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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #1

    The $500 site project - update

    As some of you might remember, I posted a few days ago that I had quit playing MMORPGs and was planning to start a site to fill up my newly gained time, and find out how hard it would be to start from scratch today with a minimal budget and limited time.

    I've been doing a bit of planning, and have finally decided to go with a small network rather than a single site. Below is the basic outline of my current plan. Some details are omitted, of course, since I have nothing to gain by giving away marketing strategies.

    Sites:
    -main site (hybrid, includes blog, tgp, and some other things)
    -4 blogs
    -1 toplist
    -1 fake tgp

    Numbers aren't set in stone, of course. What works gets scaled up, what doesn't work gets killed off.

    The hybrid site will be the hub of the network. It's intended to gain bookmarkers and SE rankings. Content will be high quality, being surfer friendly is the main goal. Will be a great timesink with few noticeable results in the first 6 months. Replaces World of Warcraft

    The blogs are intended to bring SE traffic and quality traded traffic into the network. Each will, at the start, get 2 high quality posts a week. Results in the first few months aren't likely, after that the search engines should start picking up some posts. These replace Eve Online.

    The toplist is intended to distribute traffic through the network and exchange some stale traffic for fresh traffic. Replaces LOTRO (did I mention yet that I used to be a complete gaming addict?)

    The fake TGP is intended to bring fresh low quality traded traffic into the network, and maybe make some sales from sponsor galleries. Once I find a design that gets decent prod, it will get a few thousand bought hits a day to keep volume up.


    Since it has so far been way more fun than I expected, I might cheat a little and add some extra budget, as well as some of my own traffic. I'll make sure to stay within reasonable limits of what someone who was completely new in this industry could do, though.

    I'll give another update when everything's up and running
    /(bb|[^b]{2})/
  • TyroneGoldberg
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2007
    • 1081

    #2
    I heard it all before.

    I'm like that single mom with 4 kids and the man is saying............

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    • BV
      wtf
      • Sep 2001
      • 10914

      #3
      i like threads like this, i think they really help some new affiliates just starting out and give them some guidance, which in turn will be great for the sponsors

      i wish every new webmaster did something like this (instead of trying to scam a quick easy buck)

      thumbsup

      Cheers,
      BV

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      • Sands
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2007
        • 3134

        #4
        Sounds like a fun project. Good luck on it, and hopefully it will be a more lucrative use of your time.

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        • Trixie
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 1850

          #5
          Good luck -- looking forward to seeing/hearing about the fruits of your labor.
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          • Manowar
            jellyfish  
            • Dec 2003
            • 71528

            #6
            Originally posted by Sands
            Sounds like a fun project. Good luck on it, and hopefully it will be a more lucrative use of your time.
            Anything is lucrative compared to paying $10 to play a video game


            I say, as I boot up WoW and wait for WotLK

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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #7
              Originally posted by Libertine
              Since it has so far been way more fun than I expected, I might cheat a little and add some extra budget, as well as some of my own traffic.
              please don't

              ok, feel free to add budget, but don't use any of your existing traffic sources or in that case this experiment is pointless

              most people starting can have some small budget to start, but noone has already existic traffic so it's either bought or gotten for free from scratch...
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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              • CurrentlySober
                Too lazy to wipe my ass
                • Aug 2002
                • 38956

                #8
                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                please don't

                ok, feel free to add budget, but don't use any of your existing traffic sources or in that case this experiment is pointless

                most people starting can have some small budget to start, but noone has already existic traffic so it's either bought or gotten for free from scratch...
                What he said.


                👁️ 👍️ 💩

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                • Libertine
                  sex dwarf
                  • May 2002
                  • 17860

                  #9
                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                  please don't

                  ok, feel free to add budget, but don't use any of your existing traffic sources or in that case this experiment is pointless

                  most people starting can have some small budget to start, but noone has already existic traffic so it's either bought or gotten for free from scratch...
                  Yeah, I suppose you're right. No point in testing it if I'm gonna skew the odds in my favor.

                  I'll keep the budget under $1000, and won't feed the project any traffic, mailings or hardlinks. I'll even refrain from using that old domain that would have been perfect for this project
                  /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                  • IllTestYourGirls
                    Ah My Balls
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 14311

                    #10
                    but you still know all your old tricks so you already know what works and what not. so you should go get your memory erased as well. lets make this real! haha jk. This should be a good thread.

