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Doctor Dre 08-16-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14612393)
I didn't point anybody to "their" site Sarah. I have no idea what you are talking about there. I merely said that the affiliate was a kick ass SEO guy and had managed to make his join link code for Claudia-Marie the number one result for a google search of her.

I'm totally at a loss as to why anybody would think I fucked anybody over by bragging on what a great job they did. Oh well, leave it to GFY :1orglaugh

And dynastoned...please gofuckyourself.

And no Due, I can't make the show up north. We will be one of the sponsors at The Atlanta Forum in Sept. which will be the next show I attend.

You're definitly not somebody I'd look forward doing business with...
you fail to understand the basic of SEO : keep your mouth shut.
Not to myself : never promote your sites

Sausage 08-16-2008 06:14 PM

Jesus ... I would be pissed if a sponsor pointed out my SEO handywork to GFY even if it was in a positive way.

Robbie 08-16-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 14618961)
You're definitly not somebody I'd look forward doing business with...
you fail to understand the basic of SEO : keep your mouth shut.
Not to myself : never promote your sites

It's a free country brother. I'll somehow get by and I'm sure you will too. Thanks for stopping by and telling me off. I'll ask around about you to make sure I haven't lost a potential business partner. I sure hope not...it's looking like there's not many people on here that have their shit together. Wait what am I saying? I already explained that I didn't tell any secrets. So you obviously don't know what you're talking about when you say "keep my mouth shut" About what? LOL! Go back to that nice webpage you have listed as your home page. I'll live without ya.

Robbie 08-16-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14618973)
Jesus ... I would be pissed if a sponsor pointed out my SEO handywork to GFY even if it was in a positive way.

Hey Sausage..read more carefully. I didn't point out ANYTHING that isn't out in the open. You googled my site his link came up. Once again...I didn't tell anybody anything about anybodies "Secrets" How fucking long have some of you been in this business anyway? And who are you people and what the fuck do you own or do? This is getting goddamn ridiculous. Fucking READ

Sausage 08-16-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14618994)
Hey Sausage..read more carefully. I didn't point out ANYTHING that isn't out in the open. You googled my site his link came up. Once again...I didn't tell anybody anything about anybodies "Secrets" How fucking long have some of you been in this business anyway? And who are you people and what the fuck do you own or do? This is getting goddamn ridiculous. Fucking READ

Avoiding your obvious anger management problem, a little free advice..

Those of us in the SEO game learnt a long time ago that you don't say a word about your listings, your keywords or how much a spot is making you. GFY is a really nasty playground and someone is just as likely to take the top few spots just to spite you and if you are lucky you might get the traffic back via them being an affiliate.

Even an affiliate link to your site can be researched and dismantled and if this guy makes a living off SEO like me then the last thing he wants is attention directed towards his methods. Best thing for you right now is to shut your mouth and hope this thread drops off the main page. :)

Robbie 08-16-2008 06:45 PM

Sausage....the best thing for you to do is read what I said more carefully. Since you are insinuating that you are an seo genius...go right ahead and be my guest. It DOES NOT matter to me. :1orglaugh I'll say it again...surfers don't want a substitute when they search for CM. Believe me...they will find her no matter what is on a search engine. We had 1,000 full paid members before her site was even on the first two pages of google under "claudia-marie" in any form.

The affiliate in question is BRAND new. His link popped up overnight. Couldn't really determine where it came from. He gave me his site, which I have not revealed. But it wasn't anything special at all. But he was found by someone on here to be spamming a lot of blogs...not that that would help him either. Nontheless I did not try to stop him in any way.

All I did was come on here and say Hey one of my affiliates is making bank by getting a google placement for my paysite. What fucking world are you guys from that you don't promote yourselves?

Whatever the guy was doing, google didn't like it when they figured it out. So he made good money for a few days. In the meantime I finally got my text off of my graphics and jumped to the number one spot overnight. Tell me what I did wrong? You can't because I didn't.

d-null 08-16-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14619038)
Avoiding your obvious anger management problem, a little free advice..

Those of us in the SEO game learnt a long time ago that you don't say a word about your listings, your keywords or how much a spot is making you. GFY is a really nasty playground and someone is just as likely to take the top few spots just to spite you and if you are lucky you might get the traffic back via them being an affiliate.

Even an affiliate link to your site can be researched and dismantled and if this guy makes a living off SEO like me then the last thing he wants is attention directed towards his methods. Best thing for you right now is to shut your mouth and hope this thread drops off the main page. :)


the guy was a spammer and the methods of spamming his affiliate link are methods that needs to be banned as an affiliate... he fluked out with his link in finding a vulnerable sponsor that had some problems with the way his domain was set up... the other sponsors that the guy is spamming should take notice too, this kind of affiliate does zero good for the sponsor

affiliate links are intended to be put up on affiliates own websites, not spammed on myspace or all over the net or anywhere, and an affiliate that does that should have their account closed and not get paid a dime, bottom line

if a guy had earned the top spot on google for the same keyword but for his OWN WEBSITE then that would be an accomplishment and that would deserve all the earnings he gets with no complaints from the sponsor (only praise), but this was not like that at all

nudecanada 08-16-2008 09:05 PM

Judging from Robbies replies wallowing on the past and how great he was, he thinks he is far more important than he really is.

