Barefootsies

Fucking WU/credit card bullshit.

This is ONE TIME where epass would actually be worth something. You have to go through the fucking gustopo to deal with this Choker/credit card fucking crap.

I swear, every time I take a break from traffic buying and need to demo something new. On Choker it's always some hang up. Either in verifying a new credit card, or at the WU end, or a three day delay in payments fucking posting.

Fuck your fraud. I should be able to fax you my I.D. and copy of my credit card, or a picture of me flipping you the bird and bypass this fucking bullshit.

WHO are other traffic brokers who do not have so much goddamn red tape?!!??!

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d-null

Traffic Holder is pretty smooth to deal with

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Barefootsies

Thanks mates.

Fucking A. I just wanna buy some bulk traffic, and looking for...

Tube
Fetish/Feet
Celebrity

I do not need to go through fucking Nazi Germany to pay for this shit. Much less the WU fees on top of this insane fucking hassle. It's ridiculous. Oh, and do not try and do it with FF as your browser on WU. Doesn't work.

Anyone with that much patience to deal with that fucking bullshit should get a medal.

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baddog

WU? I thought only scammers and Russians used WU.

Barefootsies

If you try and pay by credit card at Choker, it directs you to the Western Union website. You have to pay online through that gateway I guess.

So, under your logic, everyone paying by credit card is a scammer at Choker.

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baddog

Only if you twist it around I guess.

So enlighten me, when did WU start doing CC processing?

Barefootsies

Ask Choker.

It's the only site that I have seen that as an option where, if you are paying by credit card, you have to go through Western Union.

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rowan

"Due to an increase in Credit Card related fraud, we must take the necessary action to remove direct CC payments from our system.

Notice to verified CC users: We destroyed your records as soon as they were reviewed. We do not keep copies of your records.

For established buyers (who have been purchasing traffic for over 6 months) we have additional alternative credit card processing.

Please contact Choker to get more information."


Seems he's made a decision to protect his biz and ultimately provide his customers with the best value. It's annoying, but it's better than him closing up shop...

2012

... it's good traffic and he's got teh Tubes

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Barefootsies

True dat pimphand

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Traffic Holder is yet another option pimp

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Barefootsies

Some people have said they were really happy with those chappies.

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FYI: Russians use epass and webmoney

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Klen

Try to buy traffic mano to mano.I dont have traffic in those niches but i am sure other people have.

Barefootsies

Damn.

Well I am keeping my options open.

For celebrity sites/blogs/banner, and ad networks, as well as just buying bulk and sending it to galleries. But I need nichey stuff. More highly targeted for running some testing.

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nnweb

i guess he was getting a lot of chargebacks.

wu is shit to send money through. they always reject my card for "business reasons we cannot discuss due to security"

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Barefootsies

I can understand the chargebacks, but he should have a 'backdoor' for those who are legit. I'd fax my I.D., copy of card, whatever. Anything to forgo all that horse shit.

Yes. Whether browser, or some other bullshit, WU is difficult at best to send money online.

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Who the fuck uses WU in this business.

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Barefootsies

Choker.

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toe hee

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Iron Fist

Had the same problems as well, needed to send in a picture of my credit card before they would even accept a payment, and then strangely, it took another day for the payment to post in the account through another manual process.

That system is fucked and I stopped buying there a while ago. Too much god damned hassle just to buy a quick 50 bucks of traffic.

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aico

My bank, Wells Fargo, won't even allow me to make a credit card payment at WU. All WU transactions are blocked due to the huge amount of fraud.

aico

That's your bank blocking them... it's not due to security, it's due to them (WU) not wanting to tell you that your bank won't allow you to send money thru them.

Barefootsies

Agreed.

I was looking to buy a bit more than that in traffic volume, but for all the fucking hassle, it's just too much.

I like the system, and have always had a good experience with the traffic since figuring out how to target and filter years ago. But going through all that fucking bullshit, and then to have delays on top of that.

Yeah... simply too much hassle.

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Poor slacker

Barefootsies

Interesting tid bid.

You would think that if Choker is as big as claimed in traffic broker niche, that there would be a more realistic credit card paying option. As I said, I do not give a shit with faxing I.D. and copy of card, or whatever. Some hosts, like Webair, have asked for this in the past.

Whatever.

I am not worried about my end of the bargain. But the fucking annoying hassles just to do business is ridiculous.

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Bump for the best in the biz!

theharvman

Fuck WU!

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Domain Diva

Our office has purchased traffic from choker from almost the day he started.

Due to chargebacks ,fraud and the downfall of myvirtual card he has suffered a huge amount of lost $$$ over the years and simply has had to resort to what he thinks is best for his business.

Yes his system of payment is not the greatest but he has to do what best protects his operations ,something we would all do .

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I purchased traffic from traffic holder using epass. I had my traffic within a hour. The verification proccess is very simple and straight forward

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Barefootsies

Howard Cohen claims they are not crooks.

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Barefootsies

That is if you USE and TRUST epass toots. I don't. Same as many programs who stopped using them.

Do a search on GFY for epass. They rank right up there with Webair for popularity. Support, and otherwise..

epass, and fraud prevention in the same thread. Classic comedy. That's like mentioning epass, and paying your taxes.

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Its pretty strange I have used epass for over a year and never had a problem with them at all ..I have seen all the threads about them to , I must be one of the lucky ones I guess

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I used Paypal with traffic holder and got set up easy within a day, now things are real smooth to work with

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Barefootsies

They are one of those companies you either love, or hate.

There are fan clubs on both sides. Same for Webair.

Myself personally, I think epass is a fucking joke. When one man is their whole customer support department for adult (Michael O, Keyser Koze)...

then you have a problem.

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Barefootsies

Sweet.

Thanks for the feedback.

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halfpint

Yeah know where you are comming from... and each to ones own. Michael does seem to be the main point of contact when peeps have issues with epass here on GFY.

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Barefootsies

Thanks buddy.

You're a stand up fish n chips bird.

Always appreciate your input all the same.

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I like to twist things around... In particular the person on the right side of many of your photos.

Barefootsies

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baddog

Have a feeling it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Penny24Seven

yup had the same problem myself, i bitched and argued with them and my bank says fuck that we don't want your card being used on WU LOL, I left the block in place but the bank put it there

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Barefootsies

All the same to me chief.

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Barefootsies

Haha!

Maybe the bank thinks their wire fees are bullshit as well.

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Choker

Fuck my fraud? Most serious buyers have no problem sending a wire or a check. I have decided not to accept credit cards for many reasons. Do yourself a favor, look at the toplist of some of the other brokers. How can a TGP that is only 150k a day spare 100k a day to sell to others and still maintain his trades and traffic volume. Think about it.

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Barefootsies

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

What part didn't you understand chief? Did I rip on the quality of your traffic toots? No. How about you read.

I am serious about buying, and tried to deal with your payment options. Even going further in speeding up that process by offering to fax docs to forego that bullshit. Most would have a shit fit if you asked for that.

I do not have epass, and I am not going to wait a week for you to receive a check, and then eventually credit it. As others have posted in this thread, even AFTER going through your WU hassle. You still have to wait days for it to post.

Most serious businesses try and make it easy for their customers, and repeat business to keep doing business. The fact, and point of the thread, is that your credit card/WU is an impossible and difficult system at best.

Most people want to buy and get working, or testing their projects. Not mail out payments, wait for the mail, then a few more days for you to post. Or the hassle of either trying a credit card option, or trying to send money in person via WU.

I can't think of a single other online company over the years that has these issues for the most basic and common, credit card, transactions.... period.

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