Questions about starting a partnership solo girl site

[eMonk]

i found a local girl interested in starting her own solo girl site & would like to partner up with me as she has no clue about this online stuff. she wants to split the earnings but how much should she be given? i will be doing everything but modeling. i think a 60/40 split would be fair (60% going to me of course!). she doesn't want me to pay her for your time either. i asked her when we first met if she would have intercourse with me for about 30 mins infront of a camera for $120 or so & she said no. she would much rather start her own solo site with another cock, have me film it & split the earnings. how should we split the earnings?

what about 2257 docs? can i download a template somewhere & fill in the blanks or do we need a get a lawyer?

thx in advance guys, i really want to start shooting my own homegrown amateur stuff!

[CurrentlySober]

If your serious pay her for her time, ie the content that gets shot, and pay the guy she wants to shoot with... and legally own it 100% yourself... Partnerships are shitty

[RobAlbaugh]

agreed with ThatGuy. Its gotta suck though that she turned you down for sex for $120. Thats not even close to half scale. Besides, thread is useless without pics.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well make it a 50/60 and besure to secure the content for yourself in the event the deal breaks apart. Let her be allowed to use the content as well so at least if there is a split the content is of viable use both of you.

My 2Cents.

Splitting 50/50 24.95 per member.

12.50 to webmaster 12.50 to you two.
12.50 per member minus bandwidth and any other agreed deals such as moving 20% of profit's to a re-investment or prop fund and financial charges placed by the processor's.

So you both would see less than $8-9 per member each.
Split that and it comes to roughly 4 per member or so for the both of ya.


My 2 cents. Hope she is hot it could work out. Especially if ya get 4 or 5 girls under one program.

Draw up an agreement have a lawyer look at it, sign off. There are plenty of 2257 Documents to use and also besure to get releases as well on all shoots.

[commonsense]

Split earnings?

Unless you understand for yourself and explain to her that you might not profit for the first 6 months - 1 year of operation, you'll both be in for a rude awakening. If you pay as you go/depend on her to make content as it goes you will fuck over yourself and affiliates but blowing your nut too fast and not having a site with legs.


Shoot a TON of content with her, own it outright (for the day she changes her mind.. and that day WILL come) and hope you make a dime. That's as real as it gets.

[eMonk]

thx for the responses so far.

what about 2257 docs? do i need a lawyer for this?

about her: tall, black, bbw

she's actually a local ero & charges her clients $60 for a 30min session with her, just not on camera.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by eMonk

thx for the responses so far.

what about 2257 docs? do i need a lawyer for this?

about her: tall, black, bbw

she's actually a local ero & charges her clients $60 for a 30min session with her, just not on camera.

BBW and Black no don't do it.
I am not being racist it just the mean cold reality of stat's of what people look for on a popular level. I am saying it's a small niche ya got on your hands. It could work sure but from what I know even black guys prefer a white teen chick over a black one and that shit is just cold blooded to say but it's true.

Don't hate on me for saying it, hate on the black men that prefer white chicks.

Ya need to find a hot Latin teen or White teen for this kind of thing.

[eMonk]

would selling the content prduced to webmasters for their paysites be a better approach? again, what about 2257? lawyer needed?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by eMonk

would selling the content prduced to webmasters for their paysites be a better approach? again, what about 2257? lawyer needed?

That could definatly work.
Split each shoot and sell to 5 or 6 guys $150-$200 per set or so.

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by eMonk

thx for the responses so far.

what about 2257 docs? do i need a lawyer for this?

about her: tall, black, bbw

she's actually a local ero & charges her clients $60 for a 30min session with her, just not on camera.

BBW and black for a solo? No way in hell would I do it. Dude, shes tricking for $60. What makes you think that if you even see a hint of success (dont think you will) that she wont turn on you and want all profits? Did you find this chick on Craigslist?

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by eMonk

would selling the content prduced to webmasters for their paysites be a better approach? again, what about 2257? lawyer needed?

If you can find someone that wants to buy your content, sure. You would still need to maintain 2257 docs on her and anyone else that participates to verify age. Its the law and you would need model releases.

[eMonk]

no, she lives in my sisters buildings.

again, what about 2257 as this is needed when selling content to other webmasters for their sites.

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by eMonk

no, she lives in my sisters buildings.

again, what about 2257 as this is needed when selling content to other webmasters for their sites.

you have to maintain the documents that prove she is over the age of 18. Try googling USC 2257 and read the law. If anyone shoots porn now without reading the requirements, you are plainly asking for jail time.

