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Old 08-13-2008, 09:13 PM   #1
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Stop sending traffic to Adult Friend Finder now !!

Hello , !! I win more then 1 Million dollars on adult friend finder, this was a good program and I know them a lot !!!

According to the admin of AFF if you send around 1100 raw member you will have around 130 Free member aprouved, So where are the 970 other member that you never know about ???.. where are the 970 Free member who, if you have a good quality traffic, should gave 97 paying member ??????

So I dont tell before for some particular reason... but this time .. because they told me their dont want to resolve the problem I said GFY webmaster will...

You know ... when customer join AFF, they go to the join form who ask several question ,.. birthday ,.. man looking for women, etc.. ,but their dont ask the credit card number.. their prefer to take the email of the people, then their send a user name and a password to that email and then if the guy log in , the pending is convert to a free member... (short process story) BUT WE HAVE A BIG BIG BIG PROBLEM HERE.. Adult friend finder is ban from 90% of hotmail server. Of course you will receive the cupid . but I talk about the sign-up process before been able to receive a cupid.. who is on another technologie anyways...

So most of the people never receive their password .. most people cannot login .. most of people cannot pay...

So I phone them !! I look my self into the admin !! I was suprise when 97 Free member have been aprouved over 600 raw member.. over 500 people ...have not been able to log in ... When on my second account I saw 358 Free member aprouved but over 1100 raw member ....I said to my self .. houston we have a problem...

So that is crazy ... BUT LISTEN THIS ....... THEY DONT FUCKING CARE ABOUT THIS SITUATION .... their said to me it is the problem of Microsoft.... they ban us we can't do notting... Fuck that shit !!! you send around 70 000 million email per week into Microsoft email sytems .. you make your busenis on the back of Microsoft !! It's normal they ban you.. Just change your join form and install a credit card process right after the birthday and other personal question into the join form.

So now try to find why they never put the CC form into the join form .... when you will know AFF will be in big trouble.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:20 PM   #2
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:21 PM   #3
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:22 PM   #4
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Okay I know what your saying is uber important.... but red on grey? COME ON!
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:24 PM   #5
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:25 PM   #6
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:51 PM   #7
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:58 PM   #8
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Hello , !! I win more then 1 Million dollars on adult friend finder, this was a good program and I know them a lot !!!
made 1 billion yesterday in 2 hours with them..
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:01 PM   #9
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:03 PM   #10
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:06 PM   #11
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nope I'm going to continue to send them traffic for a year or more to come
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:07 PM   #12
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"their prefer to take the email of the people"

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Old 08-13-2008, 10:21 PM   #13
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cfoxs good for you for doing your best at writing in english, ignore the critics.... but some of what you are saying is a little hard to comprehend


write us more on this comment you made please: "So now try to find why they never put the CC form into the join form .... when you will know AFF will be in big trouble." ??

is there some profound concept that you have discovered about AFF and the mystery of why they don't put the CC form into the join form??
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:31 PM   #15
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:34 PM   #16
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so you are saying that only 90 something of the 600 people that signed up were able to get their password to sign into their account. ya that sucks big time. so the other 500 may just type in adult friend finder.com and sign up again using another email adddress and you will never make a cent from it?
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:36 PM   #17
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Getting and staying unblocked with Hotmail, Yahoo, etc... is a tiring process, but ultimately for a company like AFF it's worth it to have a dedicated employee to doing so. They are losing a LOT of potential money.

Personally, I know all about this as I spent at least 1 hour a day with IwantU staying on top of our mail, monitoring which inboxes we hit and which had changed to bulk or blocked, contacting (luckily I have contacts who have contacts who work at Hotmail, etc...), implementing new procedures such as Sender-ID, DKIM, bounced mail management, etc...at the end of my time there we were usually hitting about 85-90% of inboxes of the major ISPs, that missing % being Verizon (whose admin doesn't have a clue what he's doing) and Comcast (who are stubborn as hell).

As an affiliate, you have a very valid point cfoxs30, they should be doing everything in their power to make themselves and their affiliates more money
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:55 PM   #18
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good points but nobody that has been sending traffic to AFF for a while will stop doins so, especially now when every "normal" sponsor is dead

right now it's dating and cams, the rest is a waste of time
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:57 PM   #19
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good points but nobody that has been sending traffic to AFF for a while will stop doins so, especially now when every "normal" sponsor is dead

right now it's dating and cams, the rest is a waste of time
LOL... yeah, I mean what else are you gonna push on a fucking tubesite, right..
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to answer your question kind of simply

"why dont they ask for cc on the join form"

because thats not how most dating sites work, if they knew they had to pay they would not look at the site most likely. The way it works is surfer see's ad , see's "FREE REGISTRATION" , registers finds some fake hotties in his area , then finds out he has to pay to msg them .


it seems though like the problem has a very easy solution.

People that signup for the site using a hotmail ( or other often blocked email co ) email should be redirected straight to a credit card join form . easy shmeazie , everyone wins.
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Stupid people good people

I can read that real webmaster know what I am talking about .. other just said try to write better your letter... Anyways the point is .. when you are supose to have 9 time more free member its time to said hey AFF fix the bug.

So I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY THIS ..

