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Paul Markham · 08-13-2008, 10:52 PM

Feature Focus: Your Laptop is an Open Book at U.S. Border

America is less free today.

Paul Markham · 08-13-2008, 11:49 PM

No comments?

This effects us all who go into and out of the US. With todays bar coding of passports the system knows exactly who you are and what you do for a living.

d-null · 08-14-2008, 12:04 AM

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Kevsh · 08-14-2008, 12:09 AM

If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it. Imagine if a random search like this helped crack a child porn ring? Or prevented a terrorist attack?

Sure it sucks for us people in adult who go to the U.S. and need to bring our work, but in the big picture - which most people don't give a shit about, this makes sense: (Talking From an American citizen's POV) "You're coming into my country so we have a right to be sure you're not bringing in illegal porn or planning a terrorist attack."

Besides that, really, you can get a random body scan and that's okay. They can go through your suitcase, purse, etc. and that's acceptable too. But a laptop, which potentially can carry obscene material or even material that could threaten national security, and that's a no-no.

Anyhow, to object is to have your priorities out of whack. Here in Canada I would be totally supportive to our Customs being allowed to do the same for visitors, and expect the same treatment when I go to their country.

d-null · 08-14-2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it. Imagine if a random search like this helped crack a child porn ring? Or prevented a terrorist attack?
.

holy shit

eroticsexxx · 08-14-2008, 12:22 AM

"He who gives up essential liberty for a little temporary security deserves neither liberty nor security." - Benjamin Franklin

The Duck · 08-14-2008, 12:23 AM

The nwo plan in full action.

commonsense · 08-14-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it. Imagine if a random search like this helped crack a child porn ring? Or prevented a terrorist attack?

Sure it sucks for us people in adult who go to the U.S. and need to bring our work, but in the big picture - which most people don't give a shit about, this makes sense: (Talking From an American citizen's POV) "You're coming into my country so we have a right to be sure you're not bringing in illegal porn or planning a terrorist attack."

Besides that, really, you can get a random body scan and that's okay. They can go through your suitcase, purse, etc. and that's acceptable too. But a laptop, which potentially can carry obscene material or even material that could threaten national security, and that's a no-no.

Anyhow, to object is to have your priorities out of whack. Here in Canada I would be totally supportive to our Customs being allowed to do the same for visitors, and expect the same treatment when I go to their country.

You are a god damn idiot

Shey · 08-14-2008, 01:08 AM

Already had this happen to me once about a year ago. The guys were real asses about the whole thing because they found some banners. Called us spammers and basically said that that's the only thing we in the porn industry do is spam.

I just sat back and took it like a man, heh, what else are you gonna do? I don't agree with it but from then on, I clean my whole machine before I go into the US.

Socks · 08-14-2008, 01:17 AM

At least if they know you're a pornographer they can expect to find some porno on your PC. I'd hate to be the middle school teacher going through with a bunch of teen porn on my PC y'know?

I wonder if they have the rights to copy off your whole HD and inspect later.

After Shock Media · 08-14-2008, 01:19 AM

This is not new at all really.
I always travel with a clean laptop anyways and just download a ghost from my server of the files I need and reupload any changes I have done before I erase it and head home again.

Email is also done through gmail and that is typically set to my family email address before travel anyways.

Browser histories, temp files, cookie caches are clean as well.

Guess with most searches it would be clean anyways unless they really seriously wanted to dig into it and anaylize the crap out of it, yet why would they. I am not one for searches and crap, nor giving up any rights. I just have long come to deal with that air travel is highly regulated and your rights have gone out the window on them long ago. The passport chip well lets just say mine had an accident, though it really does not concern me that much anyways as I do not care if people know where I travel to and again it is air travel.

fluffygrrl · 08-14-2008, 01:45 AM

I guess the correct response of people who actually have to visit the asshole of the civilised world would be to fully encrypt using strong, 512 or 1024 bit security, all the data on all their partitions.

Course the really correct response to living in 1935's Germany is to get the fuck out.

kmanrox · 08-14-2008, 02:13 AM

does this mean im gonna have to encrypt my cp, and upload it to an intermediary server to retrive it on the other side?? what a pain in the ass

Emil · 08-14-2008, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it.

first time i really laughed out loud for real.

Kevsh · 08-14-2008, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense

You are a god damn idiot

Care to expand on your answer?

I guess you could look at it a way that makes things more simple. If you're not from the USA you have a few options:

1) Bring your laptop and take a chance that Customs will search your hard drive.

2) Don't bring your laptop.

3) Don't go to the USA

Simple.

Quote:

first time i really laughed out loud for real.

First time ... ever? Gee, I'm glad I was your first, it's usually the most memorable.

Evil E · 08-14-2008, 08:18 AM

4) have a clean laptop and do remote work

stickyfingerz · 08-14-2008, 08:45 AM

Logmein.com ftw. Keep laptop clean, and just login to the desktop at home if I need anything. If you really need something pw protect your drive.

