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Old 08-08-2008, 09:45 AM   #1
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List of NON-PAID TGPs

I can't believe there are so many TGPs going paid submissions only considering that (1)N TGP traffic basically SUCKS, and (2) they use the content of their partners/submitters and thus don't have to take on the expense of buying it. Ironically, the Hun, a TGP that dwarfs all the wannabes, accepts open submissions and explicitly says

Without people submitting I would have nothing to link to, so I don't think it's fair that I use your bandwidth and demand a reciprocal as well.

So, if open submissions is good enough for the best, then why isn't it good for the rest?

Does anyone have a list of TGPs (who can deliver at least 100 hits a day) that accept NON-PAID submissions? I am getting tired of looking for the needle in the haystack.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:47 AM   #2
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I had to do all that research on my own. Took a few years to build a nice submit list.

If you think anyone is going to give that info up for free, you're nuts.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:59 AM   #3
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Start your own tgp and submit there, I'm serious, long term you will make a zillion times more with your own tgp.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:00 AM   #4
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I had to do all that research on my own. Took a few years to build a nice submit list.

If you think anyone is going to give that info up for free, you're nuts.
What he said.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:06 AM   #5
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I had to do all that research on my own. Took a few years to build a nice submit list.

If you think anyone is going to give that info up for free, you're nuts.
There's that HELPFUL spirit. Considering that you lose nothing by sharing the info, I think that is a pretty fucking selfish attitude to have.

Besides, don't you use a fucking auto-submitter?
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:09 AM   #6
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What he said.
Whatever, dude. Thanks for the fucking bump anyway!
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:09 AM   #7
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I can see why TGP sites dont take free submissions if they are not doing other types of advertising. why would i want to give away free traffic

i do have a few TPGs that I am finishing up new designs for. if you want to do some trades hit me up
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:11 AM   #8
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There's that HELPFUL spirit. Considering that you lose nothing by sharing the info, I think that is a pretty fucking selfish attitude to have.
You're competition for him. Why would he help you compete with him more effectively?

You have an irrational obsession with TGPs. You'd make a lot more money elsewhere. Let it go.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:11 AM   #9
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a lot of mgps allow free partner accounts as long as you have hq galleries
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:31 AM   #10
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Besides, don't you use a fucking auto-submitter?
one does not exclude the other....
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:34 AM   #11
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You guys miss the point on accepting submissions - you do it for the linkback and the inbound link rankings.... keep in mind galleries usually have multiple recips... 2 or 3 so it's all crosslinked with you site as well.

This is a good thing people!

Of course like people have already mentioned, this is a major traffic leak as well... but it is what it is.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:21 AM   #12
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I can see why TGP sites dont take free submissions if they are not doing other types of advertising. why would i want to give away free traffic
But they ARE doing other types of advertising. On the other hand, I guess you can't blame them if they take money from people willing to pay it. TGP business must be good.

I guess it is time to start looking for alternative sources of traffic. it didn't use to be this hard.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:25 AM   #13
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You're competition for him. Why would he help you compete with him more effectively?

You have an irrational obsession with TGPs. You'd make a lot more money elsewhere. Let it go.
Actually, no I don't, but I already know how to work the other traffic sources. TGPs are something I never really got into and it is certainly NOT going to be my principle means of traffic. I have a ton of BW to use up this month and will never use it all just submitting to SEs.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:27 AM   #14
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Actually, no I don't, but I already know how to work the other traffic sources. TGPs are something I never really got into and it is certainly NOT going to be my principle means of traffic. I have a ton of BW to use up this month and will never use it all just submitting to SEs.
Whatever you want to do. You missed the boat on TGPs but go ahead and knock yourself out.
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There's that HELPFUL spirit. Considering that you lose nothing by sharing the info, I think that is a pretty fucking selfish attitude to have.

Besides, don't you use a fucking auto-submitter?
This is business, not helping hands. If I clue you in, that means potentially less traffic for me.

And, I do use an autosubmitter, but it's database has been culled and added to by myself over the years...from info and trial and error that I've spent my time and money on. Anyone who'd give you what you're looking for for nothing is a moron, so I wouldn't trust that info to be all that accurate.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:28 PM   #16
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But they ARE doing other types of advertising. On the other hand, I guess you can't blame them if they take money from people willing to pay it. TGP business must be good.

I guess it is time to start looking for alternative sources of traffic. it didn't use to be this hard.
I think the problem is everyone is getting greedy now. everyone wants to sell hard links to partner accounts... next will be a price tag to trade traffic (hmmm... idea haha)

seriously tho, ill glady trade partner accounts with anyone on my sites if they are willing to do the same. i moved away from the reciep link because tools like chameleon submitter allow you to make galleries for EACH tgp. its worthless to have a reciep to my own TGP if that gallery is only being shown on my site
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