If you saw in you account 40 Free member.. You should have over 300 Free member... Called by AFF raw member. Secondely every one who is on pct MAKE the wrong choice. (this is the shaving option)

I will stop here .. Its right a webmaster said: after the email the surfer should be redirected to a cc form !! THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.. everybody will win 6 time more money....
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I can read that real webmaster know what I am talking about .. other just said try to write better your letter... Anyways the point is .. when you are supose to have 9 time more free member its time to said hey AFF fix the bug.

So I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY THIS ..

If you saw in you account 40 Free member.. You should have over 300 Free member... Called by AFF raw member. Secondely every one who is on pct MAKE the wrong choice. (this is the shaving option)

I will stop here .. Its right a webmaster said: after the email the surfer should be redirected to a cc form !! THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.. everybody will win 6 time more money....
I disagree about the part about forcing them to enter a CC right away. You are turning away a lot of potential sales.

For example, Mr.X sees a dating site and it charges him upfront (or at least wants his CC), he is hesitant and goes off to find another site.

Now situation 2 is how just about all dating sites are: Mr.X finds the site, sees he can join for free and fills out a profile. He gets teased on the site, maybe by finding girls he'd like to hook up with or maybe form the webcam/chat features, or messages. He decides "ok, I'll give it a shot" and pays the money.

In dating the key to getting members to pay is TO TEASE THEM.
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AFF works because of the chance to surf for free... In the past, I've been a member several times and paid for additional features
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I disagree about the part about forcing them to enter a CC right away. You are turning away a lot of potential sales.

For example, Mr.X sees a dating site and it charges him upfront (or at least wants his CC), he is hesitant and goes off to find another site.

Now situation 2 is how just about all dating sites are: Mr.X finds the site, sees he can join for free and fills out a profile. He gets teased on the site, maybe by finding girls he'd like to hook up with or maybe form the webcam/chat features, or messages. He decides "ok, I'll give it a shot" and pays the money.

In dating the key to getting members to pay is TO TEASE THEM.

You are right about that Mr. X.. But if he cannot get to the free members area (because he never received a password to his email), he is lost surfer anyway, and definitely would not buy anything.

All the loosers making fun about the cfoxs30 language.. Be a normal guys and not morrons, at least guy tries to write in your native language, i bet it's not first or even 2nd language for him.

By the way, some time ago i have tried to signup with a fling free membership, i was unable to get the welcome email with activation links, so i think they are loosing lot's of potential free (and of course paid) members too..
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Or at least prompt the surfer for a different email as they will never become a customer with that one if they can't get in.
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I can read that real webmaster know what I am talking about .. other just said try to write better your letter... Anyways the point is .. when you are supose to have 9 time more free member its time to said hey AFF fix the bug.

So I WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY THIS ..

If you saw in you account 40 Free member.. You should have over 300 Free member... Called by AFF raw member.
There is no raw members, only raw hits.

Believe it or not most surfers don't register, even for free, most of them just... surf.
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cfoxs30 please contact me I think you are confused about something. The allegation that we profit from not allowing a member to join is ludicrous. As an affiliate your interests are aligned with ours. If something is harming you from converting hundreds of members a day then it is also harming us (only for us it's not just hundreds of members a day). Needless to say the issue would be resolved.
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cfoxs30 please contact me I think you are confused about something. The allegation that we profit from not allowing a member to join is ludicrous. As an affiliate your interests are aligned with ours. If something is harming you from converting hundreds of members a day then it is also harming us (only for us it's not just hundreds of members a day). Needless to say the issue would be resolved.
Do you still allow your ads to be shown next to CP results in illegal download sites (as was proven you do) ?

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Its right a webmaster said: after the email the surfer should be redirected to a cc form !! THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.. everybody will win 6 time more money....
thats simply not true. I can guarantee if you added the cc form onto the registration form your signups would drop like a stone.

What i suggested was adding the cc form ONLY for those users who use a hotmail email.

The only problem i see is , undoubtedly aff uses/sells the emails from unconfirmed signups.
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You are right about that Mr. X.. But if he cannot get to the free members area (because he never received a password to his email), he is lost surfer anyway, and definitely would not buy anything.
I agree, which is why my first reply in the thread was about how a company like AFF should not 'do nothing' if they are not reaching Hotmail and say "thats Microsoft's fault" - they should work to get through to the inbox.
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thats simply not true. I can guarantee if you added the cc form onto the registration form your signups would drop like a stone.

What i suggested was adding the cc form ONLY for those users who use a hotmail email.

The only problem i see is , undoubtedly aff uses/sells the emails from unconfirmed signups.
This is untrue. We do not sell emails lists of any kind. I also suggest that people test signing up for an account on Adult FriendFinder with a hotmail address before they jump to conclusions that our emails are not reaching potential members.
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awwwwww.... AFF fucked you over.

What did you think was going to happen?
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1) AFF mails do reach the inbox of your hotmail account, just tested it...

2) AFF does not display RAW MEMBERS ; ONLY RAW VISITORS . From which a percentage signs up as a free member. Apparently your stats are that you have 1100 RAW VISITORS from which 10% signs up as a free member.



So I'm just guessing you need to talk to AFF and have them explain how your stats work and are displayed.

Needless to say that AFF converts pretty bad the last year.
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