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Old 07-25-2008, 08:36 PM   #1
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Obama's making shit up already?

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:38 PM   #2
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doesnt matter he is still going to beat grandpa by alot.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:39 PM   #3
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Fucker's always lying about shit
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:40 PM   #4
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politicians lie that's what they do.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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he's not even on the Senate Banking Committee?
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:43 PM   #6
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politicians lie that's what they do.
Yeah, but this one lies alot more then flip flops alot too..
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:45 PM   #7
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Yeah, but this one lies alot more then flip flops alot too..
have you been watching grandpa john he flips flops enough he can debate himself. lol
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=13035

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:46 PM   #8
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doesnt matter he is still going to beat grandpa by alot.
What do you know that the polls don't? You realize Germany doesn't have any Electoral votes, right?
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:47 PM   #9
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have you been watching grandpa john he flips flops enough he can debate himself. lol
Yeah, but difference is that he isn't insulated.. Obama's using a script while McCain is just fucking stupid sometimes.


Obama's lies are prepared and planned in advance.. calculated moves of intentful deception while McCain's are created on the spot.

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:49 PM   #10
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have you been watching grandpa john he flips flops enough he can debate himself. lol
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=13035
I thought you said you were staying out of political threads. How long did that last?
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Yeah, but difference is that he isn't insulated.. Obama's using a script while McCain is just fucking stupid sometimes.


Obama's lies are prepared and planned in advance.. calculated moves of intentful deception while McCain's are created on the spot.
you're not putting up much of an argument for McCain - senility isn't much of an alternative over a calculated liar
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Im not really into usa elections but the small part of his speech I saw in Berlin did make him look like a very confident person who speaks well in front of a audience.

PR and bullshit maybe but all elections are won that way as far as I see it ?
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I saw a lot of comments but its not a USA audience ? well thats correct but that speech was shown across the globe and I think that was a good thing

The USA is a world power not a USA only power and I think it showed just maybe its time the USA understood it shouldnt ignore the Geneva Convention etc but work together with the rest of the world to solve problems instead of just going alone on what it thinks is best ?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:04 PM   #14
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I thought you said you were staying out of political threads. How long did that last?
I flip flopped I guess lol Im not getting crazy about it anymore.not really getting to it as much. Your thread called to me.

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Yeah, but difference is that he isn't insulated.. Obama's using a script while McCain is just fucking stupid sometimes.


Obama's lies are prepared and planned in advance.. calculated moves of intentful deception while McCain's are created on the spot.
ok stop please lol
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:08 PM   #16
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Obama's making shit up already?


Have you not been watching McCain pulling shit out of his ass?

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Old 07-25-2008, 09:45 PM   #17
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Actually i think it a fuck up on his end i think he ment it the other way around. It was his bill that was passed by the committee.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:47 PM   #18
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I saw a lot of comments but its not a USA audience ? well thats correct but that speech was shown across the globe and I think that was a good thing

The USA is a world power not a USA only power and I think it showed just maybe its time the USA understood it shouldnt ignore the Geneva Convention etc but work together with the rest of the world to solve problems instead of just going alone on what it thinks is best ?
uhm, what?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:51 PM   #19
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If you think that's bad, let me tell you the one about Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice, regarding Saddam Hussein and his (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction, which have led to the deaths of over 4,000 U.S. uniformed service members, not to mention billions of dollars of taxpayer money...

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LOL, all I can do is laugh at some of the dumbasses who think Obama is the best thing since mosquito repellent
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Obama is like hemorroids.
You can't get rid of them.
You just have to wait til they go away...
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