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                    • Miguel T
                      ♦ Web Developer ♦
                      • May 2005
                      • 12473

                      #11
                      Good luck on that project of yours.
                      I am busy doing something like that, but a bit bigger, into 4 different niches.
                      Hope it works out well.

                      Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

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                      • Tat2Jr
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 4882

                        #12
                        Bump for the RARE good post on GFY. Keep us posted on your results.

                        BTW - if you start jonesing for some MMORPG action try smoking a couple bowls of crack. I hear it's less addicting. ;)
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                        • Nishville
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 284

                          #13
                          Good job on quitting MMO's. I wish you all the best dude. And keep up the good work.

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                          • XXXEscorts
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Libertine
                            As some of you might remember, I posted a few days ago that I had quit playing MMORPGs and was planning to start a site to fill up my newly gained time, and find out how hard it would be to start from scratch today with a minimal budget and limited time.

                            I've been doing a bit of planning, and have finally decided to go with a small network rather than a single site. Below is the basic outline of my current plan. Some details are omitted, of course, since I have nothing to gain by giving away marketing strategies.

                            Sites:
                            -main site (hybrid, includes blog, tgp, and some other things)
                            -4 blogs
                            -1 toplist
                            -1 fake tgp

                            Numbers aren't set in stone, of course. What works gets scaled up, what doesn't work gets killed off.

                            The hybrid site will be the hub of the network. It's intended to gain bookmarkers and SE rankings. Content will be high quality, being surfer friendly is the main goal. Will be a great timesink with few noticeable results in the first 6 months. Replaces World of Warcraft

                            The blogs are intended to bring SE traffic and quality traded traffic into the network. Each will, at the start, get 2 high quality posts a week. Results in the first few months aren't likely, after that the search engines should start picking up some posts. These replace Eve Online.

                            The toplist is intended to distribute traffic through the network and exchange some stale traffic for fresh traffic. Replaces LOTRO (did I mention yet that I used to be a complete gaming addict?)

                            The fake TGP is intended to bring fresh low quality traded traffic into the network, and maybe make some sales from sponsor galleries. Once I find a design that gets decent prod, it will get a few thousand bought hits a day to keep volume up.


                            Since it has so far been way more fun than I expected, I might cheat a little and add some extra budget, as well as some of my own traffic. I'll make sure to stay within reasonable limits of what someone who was completely new in this industry could do, though.

                            I'll give another update when everything's up and running
                            If you want it to be realistic I don't think you should throw in your own traffic and I don't think you should use connections or your personal knowledge of what sponsors work. Remember that newbies will pick shitty sponsors and will not be able to trade with a lot of people because they don't have any contacts and have no idea how to interpret their traffic logs, click thrus, etc. In fact to make it more realistic you should purposely do some things wrong to balance out all the things you will do right just because of your experience...or get your memory erased as the other poster suggested ;)

                            I like threads like these (I know I just registered but I've been reading GFY since 2003) but they never accurately reflect what a true newbie could do.

                            -Mindy
                            Last edited by XXXEscorts; 08-09-2008, 08:17 PM.

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                            • nico-t
                              emperor of my world
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 29903

                              #15
                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                              please don't

                              ok, feel free to add budget, but don't use any of your existing traffic sources or in that case this experiment is pointless

                              most people starting can have some small budget to start, but noone has already existic traffic so it's either bought or gotten for free from scratch...
                              ....i agree

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                              • Libertine
                                sex dwarf
                                • May 2002
                                • 17860

                                #16
                                Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                but you still know all your old tricks so you already know what works and what not. so you should go get your memory erased as well. lets make this real! haha jk. This should be a good thread.
                                Well, I started in '98, and my first ventures in adult basically consisted of "freesite freesite freesite freesite freesite hub freesite freesite freesite freesite freesite cj freesite freesite freesite freesite freesite linklist freesite freesite freesite freesite freesite" etc.

                                In the past few years, my work in adult has pretty much been limited to managing a few existing sites. Meanwhile, I made most of my money with a few mainstream companies. Right now, the real project I'm working on is "cutting out the middle man" for a fairly large mainstream affiliate program I own part of. And yes, "cutting out the middle man" means taking over the market share of affiliates I've had drinks with. In case you're wondering - I do go to bed feeling like Lucifer.

