Russian Cameraman: CNN Aired Misleading Footage

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Broadcaster showed Georgian forces attacking South Ossetia, claimed it was Russians attacking Gori
CNN is airing misleading footage of the war between Georgia and Russia, skewing public opinion in favor of the Georgians, according to a Russia Today cameraman interviewed this morning.

The Russian cameraman charged that CNN had used his footage of Georgian forces attacking Russian civilians in Tskhinvali, the provincial capital of South Ossetia, but then claimed it showed Russians attacking Georgians in the Georgian town of Gori.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/russian-...g-footage.html

On top of that... (haven't heard this on mainstream news anywhere yet)
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev this morning ordered an immediate halt to Russia?s military operations against Georgia.

?The purpose of the operation has been achieved?. The security of our peacekeeping forces and the civilian population has been restored,? Interfax quoted him as saying.

[klaze]

Is Alex Jones considered a reputable source for news now?

[_Richard_]

A Russian cameraman says footage of wrecked tanks and ruined buildings, which was purported to be the town of Gori,

yet... russians are saying:

Tskhinvali, which had been flattened by Georgian shelling.

so what is it? flattened or not?

because RT, the guys running that story, are screaming 'genocide' and 'city completely flattened'

[just a punk]

Actually that's typical for CNN. They always used to be cheeky liars. Take a look th this site: http://www.anti-cnn.com/

It's not on English but pics and videos don't lie.

[just a punk]

BTW proof is required here. There are RUSSIAN soldiers and South Ossetian militia shown on that footage (not the Georgians). Sorry guys, but I can identify a Russian uniform. BTW, on some frames you can even see a singe hospital of Tshinvali destroyed by Georgian "grads" during their "clean field" operation in a first night of the conflict.

[xxxdesign-net]

Is Alex Jones considered a reputable source for news now?

Do you suffer from a.d.d.? If you had spent more than 30 sec reading the article, you would have found that the original source is actually here.. http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28880

[d-null]

I noticed there is a real biased slant to the reporting from cnn on this conflict right from the start, little comments added, choice of words.... CNN doesn't really deserve much respect as a news broadcaster

[AdultMovies.bz]

Is Alex Jones considered a reputable source for news now?

xxxdesign-net is correct, its not Alex Jones saying this, its a news site that this has been sourced from. Even if it was Alex Jones though, can you name one thing he has ever lied about? I can't, since he has links to mainstream articles relating to everything he covers...

[seeandsee]

CNN CNN CNN they showed some old demonstration from Hungray covering demonstration from Belgrade week+ ago...

[d-null]

CNN CNN CNN they showed some old demonstration from Hungray covering demonstration from Belgrade week+ ago...

the thing I don't understand, is why aren't the other big american news agencies all over this bigger story that CNN is full of a bunch of shit?? are they all one and the same????

[just a punk]

The most serious problem is that western media shows distorted only information. First of all there was no a single word written in western media while Georgia was destroying a whole South Ossetian city with a sleeping people there. Al those "Wow! Russia invades Georgia" are started coming only when Russian forces came to a zone of conflict to protect its peace keepers and civilian citizens. That's very typical for the western media these days. I was living in the USSR for many years and I still remember the Soviet propaganda. I also told here that now the western media acts exactly that way. I told this many times on GFY in the past (at least a year ago). The current situation is just a very good proof for my words.

Saakashvili even tried to say that 1600 civilians and 12 Russian peace keepers in Tshinvali were killed due to RUSSIAN bombing. And you know, western media has also tried to use his version in their reports.

[hypedough]

I can't really believe anything until I see it with my own eyes. This situation is bigger than what I or you can probably say.

[just a punk]

I can't really believe anything until I see it with my own eyes. This situation is bigger than what I or you can probably say.

The problem is that western media hasn't even tried to show you what exactly happened in Tshinvali. If you are looking for an objective info (or at least for a different point of view), check this site: http://russiatoday.com/ - it's all in English so you will be able to read in comfortable.

I was always wondered why you guys/ladies used to watch one-side news (CNN, FOX, BBC etc) only while trying to find out the truth.

Personally I watch and read everything. I was never fully trusted to the Russian media, so I always watch/read western sources as well. If you noticed, I've posted a lot of links to CNN, BBC, The Times, Independent etc. We have no information blockage here in Russia. On the other hand, Georgian people have - their access to the information was restricted by Saakashvili's order. Don't you think it was done because he has something to hide from his own people?

[just a punk]

Check this out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29507379@N06

[The Duck]

Who knows the real story these days, only the people who are affected directly. All news outlets are biased or outright trying to decieve.