[RobAlbaugh]

I would have linked it for you but I dont have 30 posts yet.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 110 > § 2257
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§ 2257. Record keeping requirements
How Current is This?
(a) Whoever produces any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, digitally- or computer-manipulated image of an actual human being, picture, or other matter which—
(1) contains one or more visual depictions made after November 1, 1990 of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
(2) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.
(b) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall, with respect to every performer portrayed in a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct—
(1) ascertain, by examination of an identification document containing such information, the performer’s name and date of birth, and require the performer to provide such other indicia of his or her identity as may be prescribed by regulations;
(2) ascertain any name, other than the performer’s present and correct name, ever used by the performer including maiden name, alias, nickname, stage, or professional name; and
(3) record in the records required by subsection (a) the information required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection and such other identifying information as may be prescribed by regulation.
(c) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall maintain the records required by this section at his business premises, or at such other place as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe and shall make such records available to the Attorney General for inspection at all reasonable times.
(d)
(1) No information or evidence obtained from records required to be created or maintained by this section shall, except as provided in this section, directly or indirectly, be used as evidence against any person with respect to any violation of law.
(2) Paragraph (1) of this subsection shall not preclude the use of such information or evidence in a prosecution or other action for a violation of this chapter or chapter 71, or for a violation of any applicable provision of law with respect to the furnishing of false information.
(e)
(1) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall cause to be affixed to every copy of any matter described in paragraph (1) of subsection (a) of this section, in such manner and in such form as the Attorney General shall by regulations prescribe, a statement describing where the records required by this section with respect to all performers depicted in that copy of the matter may be located. In this paragraph, the term “copy” includes every page of a website on which matter described in subsection (a) appears.
(2) If the person to whom subsection (a) of this section applies is an organization the statement required by this subsection shall include the name, title, and business address of the individual employed by such organization responsible for maintaining the records required by this section.
(f) It shall be unlawful—
(1) for any person to whom subsection (a) applies to fail to create or maintain the records as required by subsections (a) and (c) or by any regulation promulgated under this section;
(2) for any person to whom subsection (a) applies knowingly to make any false entry in or knowingly to fail to make an appropriate entry in, any record required by subsection (b) of this section or any regulation promulgated under this section;
(3) for any person to whom subsection (a) applies knowingly to fail to comply with the provisions of subsection (e) or any regulation promulgated pursuant to that subsection;
(4) for any person knowingly to sell or otherwise transfer, or offer for sale or transfer, any book, magazine, periodical, film, video, or other matter, produce in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce or which is intended for shipment in interstate or foreign commerce, which—
(A) contains one or more visual depictions made after the effective date of this subsection of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
(B) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
which does not have affixed thereto, in a manner prescribed as set forth in subsection (e)(1), a statement describing where the records required by this section may be located, but such person shall have no duty to determine the accuracy of the contents of the statement or the records required to be kept; and
(5) for any person to whom subsection (a) applies to refuse to permit the Attorney General or his or her designee to conduct an inspection under subsection (c).
(g) The Attorney General shall issue appropriate regulations to carry out this section.
(h) In this section—
(1) the term “actual sexually explicit conduct” means actual but not simulated conduct as defined in clauses (i) through (v) of section 2256 (2)(A) of this title;
(2) the term “produces”—
(A) means—
(i) actually filming, videotaping, photographing, creating a picture, digital image, or digitally- or computer-manipulated image of an actual human being;
(ii) digitizing an image, of a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or, assembling, manufacturing, publishing, duplicating, reproducing, or reissuing a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution, that contains a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or
(iii) inserting on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise managing the sexually explicit content,[1] of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, sexually explicit conduct; and
(B) does not include activities that are limited to—
(i) photo or film processing, including digitization of previously existing visual depictions, as part of a commercial enterprise, with no other commercial interest in the sexually explicit material, printing, and video duplication;
(ii) distribution;
(iii) any activity, other than those activities identified in subparagraph (A), that does not involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the depicted performers;
(iv) the provision of a telecommunications service, or of an Internet access service or Internet information location tool (as those terms are defined in section 231 of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 231)); or
(v) the transmission, storage, retrieval, hosting, formatting, or translation (or any combination thereof) of a communication, without selection or alteration of the content of the communication, except that deletion of a particular communication or material made by another person in a manner consistent with section 230(c) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 230 (c)) shall not constitute such selection or alteration of the content of the communication; and
(3) the term “performer” includes any person portrayed in a visual depiction engaging in, or assisting another person to engage in, sexually explicit conduct.
(i) Whoever violates this section shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, and fined in accordance with the provisions of this title, or both. Whoever violates this section after having been convicted of a violation punishable under this section shall be imprisoned for any period of years not more than 10 years but not less than 2 years, and fined in accordance with the provisions of this title, or both.