                                But back on topic, most of my knowledge doesn't apply to the adult industry in its current state. So, it's actually almost as if was an actual noob.
                                /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                                • seeandsee
                                  Check SIG!
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 50945

                                  #17
                                  Good luck with project!
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                                  • XXXEscorts
                                    Registered User
                                    • Aug 2008
                                    • 21

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Libertine
                                    In case you're wondering - I do go to bed feeling like Lucifer.
                                    We'll go to hell together baby ;)

                                    looking forward to you completing this...so many of these threads never complete

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                                    • Libertine
                                      sex dwarf
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 17860

                                      #19
                                      Well, I've got one of the sites mostly up now. Still trying to find decent domains for the others.
                                      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                                      • GAMEFINEST
                                        Make STACK$
                                        • Nov 2006
                                        • 14478

                                        #20
                                        what niches are these?
                                        Compound interest.

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                                        • Libertine
                                          sex dwarf
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 17860

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                                          what niches are these?
                                          That's one of the details I'm omitting
                                          /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                                          • Nicky
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 30071

                                            #22
                                            Nice, hit me up when the blogs are on their way and we make some trades .

                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                            • Jakez
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 5656

                                              #23
                                              So how is this going?
                                              [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400

                                              Killuminati

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                                              • Nicky
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 30071

                                                #24
                                                toe da top

                                                gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 40377

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Nicky
                                                  toe da top
                                                  wait till someone bumps your "blog project" thread toe da top
                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                  • Ozarkz
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jan 2009
                                                    • 2377

                                                    #26
                                                    I'm lucky I've never had any interest in games.

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                                                    • Loch
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 7674

                                                      #27
                                                      Cant believe you gave up EVE,

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                                                      • JamesK
                                                        hi
                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                        • 16731

                                                        #28
                                                        I bet he's back to playing MMO's again
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                                                        • Jdoughs
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 5794

                                                          #29
                                                          See you at Ulduar tonite!

                                                          On another note, you SHOULD use everything you have learned, but explain it in simple terms.

                                                          Then its of great value to someone who needs to make a plan like this work. And allthough they may not have the same resources, they can see what you did and try to emulate it.
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                                                          • Nicky
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30071

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                            wait till someone bumps your "blog project" thread toe da top


                                                            fuck, you just reminded me I actually have it, maybe I should start a new one?

                                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                            • Jakez
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 5656

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Nicky
                                                              maybe I should start a new one?
                                                              That always works.
                                                              [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400

                                                              Killuminati

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                                                              • rob04
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                • 150

                                                                #32
                                                                Time to hop online! Patch 3.1 tonight!!!!

                                                                As a veteran wow player you know that means you really won't be able to play for another week as they work out all the kinks.

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                                                                • HookUPcom
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Sep 2008
                                                                  • 1235

                                                                  #33
                                                                  great post... I look forward to hearing more.

                                                                  J.
                                                                  icq: 364-320-971

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                                                                  • Iron Fist
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                    • 23400

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hahaha.... see? PROOF that there is no money in porn.
                                                                    i like waffles

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                                                                    • Nicky
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 30071

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                      Hahaha.... see? PROOF that there is no money in porn.
                                                                      True, everyone doing porn should jump it now.

                                                                      gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                      • JamesK
                                                                        hi
                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                        • 16731

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by rob04
                                                                        Time to hop online! Patch 3.1 tonight!!!!
                                                                        Excellent, shadowpriests got buffed
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                                                                        • Carmine Raguso
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                          • 2158

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by JamesK
                                                                          Excellent, shadowpriests got buffed
                                                                          They took it down for emergency maintenance... ugh

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                                                                          • Davy
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                                            • 4323

                                                                            #38
                                                                            This thread is useless without posting your experience in adult.
                                                                            ---
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                                                                            • Libertine
                                                                              sex dwarf
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 17860

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Jakez
                                                                              So how is this going?
                                                                              Let's put it this way: if I really had to start from scratch to make a good living, adult would not be my industry of choice. Or even in the top 10 on my list, for that matter.

                                                                              On the bright side, I did find out about a program that was perfectly willing to fuck over what they thought was a new guy, not realizing what my actual business account was. That was entertaining enough to make it worth it
                                                                              /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                                                                              • JamesK
                                                                                hi
                                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                                • 16731

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Carmine Raguso
                                                                                They took it down for emergency maintenance... ugh
                                                                                fuck, I was just done installing the patch
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