Personally I would be embarassed bragging about how I have been around since 1998 in this industry, and STILL trying to be a success in it.

If you were all that, and as full of knowledge, success and experience as you always brag about, you would have been retired from this shithole of an industry eons ago. ;)

Robbie 08-16-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nudecanada (Post 14619434)
Judging from Robbies replies wallowing on the past and how great he was, he thinks he is far more important than he really is.

Personally I would be embarassed bragging about how I have been around since 1998 in this industry, and STILL trying to be a success in it.

If you were all that, and as full of knowledge, success and experience as you always brag about, you would have been retired from this shithole of an industry eons ago. ;)

Hey surfer....I LOVE this business. And I am not bragging about the past. I make more money NOW than I ever have and will make more in the future. You are giving me a good laugh though. And I've been "around" in the internet side since 1998. I've been in adult a lot longer. And I love it and never have any intention of being "retired" :)

rowan 08-17-2008 10:59 PM

bump

Tough call, do you can a spammers account and be accused of still benefiting from the residual traffic? There's no way you could ever get ALL of those links removed from such a wide variety of blogs.

The only way to properly close a spamming account is to not accept the traffic. Return a boilerplate "This account has been closed for spamming" message with NO links or any other monetisation.

d-null 08-17-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14622815)
bump

Tough call, do you can a spammers account and be accused of still benefiting from the residual traffic? There's no way you could ever get ALL of those links removed from such a wide variety of blogs.

The only way to properly close a spamming account is to not accept the traffic. Return a boilerplate "This account has been closed for spamming" message with NO links or any other monetisation.

why should he worry about residual traffic? the affiliate broke all reasonable industry standard tos by spamming his affiliate link, the affiliate deserves nothing, and it is likely there is no traffic anymore anyways, but even if there was there should be no problem with the sponsor getting that traffic

rowan 08-17-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 14622830)
why should he worry about residual traffic? the affiliate broke all reasonable industry standard tos by spamming his affiliate link, the affiliate deserves nothing, and it is likely there is no traffic anymore anyways, but even if there was there should be no problem with the sponsor getting that traffic

I'm not talking about the affiliate losing his $, I'm talking about Robbie making some from the efforts of the spammer. You cut off a spammer but continue to take his sales, then you're benefiting from that "method" of promotion. Note I'm not accusing him of anything, I have no idea what his stance on this is, I'm just saying that IMHO the only ethical thing to do is block any traffic to that affiliate link.

commonsense 08-17-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14622839)
I'm not talking about the affiliate losing his $, I'm talking about Robbie making some from the efforts of the spammer. You cut off a spammer but continue to take his sales, then you're benefiting from that "method" of promotion. Note I'm not accusing him of anything, I have no idea what his stance on this is, I'm just saying that IMHO the only ethical thing to do is block any traffic to that affiliate link.

As much as this entire thread is a train wreck, that's not a reasonable expectation. :2 cents:

d-null 08-17-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 14622839)
I'm not talking about the affiliate losing his $, I'm talking about Robbie making some from the efforts of the spammer. You cut off a spammer but continue to take his sales, then you're benefiting from that "method" of promotion. Note I'm not accusing him of anything, I have no idea what his stance on this is, I'm just saying that IMHO the only ethical thing to do is block any traffic to that affiliate link.

I guess this might come into play more if it was something like myspace spamming or the like, because in this case I really doubt there is any traffic from the links.... I didn't bother to look at the legit links he may have put out there (don't think there were very many) and he really only got traffic out of the google glitch that had his aff link on the serp for the join page, so now that the sponsor fixed some problems that traffic source for that affiliate is now gone

I think your nitpicking though worried about a sponsor getting a sale or two out of a spammer that they didn't know about at the time.... he would likely have gotten the sale anyways through a different traffic source in cases like this

Iron Fist 08-17-2008 11:59 PM

Anyone got cliffnotes? I don't have any time to read that entire long ass reply...

No wonder this guy doesn't have number one spot on the SERPs for this site... he's spending all his time replying and writing a book in the process! Good lord!

d-null 08-18-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14622902)
No wonder this guy doesn't have number one spot on the SERPs for this site... he's spending all his time replying and writing a book in the process! Good lord!

he has #1 now

Evil E 08-18-2008 12:37 AM

Yep, #1 here. I wanted to see the affiliate's site but can't find it.

HomerSimpson 08-18-2008 06:36 AM

A friend of mine somehow got to #1 position at Google for popular site with his ref code in it. He still didn't figure out how but who cares he made some very good cash while it lasted...


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