webair.net [198.32.118.59]
    9 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms csa080.nyc.webair.net [209.200.31.85]
    10 46 ms 45 ms 46 ms 67.55.89.4

    Trace complete.
  • TidalWave
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2007
    • 2706

    #2
    looks fine to me, the owner of that site may have an overloaded server or is maxing out his uplink on his server
    www.SwiftNode.com

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    • DateDoc
      Outside looking in.
      • Feb 2005
      • 14243

      #3
      seems ok here

      traceroute to povporn.com (67.55.89.4), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
      1 0.536 ms 0.286 ms 0.234 ms
      2 7.482 ms 19.009 ms 6.352 ms
      3 66-214-102-5.static.reno.nv.charter.com (66.214.102.5) 18.226 ms 15.505 ms 6.268 ms
      4 66-214-102-82.static.reno.nv.charter.com (66.214.102.82) 10.464 ms 7.806 ms 9.884 ms
      5 so-9-1.car1.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net (4.78.240.33) 12.585 ms 10.724 ms 11.925 ms
      6 ae-2-4.bar1.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net (4.69.133.150) 39.135 ms 11.166 ms 12.677 ms
      7 ae-0-11.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net (4.69.140.146) 63.855 ms 22.594 ms 25.148 ms
      8 ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.140.154) 13.846 ms 24.524 ms 18.262 ms
      9 ae-62-62.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.210) 23.967 ms 22.857 ms 17.001 ms
      10 ae-1-69.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net (4.68.18.16) 14.199 ms 18.020 ms 15.026 ms
      11 4.68.111.162 (4.68.111.162) 192.324 ms 76.133 ms 20.301 ms
      12 64.209.97.54 (64.209.97.54) 90.443 ms 89.169 ms 87.445 ms
      13 csa080.nyc.webair.net (209.200.31.85) 91.074 ms 88.647 ms 86.306 ms
      14 67.55.89.4 (67.55.89.4) 89.646 ms 86.271 ms 88.258 ms

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      • Socks
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 8475

        #4
        Yeah it does seem strange.. 50k/s is pretty brutal to NYC at 1am though! Maybe they don't have burstable

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        • Iron Fist
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2006
          • 23400

          #5
          Good luck with that!
          i like waffles

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          • Hotrow
            Registered User
            • Jun 2008
            • 12

            #6
            The whole thing is down now! Webair.com, the control panel, and a bunch of sites. Shit!

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            • Alky
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2002
              • 5651

              #7
              i don't really see anything wrong with the initial tracert unless i overlooked something.

              50-80k/sec isn't THAT bad, and it could be any number of reasons, not just webair.

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              • GigoloShawn
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2007
                • 700

                #8
                There's nothing wrong with your traceroute; unless your next hop denies ICMP, you may consider rebooting your modem, though.
                I no longer represent TrafficGigolos, please contact Justin or Rebecca with any issues.

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                • sumphatpimp
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 5235

                  #9
                  just because you can type "tracert" at the command line, doesn't mean you know what to do with the results.
                  you have a lot of reading to do.

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                  • brandonstills
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1964

                    #10
                    It's not a problem with the server it's webair's bandwidth. Their bandwidth sucks. I had a server briefly with them but canceled it right away when I was only able to upload and download at pathetic speeds.

                    Brandon Stills
                    Industry and programming veteran
                    [email protected] | skype: brandonstills | ICQ #495-171-318

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                    • Net Money
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 539

                      #11
                      Originally posted by brandonstills
                      It's not a problem with the server it's webair's bandwidth. Their bandwidth sucks. I had a server briefly with them but canceled it right away when I was only able to upload and download at pathetic speeds.

                      Many people have said that same thing.???

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                      • Wiredoctor
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 1632

                        #12
                        Originally posted by brandonstills
                        It's not a problem with the server it's webair's bandwidth. Their bandwidth sucks. I had a server briefly with them but canceled it right away when I was only able to upload and download at pathetic speeds.

                        Very Interresting theory.
                        Search For Everything In One Easy Portal
                        Big Juicy Nipples.com

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                        • Brad Mitchell
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 9813

                          #13
                          Couple of different things, folks..

                          First of all, 9x out of 10 it's the ISP because you are inherently oversubscribed somewhere between your street corner and the first real hop out on your ISPs network.

                          Second of all, traces in are mostly useless. You could have a 5ms trace or a 100ms trace but at the same time could open up a 100k connection on the 5ms trace or a 1000k connection on the 100ms trace. Trace routes are the lowest priority packet type in terms of how and when routers respond to those requests. Traces are really only useful when identifying a total loss in connectivity or severe packet loss.

                          Another more likely scenario is that its a problem with that server, perhaps its overloaded, rotating log files, having some other error... If the trace was done after 8pm EST it's absolutely not a peak time for surfing (like 11-2 EST or 4-7EST)

                          Lastly, Webair like every other large host is in the business of selling bandwidth. In as much as there might be some ways to "save money" buying wholesale bandwidth the larger motivation is to have good connectivity so that your clients get as much throughput as possible.

                          Webair, just like my company or any other reputable host, makes more money by selling as much bandwidth as humanly possible which means there is an inherent motivation to have ideal performance versus sub-par network performance for small savings.

                          Cheers,

                          Brad
                          President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                          71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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