[just a punk]

Who knows the real story these days, only the people who are affected directly. All news outlets are biased or outright trying to decieve.

That's why I have posted the links to Ossetian and Georgian blogs

[d-null]

Who knows the real story these days, only the people who are affected directly. All news outlets are biased or outright trying to decieve.

I don't paint them all with the same brush, some are way worse than others

I think BBC is a hell of a lot better than CNN for one.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Do you suffer from a.d.d.? If you had spent more than 30 sec reading the article, you would have found that the original source is actually here.. http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28880

Not saying this is true in this case BUT if you watch the Russia Today channel it is a propaganda machine most of the time. It is interesting to see things from a different perspective but the second the story is about Russia it is positive spin all the way.

I am not sure if Russia Today is on US tv anywhere but in the UK you can find it on the digital channels.

[StuartD]

And no one will piece this back to 9/11 and Iraq.... imagine, what if CNN had skewed reporting of these events as well? Hmm....

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I find that sites like www.infowars.net provide quite accurate info which is generally hidden in "fine print" at the bottom of some mainstream media publications but very few.

[pornguy]

BTW proof is required here. There are RUSSIAN soldiers and South Ossetian militia shown on that footage (not the Georgians). Sorry guys, but I can identify a Russian uniform. BTW, on some frames you can even see a singe hospital of Tshinvali destroyed by Georgian "grads" during their "clean field" operation in a first night of the conflict.

One of the major issues that the Mexican government has, is that the drug dealers here have the same military and police uniforms as they do. Makes for identifying people hard.

Dont think for one second that could not have happened there.

[Holly]

It's obviously Anderson Cooper's fault.

[WarChild]

Who really cares what a bunch of potato headed looking mother fuckers are doing to each other in shitholestan?

[Phil]

Not saying this is true in this case BUT if you watch the Russia Today channel it is a propaganda machine most of the time. It is interesting to see things from a different perspective but the second the story is about Russia it is positive spin all the way.

I am not sure if Russia Today is on US tv anywhere but in the UK you can find it on the digital channels.

You ever watched FOX.. Now thats one fucking propoganda.

They can make turd biscuit taste like Oreo cookies

[Phil]

yet... russians are saying:




so what is it? flattened or not?

because RT, the guys running that story, are screaming 'genocide' and 'city completely flattened'

here.. this is how things look like at war.. not that you would know anything about it.
would you want to be there? Don't think so. So sit tight in your comfort zone and shut the fuck up.

[Phil]

does your apartment in BC look like that Richard??? would you fucking care if its 90% burnt down or just 75%?

[WarChild]

Camokat, please pipe down, cry baby. K thx.

[AdultMovies.bz]

You ever watched FOX.. Now thats one fucking propoganda.

They can make turd biscuit taste like Oreo cookies

I second that, I still remember when another news network tried to cover up the "mercury in vaccines" problem and they came out with a piece saying how good and healthy Mercury injected into young kids is for their brain development LOL, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZArebYZzdc

[Phil]

Camokat, please pipe down, cry baby. K thx.

No man, fucking “Richard” has been at it for a week now.
Dumbass keeps coming back with same shit “well is it genocide according to Russians or the world”… “is this Russian way or not”… “so the Russians are saying but I’m smarter..”..
Just fuck off. Enough is enough. Fat ass is sitting on a couch in Vancouver with Cheetos and coke stains on his shirt talking about dead people as if they were toy soldiers.

[WarChild]

No man, fucking ?Richard? has been at it for a week now.
Dumbass keeps coming back with same shit ?well is it genocide according to Russians or the world?? ?is this Russian way or not?? ?so the Russians are saying but I?m smarter..?..
Just fuck off. Enough is enough. Fat ass is sitting on a couch in Vancouver with Cheetos and coke stains on his shirt talking about dead people as if they were toy soldiers.

I was just teasing.

It's a pretty shit thing happening over there.

[Sarah_Jayne]

You ever watched FOX.. Now thats one fucking propoganda.

They can make turd biscuit taste like Oreo cookies

Fox makes my headache within two minutes of turning it on. It is more like 10 seconds if it is O'reily. However, doesn't change what Russia Today is like either. I enjoy watching it at times because they come out with some strange stories that we would never get in the Western media. You just have to take its reporting on Russia with a pinch of salt and weigh it against other sources. Which is what should be done with most media and somewhere in it all is something near the truth...maybe.

[cykoe6]

No matter what you think about Russian actions there can be no doubt that the Western medias reporting has been shamefully biased against Russia. Georgian atrocities are not mentioned while the television is full of pictures of injured Georgian civilians. You would have to read very carefully to understand that Georgia had attacked South Ossetia. The reports sound as if Russia attacked Georgia and all the casualties were caused by Russia. Really shameful stuff.

