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Originally Posted by harvey
(Post 14571794)
I might add around 90% of sites catering to specific fetishes or microniches don't have any idea about what they're doing. And it happens even on big niches, ie I'm surprised at big boobs sites, other than Score I still haven't found a big boobs site really knowing what big boobs lovers are looking for. Or just BOOBS lovers, as we're at it. Everybody thinks: "OK, she has big boobs. Done" And the big boobs are just the "vehicle" to get to the real object of desire, so any boobs sponsor using that would increase their conversions greatly, but problem is this industry uses the kind of "affiliate representatives" Brand0n and MikeSmoke mentions. And the whole concept of "marketing" is just a guy who pays for drinks. And let alone research, psychology, business engineering, etc that simply doesn't exist. And those who have it don't tell anyone :2 cents:
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Even as an account rep I will say that it is true that most webmasters don't even have a clue when it comes to micro-niche. As my own webmaster, the vast majority of what I do is micro-niche and 'real' fetishes.
The prime reason I got into doing AVS so long back was because most webmasters or companies don't properly understand those niches and if I took the time to actually learn what those surfers wanted I could put up 200 pages on a very amateur looking AVS site and outsell any paysites in the micro-niche/fetish that might happen to exist (often many didn't).
That isn't just a rep thing it is a webmaster thing overall and I am kind of glad (from a webmaster perspective this time) that my micro-niches and 'real' fetishes aren't widely understood by other webmasters or it would harder for me to stand out as one of the few sites that do 'get them'.
I started in this industry in the BBW market and even to this day the vast majority of BBW sites put out by big companies don't really understand the market and put up insulting tours and the like. So, I get the frustration of trying to be 'sold' sites that miss the mark with your niche or fetish.
Where I do think it starts to come down to the rep or affiliate support is if they try to lie to you about understanding the ins and out of a niche or market when they don't. If I am promoting a fetish and somebody doesn't know a huge deal about it I would rather they be honest with me.
That is the stance I will always take with my Max Cash affiliates. We don't have many niches I haven't worked with enough to understand but I am never going to pretend to know the total ins and outs of every aspect of every niche.
For example, with the Ebony stuff (just grabbing something out of my head)..I had done some sites in the past and played enough with the traffic to get the basics. Yet, I know that there is a whole other layer to the market where I might not know the names of all the hottest ebony pornstars, or all the micro-niches within the larger market. Since taking this job I have researched those aspects more so that I can help my accounts but I will never lie to them and say I am a total expert.
What I am an expert on is what ebony sites we have, how they do for various types of traffic, what tools we have and what wording has been working for those I have helped,etc. If I put that on top of the aspects of traffic generation and SEO that I am knowledgeable on and which cover sites in general then hopefully I am going to be able to help when needed even on a niche that isn't my Mastermind subject.
Now, dare somebody ask me about the niches that are my Mastermind subjects and then the problem might be getting me to shut up (like now) ;)
If more affiliate support reps were more honest then perhaps there would be less feeling of them trying to pull something on you for an extra couple hits.
