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Old 08-16-2008, 01:30 PM   #1
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What America Needs

What this Country Needs
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I?m watching CNN going on about the ?veepstakes? as in who each nominee will choose as a running mate, used to it didn?t much matter but now it wont help a candidate much but it can damn sure hurt him.

I hear on the rdio Sean Hannity going apoplectic ovre the idea that McCain might actually choose a pro choice running mate. and Hannity is is carrying on about GOD.

and it hit me

That?s the fucking problem

What we need is a good clear thinking Atheist running for president. Someone who doesn?t have to carry around God?s baggage as righteousness.

Let us take a look at what religion has brought us over the years:

The Crusades.

The Inquisition.

Witch trials in Europe and America.

The Divine right of Kings (valid until killed by another Divinely-appointed King).

Missionaries destroying/converting smaller, ?heathen? religions and cultures.

Missionaries such as Mother Teresa.

The demonization of other religions, e.g. Christianity demonizing Pagans (?They?re devil-worshippers!?), the Romans demonizing Christians (?They?re atheists and cannibals!?).

Persecution of Heretics - e.g. Galileo for daring to suggest that the Earth orbits the Sun.

Children dying because their parents refused them medical treatment on religious grounds; relying instead on faith-healers and prayer.

Slavery, supposedly supported by scripture (?Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, just as you would obey Christ.?, St.Paul, Ephesians 6:5)

Holy wars - followers of different faiths (or even the same faith) killing each other in the name of their (benevolent, loving and merciful) gods.

The destruction of great works of art considered to be pornographic/blasphemous, and the persecution of the artists.

Censorship (often destructive) of speech, art, books, music, films, poetry, songs and, if possible, thought.

Persecution/punishment of blasphemers (Salman Rushdie still has a death sentence on him), and blasphemy laws in general.

The requirement of theism in order to stand for public office or to testify in court.

Serial killers believing they are doing the work of Satan (or sometimes Jesus).

Often-fatal exorcisms by priests believing they are destroying the work of Satan.

People suffering dreadful injury or death in the belief that their faith has made them invulnerable (e.g. people climbing into lion enclosures at zoos, with a Bible as protection).

Whole societies divided by minor differences in belief or doctrine, often resulting in violence.

Mass suicides of cult-members following a charismatic leader who believes the world is about to End

The attempted genocide of followers of a particular faith (e.g. the Jewish Holocaust, ?ethnic cleansing? in former Yugoslavia).

Blood sacrifices to appease the Gods, or to ensure a good harvest. (The Aztecs made daily human sacrifices to ensure that the Sun would rise. Or did they? )

The practice of ?female circumcision? (more accurately termed genital mutilation).

The discouragement of rational, critical thought (resulting in young-earth creationists, for example).

Uncontrolled population growth caused (or at least helped) by churches prohibiting birth-control and abortion. (You can also add : unwanted pregnancies, ill-fated forced marriages, and pregnant teenagers condemned to a life in mental institutions to avoid embarrassing their families.)

The spread of sexually transmitted diseases (e.g. AIDS) due to churches prohibiting the use of condoms.

Believers whipping, impaling, poisoning or crucifying themselves during religious festivals as a demonstration of their faith and piety.

Suicide bombers taught to believe that martyrs go straight to Paradise.

The indoctrination of children into the religion of their parents, giving them an arbitrary, life-long belief that is almost entirely dependent on their place of birth.

Women treated as second-class citizens or even slaves

Pentecostal snake-handlers

Persecution of homosexuals

Abuse of power, authority and trust by religious leaders (for financial gain or sexual abuse of followers and even children).

I?m thinking it makes more an more sense.

I?d vote for a man or woman who had the intellectual courage to stand up and say ?I am an atheist, God is not a factor in my decisions, humanity, liberty and and individualism are my guiding principles.?
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:39 PM   #2
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You're UNAMERICAN to even entertain that notion. I should report you to the proper authorities.

