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Old 08-18-2008, 05:12 PM   #1
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Best High-Def Movies In The Industry!!!

Hey guys, just curious who you think has the best high-def movies in the industry and why? I just saw a few trailers from Digital Playground and I thought they kicked major ass. Beautifully composed and lit. You can tell these guys really have pride in the product that they produce.
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Digital Playground - they are totally on another level.

Michael Ninn and Andrew Blake.
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But is the footage hot?
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nope - not to me it isn't.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:17 PM   #5
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But is the footage hot?
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In Adult i think DP is in the top. I am looking forward to their Pirates 2.

And Andrew Blake, but I think he shoots 35mm

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But is the footage hot?
It's hot for me...but then again I appreciate good lighting, good composition, good camera work, brilliant editing and of course....gorgeous female specimens
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We are far from the best, but I think our stuff kicks ass for not having an endless budget.
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In Adult i think DP is in the top. I am looking forward to their Pirates 2.

And Andrew Blake, but I think he shoots 35mm
Are they really making a 2? Interesting.
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It's hot for me...but then again I appreciate good lighting, good composition, good camera work, brilliant editing and of course....gorgeous female specimens
If the people fucking arent into it, then to me its boring. There is some stuff on cinemax shot well,composed well but watching paint dry would be hotter. I think for still photography all that stuff can make something very hot but for video if there isnt animal hotness. I dont care if orson wells directed it and Andrzej Sekula shot it and Thelma Schoonmaker edited it and it was shot on imax. Technically it can look great but if the fucking aint hot, its a waste of footage.
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Are they really making a 2? Interesting.
They are... and #1 is still selling well. No discounted prices, so they are milking it all the way to the bank.

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If the people fucking arent into it, then to me its boring. There is some stuff on cinemax shot well,composed well but watching paint dry would be hotter. I think for still photography all that stuff can make something very hot but for video if there isnt animal hotness. I dont care if orson wells directed it and Andrzej Sekula shot it and Thelma Schoonmaker edited it and it was shot on imax. Technically it can look great but if the fucking aint hot, its a waste of footage.
I'm just saying Tony - you can have two people who really have an attraction for each other and who really wanna fuck on film and if the light sucks, the composition sucks, the camera work sucks, the audio sucks then guess what? The scene sucks!

I can appreciate anyone who takes pride in their work. Who has taken the time to learn the things that they need to know in order to produce a product that they can be proud of and a product that sells very well. Digital Playground is a company like that...and I was simply asking if there were others.
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I'm just saying Tony - you can have two people who really have an attraction for each other and who really wanna fuck on film and if the light sucks, the composition sucks, the camera work sucks, the audio sucks then guess what? The scene sucks!

I can appreciate anyone who takes pride in their work. Who has taken the time to learn the things that they need to know in order to produce a product that they can be proud of and a product that sells very well. Digital Playground is a company like that...and I was simply asking if there were others.
IMO not with porn, now as you know I actually continue my studies to grow my abilities all the time but I can still realize. That a amateur couple going at it with a digital 8 camera on a tripod technically can suck but can be very very hot. These are just my humble thoughts OBi Wan
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IMO not with porn, now as you know I actually continue my studies to grow my abilities all the time but I can still realize. That a amateur couple going at it with a digital 8 camera on a tripod technically can suck but can be very very hot. These are just my humble thoughts OBi Wan
Well now that we all know what is *hot* to you....we can continue our discussion about who has the best HD movies in the industry and why
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Are you shooting in HD these days ?

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i don't know who shoots the best, or if this was shot in HD - but everytime i see this trailer i pity myself for being such a worthless clown ;)

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someone post a sample HD clip. i want to see what you guys are calling HD
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I'm just saying Tony - you can have two people who really have an attraction for each other and who really wanna fuck on film and if the light sucks, the composition sucks, the camera work sucks, the audio sucks then guess what? The scene sucks!
I think this is the one time I disagree with you.

