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  • MoreMagic
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2006
    • 2851

    #1

    Hosting companies come in for some drama.

    Webair, Way3, Phatservers, Hosthead, Isprime, NationalNet, Softlayer, Addora and Caro

    Why are you guys not responding on my thread here, you don't want my bizz?
    I need those offers in tha thread and not personal. Just call your price!
  • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
    North Coast Pimp
    • Dec 2005
    • 9395

    #2
    Great thread...

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    • Klen
      • Aug 2006
      • 32235

      #3
      Could be beacuse you need custom configuration which could require toomuch work to make it

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      • IhostSEO
        Registered User
        • Nov 2007
        • 86

        #4
        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
        Could be beacuse you need custom configuration which could require toomuch work to make it
        Hit on the nail ... aside that setting up one IP per class C is more work... and that in no way would we do that for $1.00 per Ip.... not even $2.00 ...
        Multiple Dedicated Class C Ip's
        Multiple Name Servers in different Data Centers
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        • baddog
          So Fucking Banned
          • Apr 2001
          • 107089

          #5
          Most hosting companies do not want to deal with your request. Especially the 1 IP per C. That we will do all day long on virtual servers, but keeping track of your request on a dedicated plan would be a nightmare.

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          • MoreMagic
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2006
            • 2851

            #6
            Lucky enough we have

            Pacificrack,
            Righthosting and yes even
            Webair that do it.

            LOL with the right price its almost a guaranteed order.

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            • Way3
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2007
              • 1727

              #7
              We certainly would like your business, but for right now, the IP request is a deal killer for us. Sorry!

              FULLY Managed! FREE Control Panel! FREE Month on ALL Shared Accounts!!!
              ICQ: 169-554-261
              Email: info[at]way3{dot}com

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              • tranza
                ICQ: 197-556-237
                • Jun 2003
                • 57559

                #8
                Useless post.............
                I'm just a newbie.

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                • Snake Doctor
                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 13449

                  #9
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  Most hosting companies do not want to deal with your request. Especially the 1 IP per C. That we will do all day long on virtual servers, but keeping track of your request on a dedicated plan would be a nightmare.
                  Would you explain to me why it's harder to do that on a dedicated server as opposed to a virtual?
                  You've mentioned that on here before.
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                  • Iron Fist
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 23400

                    #10
                    There's supposed to be drama here right? Can someone point me in the right direction?
                    i like waffles

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                      Would you explain to me why it's harder to do that on a dedicated server as opposed to a virtual?
                      You've mentioned that on here before.
                      Record keeping primarily.

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                      • MoreMagic
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 2851

                        #12
                        Did I ask you to come ;)

                        Originally posted by sharphead
                        There's supposed to be drama here right? Can someone point me in the right direction?

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                        • MoreMagic
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2851

                          #13
                          Nobody asked you to be here to

                          Originally posted by tranza
                          Useless post.............

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                          • Iron Fist
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 23400

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MoreMagic
                            Did I ask you to come ;)
                            Yes you did I'm attracted to fake drama!
                            i like waffles

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                            • Snake Doctor
                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 13449

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              Record keeping primarily.
                              If I have a virtual account aren't all of my domains on one server then as well? So the difference is I'm either the only one on the server or I'm not....how does that change the assignment of IP's?

                              Not trying to start shit, just trying to understand.....because while I like the idea of one IP per C, I don't like the idea of shared hosting.
                              sig too big

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                              • d-null
                                . . .
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 13724

                                #16
                                Originally posted by baddog
                                Record keeping primarily.
                                can you expand on that a bit? curious...

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                                • GrouchyAdmin
                                  Now choke yourself!
                                  • Apr 2006
                                  • 12085

                                  #17
                                  I asked my bank for $5.00 in change, but I wanted each penny from a different roll. They said no. FUCK YOU BANK!

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                                  • Snake Doctor
                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 13449

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                    I asked my bank for $5.00 in change, but I wanted each penny from a different roll. They said no. FUCK YOU BANK!
                                    That's a ridiculous analogy.

                                    First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

                                    Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.
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                                    • GrouchyAdmin
                                      Now choke yourself!
                                      • Apr 2006
                                      • 12085

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                      That's a ridiculous analogy.

                                      First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

                                      Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.
                                      You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

                                      It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

                                      In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.

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                                      • MoreMagic
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 2851

                                        #20
                                        Ohh you pretend to be a hosting company Its all relative, for me it;s drama for you, not a hosting company, it's not ;)

                                        Originally posted by sharphead
                                        Yes you did I'm attracted to fake drama!

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                                        • Snake Doctor
                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 13449

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                          You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

                                          It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

                                          In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.
                                          In this particular case, we're talking about a "bank" whose entire niche is giving people a penny from each roll. They advertise that they give away pennies from each roll, and in fact the only reason to choose this bank over any other bank is the fact that you need pennies from different rolls.

                                          So all I'm asking is why can I have a penny from each roll if I share a safety deposit box with 10 other people, but I can't have a penny from each roll if I want my own safety deposit box?
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                                          • MoreMagic
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2006
                                            • 2851

                                            #22
                                            Bull, and i can tell you the providers I already use do have a special rack for it.

                                            With you idea gotwebhost doesn't have any market also he really must not have 1 client

                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                            You're trying to support your own viewpoint, but you're doing so in exactly the form I was attempting to illustrate.

                                            It does nothing for the bank, or the provider, to pander to someone who wants something super-custom right out of the gate, unless you're talking enough money to make it viable for not only your netengs, but the NOC to support it. A bank would be far more willing to inconvenience one of their employees to keep a customer happy than a hosting provider screwing up their internal topology - it's a hell of a lot easier to rewrap pennies.

                                            In this case, as I stated, it's like asking for a penny from every till, or every roll. Unless this customer will offset the cost of their request, there's absolutely no point for the provider to even entertain the offer.

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                                            • baddog
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 107089

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                              That's a ridiculous analogy.

                                              First of all, if you were willing to pay enough for them to do that, I'm sure they would accomodate you.

                                              Second, there's no benefit to you getting change that way, there is a benefit to customers having IP's allocated a certain way.
                                              Not all that ridiculous. Take it one step further. If you have dozens of people making the same request and when they are done with that penny it has to go back to the same roll.

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                                              • baddog
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MoreMagic

                                                With you idea gotwebhost doesn't have any market also he really must not have 1 client
                                                Yeah, you got me.

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                                                • LBBV
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 936

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MoreMagic
                                                  Webair, Way3, Phatservers, Hosthead, Isprime, NationalNet, Softlayer, Addora and Caro

                                                  Why are you guys not responding on my thread here, you don't want my bizz?
                                                  I need those offers in tha thread and not personal. Just call your price!
                                                  Hi there,

                                                  One thing you will rarely find NationalNet doing is jumping into hosting threads. The only reason that I am even posting in this one is because you called us out by name here. In the past we have had some resellers who would jump into these threads but as a general rule, that is not really our style. We prefer to keep customer/vendor communications a bit more private so if you would like to contact me at sales AT nationalnet DOT com we can talk

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                                                  • baddog
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 107089

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                    If I have a virtual account aren't all of my domains on one server then as well? So the difference is I'm either the only one on the server or I'm not....how does that change the assignment of IP's?

                                                    Not trying to start shit, just trying to understand.....because while I like the idea of one IP per C, I don't like the idea of shared hosting.
                                                    Because a virtual server already has the IP's designated to it, whether someone is using them or not. A virtual server may be a virtual to you, but it is a dedicated to us, with the minimum number of IP's per C assigned to it.

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