Can they force you to enter your pw to your laptop I wonder?

Libertine · 08-14-2008, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Care to expand on your answer?

I guess you could look at it a way that makes things more simple. If you're not from the USA you have a few options:

1) Bring your laptop and take a chance that Customs will search your hard drive.

2) Don't bring your laptop.

3) Don't go to the USA

Simple.

I'll explain his answer for him.

1) Anyone who truly has nefarious stuff to hide (terrorist plans, cp, whatever) will send it heavily encrypted over the internet.

2) Things that will turn up are trade secrets, personal files (pictures of your naked wife, your diary, etc) and other things that the government has no business looking into.

Giving up a fair amount of privacy for zero extra security. Yeah, awesome idea.

Why · 08-14-2008, 09:11 AM

this isnt new, iv had mine searched years and years ago while entering canada.

Why · 08-14-2008, 09:14 AM

what is it with XBIZ always reporting old ass shit like its something new. fucking annoying, guess they have nothing worth a damned to write about this week.

stickyfingerz · 08-14-2008, 09:16 AM

Is there a way to create a hidden user account on your laptop? Not like they have MIT guys working in the airports to pull your info out hehe.

pornguy · 08-14-2008, 09:19 AM

I have crossed my laptop 15 times with no issues. They asked what was in the bag, I said my laptop they said have a nice day. This was at a car crossing. Never in the airport.

Sadly stopping people at the airport and searching laptops wont help much. they will from time to time catch the odd idiot that does not delete it all, but the rest will do the same as mentioned in this thread. Clear it all, and upload it to a server.

pornguy · 08-14-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Is there a way to create a hidden user account on your laptop? Not like they have MIT guys working in the airports to pull your info out hehe.

If they think for one second that there is something hidden, they can take it to be checked. They have sever al brute force programs that they can use on it to get into files etc. And if the HD or the computer is damaged at all while in their care, Oh Well.

Kimo · 08-14-2008, 09:30 AM

wow xbiz a little late on the news story huh didnt this story make mainstream news like a month ago?

12clicks · 08-14-2008, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No comments?

This effects us all who go into and out of the US. With todays bar coding of passports the system knows exactly who you are and what you do for a living.

then don't come.

StuartD · 08-14-2008, 09:46 AM

I love the ones spouting "if you're not guilty, you have nothing to worry about. I like it because it stops criminals" and meanwhile, in their second breath will talk about how terrorists hate America because they're jealous of their "freedom".

If that's your idea of freedom, no one is jealous.

Paul Markham · 08-15-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it. Imagine if a random search like this helped crack a child porn ring? Or prevented a terrorist attack?

Sure it sucks for us people in adult who go to the U.S. and need to bring our work, but in the big picture - which most people don't give a shit about, this makes sense: (Talking From an American citizen's POV) "You're coming into my country so we have a right to be sure you're not bringing in illegal porn or planning a terrorist attack."

Besides that, really, you can get a random body scan and that's okay. They can go through your suitcase, purse, etc. and that's acceptable too. But a laptop, which potentially can carry obscene material or even material that could threaten national security, and that's a no-no.

Anyhow, to object is to have your priorities out of whack. Here in Canada I would be totally supportive to our Customs being allowed to do the same for visitors, and expect the same treatment when I go to their country.

This would all make sense if this is what it was used for and the law was applied with common sense. Unfortunately the it's not what it's used for and it's applied with no common sense and in practice applied with moronic sense. I know I have been through it many times.

When I fly to the US I have an over night stop in NY, love the city and no intention of getting on another plane for a day or two. The over night stop comes up on my ticket and this singles me out for a full search. I'm mid fifties, greying, European and a business man, not your typical profile for a terrorist. They also know I'm a legal pornographer as this comes up in their systems. But not what they're looking for.

The Arab looking students in the line do not get pulled out because they did not have an overnight stay. I'm sure Al Queda know how this part of the system works. When asked why the Arab looking students were not pulled out for a full check I was told this was racist profiling and illegal and wrong. By a guy who could be Muslim, looked maybe Turkish, was employed by an outside security company and probably on minimum wage.

He als called me a racist and said I did not understand the situation.

Laws are fine is applied with common sense, sadly they are not.

Paul Markham · 08-15-2008, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine

I'll explain his answer for him.

1) Anyone who truly has nefarious stuff to hide (terrorist plans, cp, whatever) will send it heavily encrypted over the internet.

2) Things that will turn up are trade secrets, personal files (pictures of your naked wife, your diary, etc) and other things that the government has no business looking into.

Giving up a fair amount of privacy for zero extra security. Yeah, awesome idea.

Please stop being sensible, this is GFY, and using common sense. We all know the terrorists are morons who will have no idea how to get around elementary procedures like these. And no one would ever think the procedures were just to make it look as if you had a clue and were doing something affective.

Let's face it these procedures are all about looking good and little about real prevention.

