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just a punk 08-15-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614097)
Way to go heroes!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Won't even comment on that just LOL

just a punk 08-15-2008 12:39 PM

oops double post

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614139)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Won't even comment on that just LOL

You expect us to believe that those guys launched an unprovoked attacked against the russian army?

I say russian hired goons AKA the Russian separatist militias in south ossetia launched the attack first with putins thumbs up so that big bad russian could come in and swing its foul, putrid cock around.

But that couldn't be the case because the unbiased russian media didn't say so right?

Antonio 08-15-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614157)
You expect us to believe that those guys launched an unprovoked attacked against the russian army?

I say russian hired goons AKA the Russian separatist militias in south ossetia launched the attack first with putins thumbs up so that big bad russian could come in and swing its foul, putrid cock around.

But that couldn't be the case because the unbiased russian media didn't say so right?

actually Georgia launched the attack with Bushe's thumbs up and the Russians kicked their tight Georgian asses in 5 days

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 14614337)
actually Georgia launched the attack with Bushe's thumbs up and the Russians kicked their tight Georgian asses in 5 days

Got proof of that? I highly doubt you do. Because, that doesn't even make sense to me. No way would we want to provoke a war with russian right now. I think it's laughable to even think we would want to.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 14614337)
actually Georgia launched the attack with Bushe's thumbs up and the Russians kicked their tight Georgian asses in 5 days

Which makes more sense?. the russians, who's military isn't tied up in a bunch of major military conlflicts and had the equipment staged for this invasion to start this conflict.. knowing that there wouldn't be much of a response by georgias allies to start this


Or america to start it? who's military is pretty damn tied up with iraq afghanistan and possible attacks on iran to give the thumbs up to an unprepared and COMPLETELY undermatched georgian army to attack?

Which makes more sense to you?

directfiesta 08-15-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 14614337)
actually Georgia launched the attack with Bushe's thumbs up and the Russians kicked their tight Georgian asses in 5 days

A bit like Saddam against Kuwait ... Saddam was under the impression ( given by a USA envoy ) that he had a green light to invade .... Maybe he did, but it turned to red pretty fast.

spacedog 08-15-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614342)
Got proof of that? I highly doubt you do. Because, that doesn't even make sense to me. No way would we want to provoke a war with russian right now. I think it's laughable to even think we would want to.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

For three weeks beginning on July 15th, 1650 US TROOPS trained and prepared the Georgians for their attack. Also provided to Georgia from Israel were 1000+ advisors, intel and equipment. Right after the US troops left is when Georgia began it's attacks on South Ossettia.

No way the US would want to provoke Russia? Think about that again? Perhaps they want Russia's hands tied when the US and Israel attack Iran. Perhaps this whole shebang was to divert Russia's attention away from Iran while the US naval blockade continues to position itself.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 14614381)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

For three weeks beginning on July 15th, 1650 US TROOPS trained and prepared the Georgians for their attack. Also provided to Georgia from Israel were 1000+ advisors, intel and equipment. Right after the US troops left is when Georgia began it's attacks on South Ossettia.

If every time america trained a countrys army's motive was to attack it's neighbors.. then this entire world would have been at war for decades now.

now prove we trained them specifically to attack russia. :winkwink:

Makes no god damn sense.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:33 PM

the actions of the georgian president said to me that they were the actions of a man who was afraid for his life and the life of his country.. they didn't seem to be the actions of a man who thought he was a bad ass that could steamroll over the russian army because he was backed by the USA.

This whole georgia attacked first croc isn't adding up to me.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 14614381)
No way the US would want to provoke Russia? Think about that again? Perhaps they want Russia's hands tied when the US and Israel attack Iran. Perhaps this whole shebang was to divert Russia's attention away from Iran while the US naval blockade continues to position itself.

Why ddint the states have a massive military build up to back up the georgians since we were backing them up? The russian forces sure as hell were ready to go, weren't they?:winkwink:

just a punk 08-15-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614342)
Got proof of that?

Visit your doctor ASAP man.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614438)
Visit your doctor ASAP man.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Phil 08-15-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614157)
You expect us to believe that those guys launched an unprovoked attacked against the russian army?

I say russian hired goons AKA the Russian separatist militias in south ossetia launched the attack first with putins thumbs up so that big bad russian could come in and swing its foul, putrid cock around.

But that couldn't be the case because the unbiased russian media didn't say so right?

you can say what ever you want but it won't make any difference. I say dude on you avatar is home-pedo with fetish for vietnamiese jungle monkeys.. doesn't make him one?

just a punk 08-15-2008 01:39 PM

Malicious Biz, having an idiot on your avatar subconsciously makes the ppl here think that you are an idiot too. Remove it please and your retarder comments will look a bit more serious. This your post made my day man: "Got proof of that? I highly doubt you do." :1orglaugh

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614438)
Visit your doctor ASAP man.

Oh, so you have proof the US green lighted this? let's see it then.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14614448)
you can say what ever you want but it won't make any difference.