[just a punk]

No man, fucking ?Richard? has been at it for a week now.
Dumbass keeps coming back with same shit ?well is it genocide according to Russians or the world?? ?is this Russian way or not?? ?so the Russians are saying but I?m smarter..?..
Just fuck off. Enough is enough. Fat ass is sitting on a couch in Vancouver with Cheetos and coke stains on his shirt talking about dead people as if they were toy soldiers.

He is just a stupid 22 y.o. kid from a small Canadian village. Leave Richard alone! (c)

[notime]

CNN is just another front for a 3-letter organisation telling people what to think (my guess)
I was tought in school never to believe all you hear on TV.
Some is always true, rest is bullshit, ad sales & propaganda

[just a punk]

No matter what you think about Russian actions there can be no doubt that the Western medias reporting has been shamefully biased against Russia. Georgian atrocities are not mentioned while the television is full of pictures of injured Georgian civilians. You would have to read very carefully to understand that Georgia had attacked South Ossetia. The reports sound as if Russia attacked Georgia and all the casualties were caused by Russia. Really shameful stuff.

Exactly. It's like to show on TV an American military action against Afghanistan within a few days with a big tittle: "AMERICANS INVADE AFGHANISTAN". And on 3rd day say something like: "Ah yah, we forgot to tell you that American came there because of some tragic indecent what happened in NY on 9/11 and there is an info that Osama may have some relation to that".

[Phil]

Fox makes my headache within two minutes of turning it on. It is more like 10 seconds if it is O'reily. However, doesn't change what Russia Today is like either. I enjoy watching it at times because they come out with some strange stories that we would never get in the Western media. You just have to take its reporting on Russia with a pinch of salt and weigh it against other sources. Which is what should be done with most media and somewhere in it all is something near the truth...maybe.

what stories are those?
besides, all media is bias one way or another, but come on.. some things are FACTS not someboby's opinion.

[Sarah_Jayne]

what stories are those?
besides, all media is bias one way or another, but come on.. some things are FACTS not someboby's opinion.

Firstly..I am not arguing with your larger premise so calm down.

However, I do watch Russia Today because I like to try to get news from as many sources as possible. I also on occasion watch that English language service of Aljazeera to see their side of things.

So, I haven't just come to Russia Today during this current crisis and it isn't something I have only now noticed. I think Russia Today is generally a good source for finding out stories about Eastern Europe that might not generally get much play outside of the region. For example, when the last batch of Eastern European countries joined the EU it was interesting to see the reports coming from those countries rather than reports about them from Western media.

However, whenever the stories about about the Russian government they never balance the story and they very rarely ever interview somebody that disagrees with a policy too strongly.

Now, with this conflict, I went over to watch Russia Today and all they had playing in a loop was a giant red 'GENOCIDE'. There was no exploration of the story from the other side. It was just fact that Russia was right and there was no other side at all.

I take your point that Fox does mostly the same thing with any USA conflicts. However, that doesn't make either 'news' station fair or balanced.

Russia Today was fun to watch on the night Russia won Eurovision though. I guess I didn't know they took it that seriously and that was fun to watch the reactions.

[just a punk]

Sarah_MaxCash, Is "Russia Today" very emotional? Totally agree, it is! But does it show bullshit lies like CNN does? No!

That's why I suggested you to watch it. You're not a little girl, so you should be able to see the FACTS even through an emotional prism.

P.S. Can you blame "Russia Today" for being so emotional regarding 100's (perhaps thousands) of Russian citizen murdered by the insane dictator who prays for Stalin and Beria?

[just a punk]

These are pictures of MODERN free and democratic Georgian Gori:







Do you know this guy?

[polish_aristocrat]

We have no information blockage here in Russia. On the other hand, Georgian people have - their access to the information was restricted by Saakashvili's order. Don't you think it was done because he has something to hide from his own people?

In Poland they said that Russian forces/hackers/whoever have blocked the Georgian sites...

That's why the the polish president has given a part of his website to post announcements in the name of the Georgian president....

[polish_aristocrat]

take a look here

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne...814-82367.html

[Sarah_Jayne]

Sarah_MaxCash, Is "Russia Today" very emotional? Totally agree, it is! But does it show bullshit lies like CNN does? No!

That's why I suggested you to watch it. You're not a little girl, so you should be able to see the FACTS even through an emotional prism.

P.S. Can you blame "Russia Today" for being so emotional regarding 100's (perhaps thousands) of Russian citizen murdered by the insane dictator who prays for Stalin and Beria?

