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Old 08-07-2008, 03:25 AM   #1
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Do Revshare whales exist in anymore?

.. or is everyone with serious traffic PPS only?
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:36 AM   #2
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Fucking typo in the thread title, hopefully its still understandable
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:08 AM   #3
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did you think before writing this?

there are lots of sites that rebill like a mofo, anyone with lots of traffic can do the math to know they would make more off revshare then PPS, in certain cases.

these programs doing all these 100$ payouts per join will soon be gone, once visa catches up to them and their shit business practices.
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:33 AM   #4
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"once visa catches up to them and their shit business practices."

Money money money...
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:43 AM   #5
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I think they still do, but only on the proper programs

like www.sapphiccash.com or FtvGirls.com will have huge whales, but only because they don't offer PPS, although I'm sure with the right site the huge players will know which option will make them more money and on sites like that it's probably revshare in the long run
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:47 AM   #6
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did you think before writing this?

there are lots of sites that rebill like a mofo, anyone with lots of traffic can do the math to know they would make more off revshare then PPS, in certain cases.

these programs doing all these 100$ payouts per join will soon be gone, once visa catches up to them and their shit business practices.


Did YOU think before writing this? What you are saying is possibly correct in theory, but has NOTHING to do with the question.


Are there still whales that send heavy to revshare, and to be more specific revshare membership sites?
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:53 AM   #7
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I think they still do, but only on the proper programs

like www.sapphiccash.com or FtvGirls.com will have huge whales, but only because they don't offer PPS, although I'm sure with the right site the huge players will know which option will make them more money and on sites like that it's probably revshare in the long run

Plenty of good sites are revshare only, but that doesn't mean they are getting any traffic or sales. Wondering if a "good" site even matters anymore, and that monetizing members through rebills is a dying business. Every old school program is rebranding with their own "new" $50 PPS bling bling cross sale program with the same ancient DVD ripped content, and it looks like affiliates eat this crap up all day long.


Few are selling the actual content, and it doesn't look like "whales" do revshare at all.
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:05 AM   #8
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were on revshare and ive had a few aff asking bout pps in over 5 yrs

60% of euro signups doing close to $45 is a lot better on revshare and were not the only one doing that
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:06 AM   #9
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Plenty of good sites are revshare only, but that doesn't mean they are getting any traffic or sales. Wondering if a "good" site even matters anymore, and that monetizing members through rebills is a dying business. Every old school program is rebranding with their own "new" $50 PPS bling bling cross sale program with the same ancient DVD ripped content, and it looks like affiliates eat this crap up all day long.


Few are selling the actual content, and it doesn't look like "whales" do revshare at all.
Yea true, most of these sites doing the high payouts are doing them with all the pre checked cross sales and so on. The motto of the day is fuck them as hard and as fast as you can and who cares if they rebill.
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:19 AM   #10
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commonsense,

Here is the dilemma - For an affiliate to become a 'whale', he found what worked for him and then replicated it X amount of times. To do that, 99% of the time, he's invested time, money and perhaps taken on additional recurring monthly costs such as employees. Normally, (unless they had the capital to start) they would go for the PPS model because it will help them meet their monthly obligations 'faster'. The problem with that model, from an affiliate's standpoint - is you keep having to replenish every one of those members/sales month after month. On the other side, the problem with a Revshare model for them is that the income is between 50-75% less to begin with and monetizing is basically deferred to a later date - with the possibility that 'it may never monetize' like it would have had they opted for PPS.

Basically, with the history on processors going bust, companies shutting down out of the blue, people deciding to cut the 'Revshare' affiliates out of their money down the line, affiliates see PPS as more secure and beneficial to them in order to get their money fast and they'll worry about finding new sales next month.

For the record, since I've been working for companies in this business, I've met few whales that chose the Revshare over PPS model.
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:24 AM   #11
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If it means anything, sometimes potential affiliates check out my sites, tell me they are the best they've seen in the niche and say they must rebill like crazy ... then immediately ask "do you have pps?"
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Old 08-07-2008, 06:27 AM   #12
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Define Whale.....
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:03 PM   #13
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Over 10 full price joins a day to a single site. That would be a whale
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:45 PM   #14
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If it means anything, sometimes potential affiliates check out my sites, tell me they are the best they've seen in the niche and say they must rebill like crazy ... then immediately ask "do you have pps?"
haha this is just what I was going to say. I can't wait to show some stats in a couple months starting from summer
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:23 AM   #15
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Depends on the site. 10 sales a day to FTV is like planting a money tree ;)

Same with a few quality shemale sites. Notice I said "quality".
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:41 AM   #16
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Over 10 full price joins a day to a single site. That would be a whale
Over 10? That's a whale.
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