Our money say 'in GOD we trust'

Our Pledge of Allegiance say 'one nation under GOD'


Go back to where you came from
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:43 PM   #3
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55% of Americans would consider voting for a well-qualified gay presidential candidate. 45% would consider voting for a well-qualified atheist presidential candidate.

Not gonna happen.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:01 PM   #4
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You're UNAMERICAN to even entertain that notion. I should report you to the proper authorities.

Our Pledge of Allegiance say 'one nation under GOD'

Go back to where you came from
Actually that bullshit. those words were added to the pledge by congress as a way to keep God in the public school system, they did not appear in the original pledge of allegiance
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:05 PM   #5
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Actually that bullshit. those words were added to the pledge by congress as a way to keep God in the public school system, they did not appear in the original pledge of allegiance
Conversation between Bush Sr. and a journalist:

Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:06 PM   #6
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You're UNAMERICAN to even entertain that notion. I should report you to the proper authorities.

Our money say 'in GOD we trust'

Our Pledge of Allegiance say 'one nation under GOD'


Go back to where you came from
you make a great case for why religion sucks balls.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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Tonight there is this dance mccain and obama are going to do at some church in texas. Its fucking crazy,its like these people want to be lied to so bad. The most corrupt, dishonest ,selling your soul profession in the world is being a politician. Its such bullshit and the founding fathers didn't want all the god shit in politics. They all experienced a state religion and they didn't want it. In the treaty of Tripoli clearly states the US is not a christian nation and it was signed by President John Adams.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:44 PM   #8
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Religion sucks... Spirituality rules.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:45 PM   #9
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Conversation between Bush Sr. and a journalist:

Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.

That's pretty shocking even for the Bush family. You got a link?
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:48 PM   #10
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Conversation between Bush Sr. and a journalist:

Sherman: What will you do to win the votes of the Americans who are atheists?

Bush: I guess I'm pretty weak in the atheist community. Faith in God is important to me.

Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.

Sherman (somewhat taken aback): Do you support as a sound constitutional principle the separation of state and church?

Bush: Yes, I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists.
considering he ran the cia thats funny.
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Old 08-16-2008, 03:49 PM   #11
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A better retard to represent the whole retarded nation
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Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.
That's pretty fucked up.
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:17 PM   #13
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If there was a god. It's real obvious USA isn't on his "ToDo" list ...

we need ...

* More Car Commercials
* More Beer
* More Corn

yeah !
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If there was a god. It's real obvious USA isn't on his "ToDo" list ...

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You're UNAMERICAN to even entertain that notion. I should report you to the proper authorities.

Our money say 'in GOD we trust'

Our Pledge of Allegiance say 'one nation under GOD'


Go back to where you came from
Sheep!!!
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Old 08-16-2008, 04:58 PM   #18
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This is a great thread... Specually the posts where people are being sarcastic and others quote them taking them serious...




As for as the topic goes.. I agree!
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Old 08-16-2008, 05:40 PM   #19
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Religion gets blamed far too often for what amounts to a much bigger core problem. People are sheep?if you got rid of religion tomorrow, some other institution would take its place, people would herd into that new group, believe 100% what that group says, and hate people that disagree with the new dogma.

One only has to look at politics now and see how foaming at the mouth people have become to support Democrats or Republicans and if you?re not with them, you?re against them, and you?re evil. That's why nothing is getting done in Washington, too much partisan politics and not enough compromise.

The fact remains, weak people need something bigger than themselves to make them feel safe. Remove one safety blanket and they?d find something else to cling to?that?s why there?s so many ?ism?s in the world.

What America needs...heck, no, what the world needs...Alien Invasion. Just think about it, we'd all hate on the aliens, the world would be unified in destroying the little green men, and I'd get to finally make a paysite called: AlienWhore.com because you know there'd be some alien chick with like 6 breasts that would totally convert 1:50
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This is a great thread... Specually the posts where people are being sarcastic and others quote them taking them serious...




As for as the topic goes.. I agree!

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When will the lemmings come to realize that religion and the concept of a 'higher being' is perhaps nothing more than part of 'The Noble Lie'.
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