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Honeyslut · 10-31-2002, 09:30 AM

Hiya Danger Dave !

Check out Glo-bill.com

wonton · 10-31-2002, 01:05 PM

I agree. Just use Glo-Bill.com. There are a slew of new Aussie, Canuck and Asian webmasters from iBill and CCBill that are now using them, according to posts on their board.

No US presence or tax bullshit necessary.

rodme_him · 10-31-2002, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta

Very deep toughts... Ever tough of Tax implications??? As a Canadian citizen, I would have taken from my sales:

- 15 % for the billing company
- 30 % for US witholding tax ( no refund from our End)
- 30-40 % Canadian Income Tax

Total: 75% to 85% ...
And I dont take in consideration the 10% holdback....
Neither the amortization of all the fees...

Is tha tsuch a small price.... I would like to see you in my situation... I am sure you would just shut the fuck up, and not be so arrogant....

Here here at least another Canadian that is feeling the crunch here, yeah right register in the US, get a Tax ID, pay the IRS, Revenue Canada and the Province you live in = no money to run your site with

The Other Steve · 10-31-2002, 09:18 PM

Corvett - why do I have an overwhelming urge to tell you where to go and what to do with your pious bullshit post.

We have been with CCBill for 4 fucking years and we feel that you guys have totally failed in your responsibility to us as your customers. We paid you good money to look after our billing and to protect our interests and when it came crunch time you mealy mouthed pack of bludgers did nothing but wet your pants when Visa growled at you.

What loads of bullshit CCBill and the other wimps came out with to justify your inaction. You guys just bent over and let Visa arse-fuck you and never gave a thought to the position of your overseas webmasters until it was too late.

If you had been prepared to stand up to Visa USA and take your business elsewhere then we would have stuck by you but you were prepared to ditch us so we're ditching you.

And a little note for every Aussie webmaster who ran off to the US and set up an LLC - I hope you have good accountants because you're going to need them. I bet none of you got expert advice on the tax implications involved in setting up an LLC - from what I've been told you will probably be paying 30% on your income (not your profit) in the USA and then your going to have to talk to our tax department too so you had better start saving your pennies you just might need them.

directfiesta · 11-01-2002, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pet kangaroo

5. I've approached Australian banks about registering as a Merchant with them and doing the whole bloody thing myself. It's been two weeks and I haven't even heard back from NAB and CBA. Looks like a waste of time. Aussie banks are a bunch of hicks.

Canadians ( 7 of them!!!) also. No porn, my god!!!! That the heritage of the British Empire... At least, you guys got rid of the Queen. We still have her as "Head of State"... Wonders if she knows what " head" is....

PornoBug · 11-01-2002, 04:48 PM

ccBill and iBill both wax lyrical about how good they are and how well they have dealt witht he changes. The reality is quite different.

ccBill and iBill proved to the adult webmaster community that they were both ill prepared and ill equipped to deal with fundamental changes in the operational landscape. Now as a direct result they are unable to provide an adequate level of service, or in the case of iBill demand information about your operation which is unreasonable in the circumstances.

People are rightly annoyed that these two companies have swallowed large monthly fees in exchange for providing a service that they have now basically withdrawn. In Australia these companies would almost certainly be under the scruitiny of agencies like the ACCC if they replicated this behaviour here.

When you boil down the facts, the bottom line is that these companies contracted to provide a service which they have now withdrawn because they could not get their act together. This is a classic example of the fat cat being too slow to find a new source of food when the cream ran out.

Fortunately Australian adult webmasters have other options and we are now using them. It was never a viable proposition for Australian webmasters to set up a US corporation - double taxation rules would not prevent each country taking a large slice of the income pie - notwithstanding the problems of things like public iability etc.

ccBill and iBill, one of your companies is sure to fail in the medium term unless you change your attitude and become more proactive rather then responsive to change. The way in which both of your companies have handled the VISA changes has vindicated those whose decision it was to leave you. Your demonstrable lack of ability to adapt to the business changes imposed on you leaves most onlookers skeptical of your ability to provide an ongoing high level of service. Indeed iBill especially has show that it's client services is almost non existant when you most need them.

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 11:22 PM

Corvett is a good PR guy... Meni, take some notes

garv · 11-02-2002, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett

Garv, if that was a CCBill email that you posted, please email it to me

you have mail

regards
garv

cat · 11-02-2002, 01:27 AM

dump them, go globill

10-31-2002, 09:30 AM	#51
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	Hiya Danger Dave ! Check out Glo-bill.com __________________ http://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !

10-31-2002, 09:18 PM	#54
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Corvett - why do I have an overwhelming urge to tell you where to go and what to do with your pious bullshit post. We have been with CCBill for 4 fucking years and we feel that you guys have totally failed in your responsibility to us as your customers. We paid you good money to look after our billing and to protect our interests and when it came crunch time you mealy mouthed pack of bludgers did nothing but wet your pants when Visa growled at you. What loads of bullshit CCBill and the other wimps came out with to justify your inaction. You guys just bent over and let Visa arse-fuck you and never gave a thought to the position of your overseas webmasters until it was too late. If you had been prepared to stand up to Visa USA and take your business elsewhere then we would have stuck by you but you were prepared to ditch us so we're ditching you. And a little note for every Aussie webmaster who ran off to the US and set up an LLC - I hope you have good accountants because you're going to need them. I bet none of you got expert advice on the tax implications involved in setting up an LLC - from what I've been told you will probably be paying 30% on your income (not your profit) in the USA and then your going to have to talk to our tax department too so you had better start saving your pennies you just might need them. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

11-01-2002, 11:22 PM	#57
XXX_Jman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Up my own ass Posts: 213	Corvett is a good PR guy... Meni, take some notes __________________ XXX_Jman "To win without fighting is best"

10-31-2002, 01:05 PM	#52
wonton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 802	I agree. Just use Glo-Bill.com. There are a slew of new Aussie, Canuck and Asian webmasters from iBill and CCBill that are now using them, according to posts on their board. No US presence or tax bullshit necessary.

11-01-2002, 04:48 PM	#56
PornoBug Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 237	ccBill and iBill both wax lyrical about how good they are and how well they have dealt witht he changes. The reality is quite different. ccBill and iBill proved to the adult webmaster community that they were both ill prepared and ill equipped to deal with fundamental changes in the operational landscape. Now as a direct result they are unable to provide an adequate level of service, or in the case of iBill demand information about your operation which is unreasonable in the circumstances. People are rightly annoyed that these two companies have swallowed large monthly fees in exchange for providing a service that they have now basically withdrawn. In Australia these companies would almost certainly be under the scruitiny of agencies like the ACCC if they replicated this behaviour here. When you boil down the facts, the bottom line is that these companies contracted to provide a service which they have now withdrawn because they could not get their act together. This is a classic example of the fat cat being too slow to find a new source of food when the cream ran out. Fortunately Australian adult webmasters have other options and we are now using them. It was never a viable proposition for Australian webmasters to set up a US corporation - double taxation rules would not prevent each country taking a large slice of the income pie - notwithstanding the problems of things like public iability etc. ccBill and iBill, one of your companies is sure to fail in the medium term unless you change your attitude and become more proactive rather then responsive to change. The way in which both of your companies have handled the VISA changes has vindicated those whose decision it was to leave you. Your demonstrable lack of ability to adapt to the business changes imposed on you leaves most onlookers skeptical of your ability to provide an ongoing high level of service. Indeed iBill especially has show that it's client services is almost non existant when you most need them.

11-02-2002, 01:27 AM	#59
cat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: europe Posts: 493	dump them, go globill