Money or Ethics what matters to you more?

[Karupted Charles]

I have been talking with several companies over the last few months. It is clear to me many care more about money then ethics. People I used to enjoy spending time with and even called friends have over the last several months opened up sites that either directly steal our content and use it without permission or go and support others that do it. Combined with the prechecked hidden cross sales and various other things I have heard as of late it got me thinking.

We are working on some projects and only want people that have left dirty money on the table by not doing shady things to make money. If you are an affiliate that believes in long term money making or a program owner that believes in the fair treatment of both surfers and webmasters drop me a line. We would like to get to know who you are and see if we can adapt together instead of trying to cheat each other out of a quickbuck.

[StuartD]

Ethics all the way... which sometimes really burns my ass.
When I think of the opportunities I've had if only my ethics hadn't gotten in the way... it's rather sickening.

[munki]

Ethics always...

Money comes and goes... your character, reputation, and ability to sleep easy at night because you are doing things right, last forever.

Always interested in solid opportunities and projects... stay in touch.

[Deej]

Money is very important, but I dont bend my ethics to gain more at a time...

[klaze]

Slowly moving towards Money.

Honestly i've learned that nobody gives a fuck about me so me giving a fuck about them is not going to do anything beneficial for me.

I have my own ethics but if they don't agree with yours I don't care.

[Barefootsies]

Ethics all the way... which sometimes really burns my ass.
When I think of the opportunities I've had if only my ethics hadn't gotten in the way... it's rather sickening.

Ethics always...

Money comes and goes... your character, reputation, and ability to sleep easy at night because you are doing things right, last forever.

Always interested in solid opportunities and projects... stay in touch.

These two statements more a less sum it up for me..

[Kudles]

Umm I would have to say money!!

[Bugbee]

ethics, always ethics

lets get together for a drink Charles!!!

[klaze]

I have been talking with several companies over the last few months. It is clear to me many care more about money then ethics. People I used to enjoy spending time with and even called friends have over the last several months opened up sites that either directly steal our content and use it without permission or go and support others that do it. Combined with the prechecked hidden cross sales and various other things I have heard as of late it got me thinking.

We are working on some projects and only want people that have left dirty money on the table by not doing shady things to make money. If you are an affiliate that believes in long term money making or a program owner that believes in the fair treatment of both surfers and webmasters drop me a line. We would like to get to know who you are and see if we can adapt together instead of trying to cheat each other out of a quickbuck.

Didn't you have to go against people's ethics and what the majority of the world believes to be "Good ethics" to create and operate the business you run?

What's ethics?

Just say it you don't like Tubes and Ripping off surfers.. but don't get all high and mighty about it.

[CDSmith]

It's possible to have both, so I refuse to choose one over the other.

I'll say this though, people who are willing to cheat to get ahead are almost always short-term thinkers.

[Barefootsies]

It's possible to have both, so I refuse to choose one over the other.

I'll say this though, people who are willing to cheat to get ahead are almost always short-term thinkers.

So true Smitty...

[Robbie]

I think you have to treat people fairly. I've never screwed anybody over in this business and pretty much work my butt off to make my money. This content theft is pretty outrageous and I have taken steps to stop it from happening with my stuff.

Pre-checks? Don't bother me at all as long as they are visible. Nothing like the old dialer days...now THAT was fucking some surfers over.

And having a brother whose in the car industry I would say that every person here who has ever bought a car doesn't realize what happened to you on the backend of that deal.

Think in terms of 100 hidden pre-checked x-sells and then you start to get the picture of what happens to a consumer buying a car. LOL

Same with most any business. It's called "making money". Furniture is marked up 300% from wholesale to retail and the list goes on.

Now if a company gets crazy on you with truly hiden x-sells or a chain of x-sells that nails your ass even if you uncheck it then that is a big problem. Then you're pretty much doing what the dialers did 6 years ago.

Speaking of a few years ago...I seem to remember losing a ton of money on rebills when a certain company closed their affiliate program because they didn't feel they needed it anymore. Thousands of dollars a month in rebills just...gone. I hope that never happens again.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Your closing statement made me grin. Whether the double-entendre was intentional, or not, I appreciated it.

[klaze]

How do you even know what a person's ethics really are??

I could BS you all day on my good ethics and moral standing and you'd never know.

These people who u'd call "friends" apparently did...

[Karupted Charles]

Didn't you have to go against people's ethics and what the majority of the world believes to be "Good ethics" to create and operate the business you run?

What's ethics?

Just say it you don't like Tubes and Ripping off surfers.. but don't get all high and mighty about it.

Would it make you feel better if I said business ethics? Or is your point more that since some people don't agree with your choice in business it gives you a free pass to do anything you want?

It's more then tubes and ripping off surfers but that is pretty much what I said and I don't recall getting high or mighty.

As far as the what is ethics that is something you have to answer for yourself. We all know right from wrong and I think even most of the thieves in the business know when they are doing something wrong.