Being that you are a perfectionist with your product, and that is a good thing, you need those elements to be there in order for it to be of interest to you. You are going to look for the right lighting, the right framing and listen for the audio. Nothing wrong with that at all, as that is what you like. And that is all that matters to you.

However, I do believe you are in a very small group. Though the group is large enough to keep many high quality sites and DVD companies in business. Though they are not the majority of porn consumers.

I do feel the large majority of porn consumers are simple meat eaters who get off on hot girls or real sex, no matter the format or production quality. Look at how popular the tube and amateur sites have become. It's insane. The content sucks in terms of production quality but there is something magical about a real couple fucking who are into each other, no silly scripts, nobody else in the room, no BS... just a dude and his chick, fucking. It doesn't matter if it's shot on a cell phone or in HD, real sex is real sex. Add to that a hot girl, then it really doesn't matter how it's shot.

I've said this many times, a guy with a hard cock in his hand wanting to cum doesn't care about production quality, audio, framing or lighting, unless of course he is in that very small group that you are a part of. Most guys just want to cum looking at hot girls and hot sex, damn how they can see it.

Webcams, voyeur content, exhibition content, party content, submitted content, amateur content... it's all booming for a reason. It's real.

Now of course there is a huge market for what you produce as well. You would not remain in business otherwise. But I don't think the general porn consumer fits into that group that demands perfection with his porn. Hot girls, yes. But the production quality of it all, I doubt it. He just wants to cum and get back to whatever it was he was doing before.

I love beautiful girls. Hell, I love beautiful ladyboys too! But I can not get off watching anything from Digital Playground unless it's Jacks POV. I've asked around and none of my friends can either. We can all appreciate how hot the girls are, but the sex is sooooooo lame and mechanical it's a turn off. Same for Vivid, Wicked or any of the others. Thank god for that little group that keeps them all in business, though I understand Vivid makes all their money from comps anyway. Not surprised.

This is not a slam on this type of content. It is indeed beautiful to look at and many guys do like it. I am a HUGE fan of your work as you know, I just prefer RedTube.com when it comes time to rub one off.
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I think this is the one time I disagree with you.

Being that you are a perfectionist with your product, and that is a good thing, you need those elements to be there in order for it to be of interest to you. You are going to look for the right lighting, the right framing and listen for the audio. Nothing wrong with that at all, as that is what you like. And that is all that matters to you.

However, I do believe you are in a very small group. Though the group is large enough to keep many high quality sites and DVD companies in business. Though they are not the majority of porn consumers.

I do feel the large majority of porn consumers are simple meat eaters who get off on hot girls or real sex, no matter the format or production quality. Look at how popular the tube and amateur sites have become. It's insane. The content sucks in terms of production quality but there is something magical about a real couple fucking who are into each other, no silly scripts, nobody else in the room, no BS... just a dude and his chick, fucking. It doesn't matter if it's shot on a cell phone or in HD, real sex is real sex. Add to that a hot girl, then it really doesn't matter how it's shot.

I've said this many times, a guy with a hard cock in his hand wanting to cum doesn't care about production quality, audio, framing or lighting, unless of course he is in that very small group that you are a part of. Most guys just want to cum looking at hot girls and hot sex, damn how they can see it.

Webcams, voyeur content, exhibition content, party content, submitted content, amateur content... it's all booming for a reason. It's real.

Now of course there is a huge market for what you produce as well. You would not remain in business otherwise. But I don't think the general porn consumer fits into that group that demands perfection with his porn. Hot girls, yes. But the production quality of it all, I doubt it. He just wants to cum and get back to whatever it was he was doing before.

I love beautiful girls. Hell, I love beautiful ladyboys too! But I can not get off watching anything from Digital Playground unless it's Jacks POV. I've asked around and none of my friends can either. We can all appreciate how hot the girls are, but the sex is sooooooo lame and mechanical it's a turn off. Same for Vivid, Wicked or any of the others. Thank god for that little group that keeps them all in business, though I understand Vivid makes all their money from comps anyway. Not surprised.

