take a look here

http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne...814-82367.html

Is something not a lie if only half a story is told? Again, not saying CNN hasn't done that but if Russia Today doesn't show both sides either then it is also a half truth. Be emotional but then that isn't proper journalism. I went to journalism school and it bugs me when I watch Fox News and they consistently don't quote sources or try to blend comment with news. So - once again - it isn't just Russia Today. However, if Russia Today only presents the Russian side then it may very well be a fact that it is what they feel but that doesn't make it the whole truth (in any case not just a case as serious as this..which I am not trying to belittle).

That's very nice move. Especially because Saakashvili has restricted an access to the Internet and all non-Georgian TV channels to his own citizens. Thanks god I live in Russia there is no censorship at all - both Internet and western TV channels are available for everyone. Perhaps because we have nothing to hide, but Saakashvili has.

P.S. Shame on your president - he is a fucking moron and a dirty whore sucking a cook of a bloody Georgian dictator. I hope Poland is proud of him :winkwink:

Nice one. I loved it. Thanks a lot :thumbsup

Yes that's very bad. All the western media was keeping silence when Georgian army was killing seeping civilians and Russian peace keepers equipped with AK's only. Totally agree with you - all the western media sucks a donkey dick.

Okay, It had potential for an interesting discussion but I get that you are in the middle of something that has emotions running high. As I consistently have pointed out in my posts here, there is uneven journalism on ALL sides. I am a fan of the BBC and they do try to show both sides but I will admit that while they do show a bit from both perspectives on this conflict they have been covering the Georgian side more. Which is why I turned to Russia Today in the first place to try to see the Russian perspective but I don't think RT is any more valid a new source then the western media at the moment EXCEPT when it comes to reporting the views of Russians which is valuable to those of us trying to understand.

Btw..I assume you may not have seen the English version of the RT channel (not sure how it works) but it always feels odd to me how many of the newsreaders are Australian.

Poland's president isn't liked in Poland for sure, but despite that, in general many people have applaued him for taking a strong stance in Georgia... but if the media speak all day about the Russian agressor then it's to be expected that most people will support him in opposing the agressor and supporting the poor opressed Georgia


well isn't is true? I guess either you're right or they are..
Ah well, this is definitely an interesting subject overall, but I don't feel like discussing it in depth. But it's definitely interesting how the media in different countries portray this.

For example I heard like 2 days ago that Russian have killed like 200 Georgians but Georgians have killed like 2000 people in Osetia, but the last source comes from Russia, is unconfirmed and no one is really concerned about it or talks about it, all that matters is that Georgians need Poland's political support and humanitary aid etc....

hm so I guess both sides have their strong propaganda and the truth lies in between...

Isn't Russia Today a state funded news source? I mean do you really think they are going to be siding with the Georgians?

First of, i didnt comment on whether or not Russia Today was credible... That being said, CBC here in Canada is state funded and find it more independent than the main public US stations.. What makes you believe that CNN is more honest than Russia Today? Are the owners of the main networks completely independent from the political elite?

Not at all. But CNN reporters don't end up murdered when they report negative stories about the U.S. government.

without reading anything it this thread I will tell you this. MOST if not ALL war footage is packaged by the CIA/FBI/DHS or Military commanders and sent to the MSM for them to play. Sometimes the footage even has text for them to say.

This whole conflict has been "lets blame each other for killing innocent civilians". War sucks no matter who started it. The media only make things worse by mis-reporting, Both Russian and Western news outlets are full of propaganda bullshit :2 cents:

Huge FOX fuckup !!! :1orglaugh
studio guys go on about "bad russians" then go to reporter in georgia who's been fired at by georgian army..
check this out.. guy is running for his life telling what georgians do to civilians..
Now, I'm sure he's lying too, georgians are the good guys, remember?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=H8FajNEaxwc

how do you add youtube video in posts?

I'm not a fan of anything. I'm too old to be a fan (not a pimply teenager) so I say fuck them all. However (!!!) BBC and other media companies were keep silence almost 24 hours - all the time when the Ossetian people were slaughtered. And only Russian media was showing all that hell. Actually almost the only. Georgian news also translated their "victorious" war which they called "clean field". When they came into Tshinvali, Saakashvili was very happy and even announced that Georgian army has gain over South Ossetia. I saw it all. Your lovely BBC was showing nothing. So I'm sorry but the media company you consider yourself a fan of is just a stinky pile of shit. :2 cents:

Once again: there were no sides during almost 24 hours. The second side (Russia) came to help Ossetians when Tshinvali was almost destroyed. I don't really care if you understand it or not.

Nothing personal.

Easily. Like this:



Try to quote my message and you'll see how exactly I have it embedded.

You don't understand one simple thing. There was NO RUSSIA when Georgian army started bombing Tshinvali and 350 Russian peacekeepers located there and armed with AK's only. They were killing civilians all the night until Russia haven't moved its forces to protect South Ossetia. So there was ONLY ONE SIDE - the aggressor. Don't you really think that Georgia was able to do this if Russian army was in located in Tshinvali prior the attack? You can agree or disagree to the news, but how about a simple human logic? Georgian Army turned back right then Russian military forces took a stand between them and Tshinvali. And only after that western media woke up and started crying about "those brutal Russians" But it was too late... many hundreds of Ossetian civilians (including women and kids) and 12 Russian peace keepers were killed.

FOX + Georgia = Friends to the Death :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And that army was trained by the best US military instructors! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Morning bump

I think the media will be able to sell stupid people anything they want, after all many Americans actually thought it was Russians attacking the state of Georgia in the US, and if they're confused to that level then you may as well not even bother... sad but true. Some Americans still think Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and their president isn't a crack addict :)

damn thats really bad:(:(:(

one guy on my hockey team would kill you if you tolk him there wasn't any WMDs in Iraq. he thinks that russians took it 2 weeks before the war and dumped chemical weapons in the gulf.

Here they go again...
 

Sky News uses footage of ruins of South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, says it is Georgia?s key town of Gori

Sky New lies giving ruins of South Ossetian capital, Tskhinvali, for Georgia?s key town of Gori, which they say Russian bombed.

The channel simply used the footage of Tskhinvali, which was literally ruined as a result of Georgia?s attacks, to make reports about the situation in the town of Gori, which the Russian aviation supposedly bombed.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/sky-news...n-of-gori.html

Yes, it was already proved that western media has used Tskhinvali footage to accuse Russian of bombing Gori. Two-faced liars.

i'm not surprised. Reuters has been caught doctoring images and the like to make things more interesting

- Mrs. Smith, do you have a family?
- Oh, yes, I have 4 sons and lovely husband!
- And where they are now?
- My younger son John is now in Iraq. My second son Mike is in Afghanistan. My third son Bill is in Kosovo now. My elder son Peter now going to Iran.
- And where is your husband now?
- He is traveling around the world with lectures: "How to stop Russian invasion in Georgia"

I think the problem is the news organizations went from reporting news because it was news to nearly making shit up to have something interesting to report.

Fluffy bunnies don't get people to watch the news. War does.