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Old 08-07-2008, 09:20 AM   #1
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Chameleon Submitter Q&A

I have some questions before I decide to use this. Answer the questions and I will sign up via your affiliate link.

They offer four different programs, a TGP submitter, a link list Submitter, and a partner account requester. Do any of these programs overlap or include the others? In other words, doe the account requester also include the TGP submitter? If not, then why is it billed monthly? Seems to me that you should only request a partner account once.

What kind of results in terms of hits and traffic should you expect? What about conversions?

How many hits per gallery do you get using this program and what was your conversion ration? (I know these things vary but that is not the answer I am looking for.)
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:14 AM   #2
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:17 AM   #3
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TGP submitter, a link list Submitter, and a partner account requester

You need PA to submit to some places: partner account requester

You make tgp/fs: TGP submitter, a link list Submitter

you need to confirm: confirmer

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Old 08-07-2008, 10:20 AM   #4
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None of the programs share tasks at all.

Without established partner accounts you won't see any appreciable traffic. You will, without a doubt, lose money trying to submit galleries. Figure in the cost of chameleon, hosting and content and you will not make money.

Don't bother trying to submit galleries on a free host using sponsor content. Lots of newbies think they can do that and it never turns out well for them.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:25 AM   #5
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None of the programs share tasks at all.

Without established partner accounts you won't see any appreciable traffic. You will, without a doubt, lose money trying to submit galleries. Figure in the cost of chameleon, hosting and content and you will not make money.

Don't bother trying to submit galleries on a free host using sponsor content. Lots of newbies think they can do that and it never turns out well for them.
i wonder how many people buy chameleon submitter and crank it full of FHGs. when i used to run a few TGPs back about 2-3 years ago, i would get a LOT of people submitting FHG links
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:29 AM   #6
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i wonder how many people buy chameleon submitter and crank it full of FHGs. when i used to run a few TGPs back about 2-3 years ago, i would get a LOT of people submitting FHG links
I still see a lot of people trying to submit fhgs or fhgs they downloaded and uploaded to their server.

Then there are the idiots who use arles and try to hack together a gallery using sponsor content. I feel bad for them. They have to realize nobody with any traffic is going to list them with that overused, watermarked content.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:44 AM   #7
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None of the programs share tasks at all.

Without established partner accounts you won't see any appreciable traffic. You will, without a doubt, lose money trying to submit galleries. Figure in the cost of chameleon, hosting and content and you will not make money.

Don't bother trying to submit galleries on a free host using sponsor content. Lots of newbies think they can do that and it never turns out well for them.
If what you say is true, and I am tempted to believe it since I always HATED TGPs, then why do they still exist? Moreover, why are they now starting to make even more money by selling galleries? If everybody was losing money on TGPs, then nobody would be willing to pay all the extra associated costs, like this program, for example. SOMEONE is making money with galleries or none of this would be happening.

RE: the free host/sponsor content thing ... I am not THAT green.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:54 AM   #8
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I still see a lot of people trying to submit fhgs or fhgs they downloaded and uploaded to their server.

Then there are the idiots who use arles and try to hack together a gallery using sponsor content. I feel bad for them. They have to realize nobody with any traffic is going to list them with that overused, watermarked content.
It goes two ways though. I agree that there are lots of really cheap newbie webmasters who don't want to invest a dime in their business, but can you blame them when you look at some of these rules that TGPs have now?

(1) You have to pay $$ for a gallery on this TGP.
(2) If I like it, I'll list it. If I don't, no refunds.
(3) You have to have a partner account and that will cost you more.
(4) In addition to the fee, you must have a large reciprocal link at the top of your gallery.
(5) You can only have ONE sponsor link and that has to be at the bottom of your gallery in no higher than a number 2 font, with no bold or italics. Preferably the color of the link should be the same as the color of your background.
(6) If someone should find and click on your sponsor link, there can't be anything I don't like on those pages.
(7) If you violate any of these rules, even by mistake, I will track you down and murder your entire family and then blacklist you for eternity and tell all my friends.

And people wonder why nobody, except the TGP owner, makes $$ with galleries.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:55 AM   #9
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What about the link list submitter? Is that a worthwhile tool to have? Does it auto-generate recip links/pages?
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:57 PM   #10
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