[eMonk]

yes i know i need 2257 docs but how do i create them? is there a template i can print out & fillout or do i need to hire a lawyer for this?

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by eMonk

yes i know i need 2257 docs but how do i create them? is there a template i can print out & fillout or do i need to hire a lawyer for this?

there is software out there that can provide input boxes for you to enter your information but to my knowledge, there is no standard template for recording information. Thats why you were referred to speak with an attorney. Or buy one of those software solutions to do it for you.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by eMonk

yes i know i need 2257 docs but how do i create them? is there a template i can print out & fillout or do i need to hire a lawyer for this?

Model release, (preferred to get a lawyer to draw this up) close up photo of her face, photo of her holding her ID in a separate picture. Preferred scanned copy of her ID, or a good legible close up showing all her info. Should be state or federal issued id. Get copies of any other ids if you can she may have to cya, but these do not go in with the 2257 package. These are simply to cover your ass, but I doubt you will get the feds knocking on your door for a tall black bbw. Best advice is find an adult law attorney and seek out his counsel. www.ChadKnowsLaw.com is a good one.

[tony286]

partnership equals pain.

[RobAlbaugh]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Model release, (preferred to get a lawyer to draw this up) close up photo of her face, photo of her holding her ID in a separate picture. Preferred scanned copy of her ID, or a good legible close up showing all her info. Should be state or federal issued id. Get copies of any other ids if you can she may have to cya, but these do not go in with the 2257 package. These are simply to cover your ass, but I doubt you will get the feds knocking on your door for a tall black bbw. Best advice is find an adult law attorney and seek out his counsel.

Thats not always true though. If they wanted to pop him on record keeping, they would come knocking. Thus far, thats what all the major searches have turned up, improper record keeping.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by tony404

partnership equals pain.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by RobAlbaugh

Thats not always true though. If they wanted to pop him on record keeping, they would come knocking. Thus far, thats what all the major searches have turned up, improper record keeping.

They aren't currently even doing inspections after the 6th court decision. 2257 was ruled unconstitutional. So for us (we are in a state covered by the sixth court) we are not currently even able to be inspected as its been ruled out. The government does have an appeal of sorts underway, but that will be a ways off before there is a decision on it, and frankly I think they will be struck down again. And besides I told him roughly what he needs. The odds of a single site that has no hint of being underage getting inspected is frankly not going to happen. If he sells it, he needs to include the docs and items I mentioned above.

[eMonk]

so you recommend sending all of the talents i find to a adult law attorney to do the model release + 2257? sounds like a pain in the ass to me. buying software & inputting data seems more practical.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by eMonk

so you recommend sending all of the talents i find to a adult law attorney to do the model release + 2257? sounds like a pain in the ass to me. buying software & inputting data seems more practical.

No just get your company model release done up, or at least read over by an attorney. The talent doesn't need to go see him.

[eMonk]

to clarify, model release = 2257 correct?

[CurrentlySober]

May be of use:

Adult Release for 2257

[Linguist]

It sounds like she has too many illusions about making money on the internet. She will lose any and all interest after 2 months of not seeing the cash and you will be in red... especially since she is black and chubby. Can you at least post some pics for the rest of gfy to see if she has any potential? ... but if she charges $60 for 30 mins then I don't think there's much potential to be honest... local half decent hookers charge a lot more than this.

[eMonk]

yeah, i'm thinking more along the lines of selling the content to other webmasters to use on their paysites.

when she asked for a 50/50 split i knew something was up (and no, it wasn't my penis lol!)

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by eMonk

to clarify, model release = 2257 correct?

You need to talk to a lawyer. Gfy might give you some advice, but get an attorney.

[eMonk]

what about male talents, do they need to sign 2257 docs aswell?

[Jim_Gunn]

This thread is is cringe worthy.

[eMonk]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner

May be of use:

Adult Release for 2257

thx, this is what i was looking for!

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by eMonk

what about male talents, do they need to sign 2257 docs aswell?

Think that one out.

[eMonk]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Think that one out.

[MandyBlake]

don't partner. its a pain in the tush.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by eMonk

she has no clue about this online stuff.

That makes two of you.


Honestly, a black BBW escort who lives in your sisters building has "bad news" written all over it. Hookers are usually the worst to work with long term and FOR SURE she is going to change her mind on you.

If you don't pay her outright and own it all, you're asking for drama.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by eMonk

what about male talents, do they need to sign 2257 docs aswell?

Only if they are black.


















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