Is something not a lie if only half a story is told? Again, not saying CNN hasn't done that but if Russia Today doesn't show both sides either then it is also a half truth. Be emotional but then that isn't proper journalism. I went to journalism school and it bugs me when I watch Fox News and they consistently don't quote sources or try to blend comment with news. So - once again - it isn't just Russia Today. However, if Russia Today only presents the Russian side then it may very well be a fact that it is what they feel but that doesn't make it the whole truth (in any case not just a case as serious as this..which I am not trying to belittle).

[just a punk]

In Poland they said that Russian forces/hackers/whoever have blocked the Georgian sites...

That's why the the polish president has given a part of his website to post announcements in the name of the Georgian president....

That's very nice move. Especially because Saakashvili has restricted an access to the Internet and all non-Georgian TV channels to his own citizens. Thanks god I live in Russia there is no censorship at all - both Internet and western TV channels are available for everyone. Perhaps because we have nothing to hide, but Saakashvili has.

P.S. Shame on your president - he is a fucking moron and a dirty whore sucking a cook of a bloody Georgian dictator. I hope Poland is proud of him

[just a punk]

take a look here

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne...814-82367.html

Nice one. I loved it. Thanks a lot

[just a punk]

Is something not a lie if only half a story is told?

Yes that's very bad. All the western media was keeping silence when Georgian army was killing seeping civilians and Russian peace keepers equipped with AK's only. Totally agree with you - all the western media sucks a donkey dick.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Yes that's very bad. All the western media was keeping silence when Georgian army was killing seeping civilians and Russian peace keepers equipped with AK's only. Totally agree with you - all the western media sucks a donkey dick.

Okay, It had potential for an interesting discussion but I get that you are in the middle of something that has emotions running high. As I consistently have pointed out in my posts here, there is uneven journalism on ALL sides. I am a fan of the BBC and they do try to show both sides but I will admit that while they do show a bit from both perspectives on this conflict they have been covering the Georgian side more. Which is why I turned to Russia Today in the first place to try to see the Russian perspective but I don't think RT is any more valid a new source then the western media at the moment EXCEPT when it comes to reporting the views of Russians which is valuable to those of us trying to understand.

Btw..I assume you may not have seen the English version of the RT channel (not sure how it works) but it always feels odd to me how many of the newsreaders are Australian.

[polish_aristocrat]

That's very nice move. Especially because Saakashvili has restricted an access to the Internet and all non-Georgian TV channels to his own citizens. Thanks god I live in Russia there is no censorship at all - both Internet and western TV channels are available for everyone. Perhaps because we have nothing to hide, but Saakashvili has.

P.S. Shame on your president - he is a fucking moron and a dirty whore sucking a cook of a bloody Georgian dictator. I hope Poland is proud of him

Poland's president isn't liked in Poland for sure, but despite that, in general many people have applaued him for taking a strong stance in Georgia... but if the media speak all day about the Russian agressor then it's to be expected that most people will support him in opposing the agressor and supporting the poor opressed Georgia

Nice one. I loved it. Thanks a lot

well isn't is true? I guess either you're right or they are..
Ah well, this is definitely an interesting subject overall, but I don't feel like discussing it in depth. But it's definitely interesting how the media in different countries portray this.

For example I heard like 2 days ago that Russian have killed like 200 Georgians but Georgians have killed like 2000 people in Osetia, but the last source comes from Russia, is unconfirmed and no one is really concerned about it or talks about it, all that matters is that Georgians need Poland's political support and humanitary aid etc....

hm so I guess both sides have their strong propaganda and the truth lies in between...

[pocketkangaroo]

Do you suffer from a.d.d.? If you had spent more than 30 sec reading the article, you would have found that the original source is actually here.. http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28880

Isn't Russia Today a state funded news source? I mean do you really think they are going to be siding with the Georgians?

[xxxdesign-net]

Isn't Russia Today a state funded news source? I mean do you really think they are going to be siding with the Georgians?

First of, i didnt comment on whether or not Russia Today was credible... That being said, CBC here in Canada is state funded and find it more independent than the main public US stations.. What makes you believe that CNN is more honest than Russia Today? Are the owners of the main networks completely independent from the political elite?

[pocketkangaroo]

First of, i didnt comment on whether or not Russia Today was credible... That being said, CBC here in Canada is state funded and find it more independent than the main public US stations.. What makes you believe that CNN is more honest than Russia Today? Are the owners of the main networks completely independent from the political elite?

Not at all. But CNN reporters don't end up murdered when they report negative stories about the U.S. government.