This is not a slam on this type of content. It is indeed beautiful to look at and many guys do like it. I am a HUGE fan of your work as you know, I just prefer RedTube.com when it comes time to rub one off.
I know this. If I have the choice between a super clean video that looks better or a low light crappy smaller vid Ill pic the clean crisp video everytime. Im a member on videobox and I skip over the movies that are not up to quality and pick one that is.
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There's a lot of great shooters and companies out there filming high def video to varying degrees of effectiveness. A lot of elements come together to make a good looking video starting with the lighting (the most important element) to the makeup to the attractiveness of the models themselves and location down to the encoding in post-production. I have gotten good feedback on my 1280 x 720 vids like the sample on my site below. (see sig)
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are we talking dvd/video or web based content? there is still a difference right?
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The action is very important...hot girls and action....

But if you can see it well shot it better? And if the sound was crystal clear and like they were in the room...better...? And if you could almost touch the little drops of sweat on the girl...better?

Also as makers of product ...

if people shoot on their own cameras and upload it ...what our the film makers needed for if they can't supply hot action shot well....

HD is just one factor in the quality of a video... At the moment it is impossible to supply full HD on the internet, but the better a video is shot the better the end result.. but there are many other factors... focus, exposure, lighting (not just switching a light on ! ) lens, f stop, colour tempreture, subject matter, subject contrast, lighting contrast, microphone and placement and then encoding etc..

Our last few films have been shot on HD and we can see a big improvement on DVD but on the internet it is only one factor in the perception of quality... Good lighting and exposure are the biggest factor effecting viewer quality...

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Perfect Gonzo has some nice stuff.

If you take a normal members area with high quality movies, lets say 640x480 and you introduce real HD movies, 99% of your members won't download even one scene.

Not saying programs/sites dedicated to HD don't do well - I just don't think your average porn buyers gives a shit if the movie is HD, just give them good quality that doesn't take hours to download.

HD sites do not retain better, they for sure do not convert better because they are HD - so what the hell is the point of creating something that costs you more bw to up, members to download, and massive HD space.

Ask your members what sizes/bit rates they like/want and you will be shocked at the answers they give.
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HD sites do not retain better, they for sure do not convert better because they are HD - so what the hell is the point of creating something that costs you more bw to up, members to download, and massive HD space.

Ask your members what sizes/bit rates they like/want and you will be shocked at the answers they give.

On our site members download the higher bit rates in racio 3:1 of the low bit rates...

Why shoot HD, because you will be able to exploit it longer.... as the bandwith goes up you can keep re encoding it until you send it out as full HD ...in say 20 years....

Your phone vids gona look pretty sad by then....
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On our site members download the higher bit rates in racio 3:1 of the low bit rates...

Why shoot HD, because you will be able to exploit it longer.... as the bandwith goes up you can keep re encoding it until you send it out as full HD ...in say 20 years....

Your phone vids gona look pretty sad by then....
Of course members download a higher bitrates over lower. The question is, do they download the HD bit rate over the standard high quality movie, if you offer both.

A few things, If I'm still releasing the same sets in 20 years, in porn in 20 years, let alone shooting porn in 20 years, just shoot me dead. Cell phone porn is lame today and it will be lamer in 20 years. And any movie made today, in HD or not, will be useless in 20 years.

I can't speak for every country, but in America the Teloc's are pushing for tiered services through he net neutrality act. They seem to think we can run out of bandwidth - being so they are trying to what several other countries already do, charge you for every bit of your net use.

This is the direction the net is going in, not more bw for kick ass HD movies.
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yes they prefer the higher quality in the racio of three to one (maybe they don't have a good connection and have to be content with the lower quality.

I cannot help you in your request to be shot... but the higher the value of the product you make will make it more sellable when and if you leave the industry....
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