Indeed:winkwink:

just a punk 08-15-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14614448)
I say dude on you avatar is home-pedo with fetish for vietnamiese jungle monkeys

Ah, you have noticed that too? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

directfiesta 08-15-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614425)
Why ddint the states have a massive military build up to back up the georgians since we were backing them up?

Won't be the first time the USA let their allies get ass-raped ...

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14614467)
Won't be the first time the USA let their allies get ass-raped ...

Naw of Course not. But I really don't feel we green lighted this one. All the info that I've seen so far tells me otherwise.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614459)
Ah, you have noticed that too? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Have you noticed my tongue in cheek, satrical sense of humor yet also? of course not.

just a punk 08-15-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14614467)
Won't be the first time the USA let their allies get ass-raped ...

BDSM lovers? :disgust

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614489)
BDSM lovers? :disgust

Moar liek anal luvrz.

But you knew that since you're obviously a man of wit.

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614389)
If every time america trained a countrys army's motive was to attack it's neighbors.. then this entire world would have been at war for decades now.

now prove we trained them specifically to attack russia. :winkwink:

Makes no god damn sense.




ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!


thats like MORE advisors than the ENTIRE Georgia military!!!! LOL

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614516)
thats like MORE advisors than the ENTIRE Georgia military!!!! LOL

HAHA! really..

Isradude 08-15-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614425)
Why ddint the states have a massive military build up to back up the georgians since we were backing them up? The russian forces sure as hell were ready to go, weren't they?:winkwink:

the georgian army started this war. they moved armor and artillery forces to south Ostya .... they are really naive if they thought the the Russians will not react to this provocation.

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 01:56 PM

Georgian Military: 17,000

+ thousands fo US advisors.....

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 02:03 PM

The US Marines have been TRAINING the Georgian Military for FOUR (4) years!!! That's been like STANDARD operating procedure for the US of its ALLIES since like the US has had Allies.

More on the MASSIVE Georgia Militry

Forces: 27,000
Army: 17,000
Tanks: 80
APC: 150
Artillary: 160 (+/-)

Now, what I don't get, is how if these dudes were trained for 4 years by US Marines.. hwo they fell apart so fast! must be their equipment is shit and the dudes knew they were gonna die and decided to back the fuck up and live to tell about it.

It would only take about 17,000 well equiped Marines to take on whatever Russia could throw at them. SEMPER FI!

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Isradude (Post 14614525)
the georgian army started this war. they moved armor and artillery forces to south Ostya .... they are really naive if they thought the the Russians will not react to this provocation.

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/276829/36/

Gee I wonder why, Of course the hired goons played no role. :eek7

The georgian response to these attacks may have been out of line. But I do believe that they were attacked first.. maybe not a major attack.. but attacked first and drawn into this none the less.

Isradude 08-15-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614557)

The georgian response to these attacks may have been out of line. But I do believe that they were attacked first.. maybe not a major attack.. but attacked first and drawn into this none the less.

you are simply wrong ............ i feel for the georgians, but they definitely brought this on themselves ... they started this war ..... their president is not the smartest guy, and he is not popular at all in his own country mostly because since he was elected he has been provoking the Russians.

just a punk 08-15-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614556)
Forces: 27,000
Army: 17,000
Tanks: 80
APC: 150
Artillary: 160 (+/-)

Hmm... Check this out: http://translate.google.com/translat...F8&sl=ru&tl=en

I know that wikipedia is not a best place to get the info (so I'll try to find more reliable source), but however: http://translate.google.com/translat...F8&sl=ru&tl=en

# T-72-SIM-1 - 210
# T-55 AM - 35
# BMP-1 - 45
# БМП-2 - 74 BMP-2 - 74
# БТР-80 - 50 BTR-80 - 50
# МТЛБ -20 MTLB -20
# БРДМ-2 ? 5 BRDM-2 - 5

etc..

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 02:16 PM

lol - hooray the MORALLY correct Russian Army...


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1563317.ece


http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...in_555585a.jpg

just a punk 08-15-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614617)
lol - hooray the MORALLY correct Russian Army...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1563317.ece

There are thieves everywhere. Russian army is not an exclusion. But what he will do with Georgian money?

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Isradude (Post 14614592)
you are simply wrong ............ i feel for the georgians, but they definitely brought this on themselves ... they started this war ..... their president is not the smartest guy, and he is not popular at all in his own country mostly because since he was elected he has been provoking the Russians.

the russian backed separatist militias have played no role then? I think a closer look should be taken at that angle for sure. I would bet they have a played very integral role in all of this. They have most likely been used to instigate this conflict.

just a punk 08-15-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614652)
the russian backed separatist militias have played no role then? I think a closer look should be taken at that angle for sure. I would bet they have a played very integral role in all of this. They have most likely been used to instigate this conflict.

Yes of course they have... since 1922 when Soviets have forcedly joined South Ossetia to Georgia :winkwink:

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614662)
Yes of course they have... since 1922 when Soviets have forcedly joined South Ossetia to Georgia :winkwink:

Thank you for helping me prop up my theory:thumbsup

just a punk 08-15-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614556)
The US Marines have been TRAINING the Georgian Military for FOUR (4) years!!! That's been like STANDARD operating procedure for the US of its ALLIES since like the US has had Allies.