Sorry for posting an old story, for some it's not.

pamon · 08-16-2008, 12:17 AM

i've travelled and only once in Canada did they give me problems. His words were... " You don't have anything on there you shouldn't do you". I smiled at him and said, no I keep my porn collection at home. Gave him the finger and walked away. Customs officials are 99% BS and wannabe police officers who failed training. I've had problems traveling solo and they always assume I'm a drug trafficker or something similar. One of them on a trip from the Philippines asked me my purpose of the trip.. Told him to relax and play.. he asked play?.. I said yeah, I have a different girl each night for 10 nights and play... He smiled and I walked on...

They booted mine up on a couple of occasions but that's all. It's making news recently because Congress is getting involved i think...

Good article though..

hypedough · 08-16-2008, 12:19 AM

I dread the day I have to bring my laptop on a plane in the next few months.

08-13-2008, 10:52 PM	#1
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Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	If it helps stop the transport of child pornography and/or terrorist related information then I'm all for it. Imagine if a random search like this helped crack a child porn ring? Or prevented a terrorist attack? Sure it sucks for us people in adult who go to the U.S. and need to bring our work, but in the big picture - which most people don't give a shit about, this makes sense: (Talking From an American citizen's POV) "You're coming into my country so we have a right to be sure you're not bringing in illegal porn or planning a terrorist attack." Besides that, really, you can get a random body scan and that's okay. They can go through your suitcase, purse, etc. and that's acceptable too. But a laptop, which potentially can carry obscene material or even material that could threaten national security, and that's a no-no. Anyhow, to object is to have your priorities out of whack. Here in Canada I would be totally supportive to our Customs being allowed to do the same for visitors, and expect the same treatment when I go to their country.

08-14-2008, 01:08 AM	#9
Shey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,654	Already had this happen to me once about a year ago. The guys were real asses about the whole thing because they found some banners. Called us spammers and basically said that that's the only thing we in the porn industry do is spam. I just sat back and took it like a man, heh, what else are you gonna do? I don't agree with it but from then on, I clean my whole machine before I go into the US. __________________ Regards, Shey <at> datePROFITS.com\| ICQ: 279858568 \| Skype: sheysworld \| Y!M: sheyla702 datePROFITS: Every Niche of ExGF Dating Sites!

08-14-2008, 01:17 AM	#10
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	At least if they know you're a pornographer they can expect to find some porno on your PC. I'd hate to be the middle school teacher going through with a bunch of teen porn on my PC y'know? I wonder if they have the rights to copy off your whole HD and inspect later.

08-14-2008, 01:19 AM	#11
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	This is not new at all really. I always travel with a clean laptop anyways and just download a ghost from my server of the files I need and reupload any changes I have done before I erase it and head home again. Email is also done through gmail and that is typically set to my family email address before travel anyways. Browser histories, temp files, cookie caches are clean as well. Guess with most searches it would be clean anyways unless they really seriously wanted to dig into it and anaylize the crap out of it, yet why would they. I am not one for searches and crap, nor giving up any rights. I just have long come to deal with that air travel is highly regulated and your rights have gone out the window on them long ago. The passport chip well lets just say mine had an accident, though it really does not concern me that much anyways as I do not care if people know where I travel to and again it is air travel. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

08-14-2008, 01:45 AM	#12
fluffygrrl So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,187	I guess the correct response of people who actually have to visit the asshole of the civilised world would be to fully encrypt using strong, 512 or 1024 bit security, all the data on all their partitions. Course the really correct response to living in 1935's Germany is to get the fuck out.

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Logmein.com ftw. Keep laptop clean, and just login to the desktop at home if I need anything. If you really need something pw protect your drive. Can they force you to enter your pw to your laptop I wonder?

08-14-2008, 09:11 AM	#19
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	this isnt new, iv had mine searched years and years ago while entering canada.

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	what is it with XBIZ always reporting old ass shit like its something new. fucking annoying, guess they have nothing worth a damned to write about this week.

08-14-2008, 09:16 AM	#21
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Is there a way to create a hidden user account on your laptop? Not like they have MIT guys working in the airports to pull your info out hehe.

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08-16-2008, 12:17 AM	#29
pamon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,110	i've travelled and only once in Canada did they give me problems. His words were... " You don't have anything on there you shouldn't do you". I smiled at him and said, no I keep my porn collection at home. Gave him the finger and walked away. Customs officials are 99% BS and wannabe police officers who failed training. I've had problems traveling solo and they always assume I'm a drug trafficker or something similar. One of them on a trip from the Philippines asked me my purpose of the trip.. Told him to relax and play.. he asked play?.. I said yeah, I have a different girl each night for 10 nights and play... He smiled and I walked on... They booted mine up on a couple of occasions but that's all. It's making news recently because Congress is getting involved i think... Good article though.. __________________ Email: [email protected] Skype: davidamodt. / TG: Davidamodt US Adult Content & Porn Writer Project/Sites/Tubes/Reviews & More

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