More on the MASSIVE Georgia Militry

Forces: 27,000
Army: 17,000
Tanks: 80
APC: 150
Artillary: 160 (+/-)

There is one more thing why I guess it's an outdated info because hust yesterday Russian army has took out about 100 units (tanks and IFV's) from Georgian military base in Gori.

just a punk 08-15-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614677)
Thank you for helping me prop up my theory:thumbsup

This is not a theory. This is a history :2 cents:

I can tell you one more secret BTW: Ossetia has joined tsarist Russia PRIOR to Georgia.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614691)
This is not a theory. This is a history :2 cents:

LOL, that's flattering but no, I'm only putting forth a theory here. LMFAO...

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 02:41 PM

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...-8&sa=N&tab=wn

Some interesting reading if anyone is interested

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 02:54 PM

Its simple... Russia is after the OIL. They want to control the pipeline! Its that simple.
ANY argument to the contrary is futile and propaganda.

Russia supported and encouraged the seperatists while they built up forces to retaliate and invade. If they were simply responding - they would have stopped at the border. They are rolling tanks and military convoys all over Georgia.

Its kinda like sending your little sister to start shit with the kid next door, and then when he does something back, you step out from behind the bushes with all your buddies and kick his ass and take his lunch money.

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 02:58 PM

Oil/Gas pipelines that is.

just a punk 08-15-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614774)
Its simple... Russia is after the OIL. They want to control the pipeline!

What??? Again??? There is no pipeline in South Ossetia. I'll open you a top secret: Russia won't invade Georgia. The army just did it job: protected Russian citizens in South Ossetia and will pull back. Isn't that simple to understand?

Do you know how many pipes Russia has? Why should it need to control one more pipe which is not belong to it? Here is another top secret: The USA there is after pipe. Furthermore, the USE moves to Iran and (what a surprise?) for its oil and gas. Should I say something about Iraq or you really believe the the USA came there for 3D pictures of WMD's? :1orglaugh Try to find out which exactly companies got a license on digging the Iraqi oil :winkwink:

just a punk 08-15-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz (Post 14614705)
LOL, that's flattering but no, I'm only putting forth a theory here. LMFAO...

Are you a staunch theoretic? :winkwink:

Phil 08-15-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614617)


Jesus, remember when US got in to baghdad how many of them got busted brining antique stuff from there. Didn't one dude get busted in airport with priceless Persian book? Come on.. this becoming so lame.

Phil 08-15-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614774)
Its simple... Russia is after the OIL. They want to control the pipeline! Its that simple.
ANY argument to the contrary is futile and propaganda.

Russia supported and encouraged the seperatists while they built up forces to retaliate and invade. If they were simply responding - they would have stopped at the border. They are rolling tanks and military convoys all over Georgia.

Its kinda like sending your little sister to start shit with the kid next door, and then when he does something back, you step out from behind the bushes with all your buddies and kick his ass and take his lunch money.


there aren't any pipelines going through Ossetia fool..
Epic fail Picture goes here..

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614821)
What??? Again??? There is no pipeline in South Ossetia. I'll open you a top secret: Russia won't invade Georgia. The army just did it job: protected Russian citizens in South Ossetia and will pull back. Isn't that simple to understand?

Headline: Russian convoy moves deeper inside Georgia: witness
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLF9676120080815?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews& rpc=22&sp=true

Russia invades Georgia while the West watches. How did it come to this?
World InactionRussia invades Georgia while the West watches. How did it come to this?


Fighting with Russia spreads to cities across Georgia
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...tia/index.html



WHAT IS THE TOP SECRET YOU WILL OPEN FOR ME? RUSSIA WON'T INVADE GEORGIA???

When is the last time you checked the news??? If you need links to more reports of how Russia has NOT invaded Georgia, let me know, I'll be happy to help.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14614837)
Are you a staunch theoretic? :winkwink:

Are you an English professor?:winkwink:

WhiplashDug 08-15-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14614857)
there aren't any pipelines going through Ossetia fool..
Epic fail Picture goes here..

Who said they were in Ossetia??? Russia invaded Georgia! TANKS in the Georgia CAPITAL CITY!!!!!

Whats so hard for you to understand? See post above.

Malicious Biz 08-15-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiplashDug (Post 14614774)
Its simple... Russia is after the OIL. They want to control the pipeline! Its that simple.

I disagree with ya there.. russian has plenty of oil and pipelines. This seems to be more of 'HEY LOOK AT US WORLD, WE'VE GROWN OUR BIG FAT RED COCK BACK! WATCH US SWING IT AROUND FOR A WHILE!" deal..

They aren't after georgia's little pipeline, they are after some respect. But I think they aren't going to get it, and this behavior on their part is only going to hurt them in the long run.

You think the west is going to continue pumping investment dollars into their economy if they keep acting like the cold war bullies they used to be?

No way will people be eager to put their money into a country that seems to be hell bent on destabilizing the region trying to return themselves "to their former glory"... what ever that means.


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