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Spunky 07-24-2008 10:35 PM
The mother ship is coming

Evil E 07-24-2008 10:43 PM
I'm more excited about parallel universes/time travel then aliens.

That should come soon with the LHC at CERN.

Tat2Jr 07-24-2008 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503779)
Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this.....
I always remember being told in school that we'd never ever ever be able to clone a mammal. That it was absolutely impossible.

moeloubani 07-24-2008 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 14504140)
I always remember being told in school that we'd never ever ever be able to clone a mammal. That it was absolutely impossible.
I'm sure the person who told you that was as credible as the professors that I got my info from.

GregE 07-24-2008 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504049)
If anything that means that space travel will be easier, because we can travel for 10000 human years meanwhile the astronauts have only been traveling for (for example) 5 years.
The only problem here is that by the time those very same astronauts complete their round trip by returning home (10 of their years later) 20,000 years will have passed on their home planet.

The people who greet them (if there are any) may or may not be interested in hearing about the astronauts adventures but the whole exercise seems rather impractical in any case.


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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504049)
The problem with Aliens isn't that, its length contraction and the increase of mass that happens as you approach the speed of light.
Okay, now you've lost me :)

TTiger 07-24-2008 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503779)
Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this:

The idea of Aliens traveling from outer space to Earth is very slim. BUT if they could, they would have to travel at close to the speed of light to do it.

When you start talking about speeds like the speed of light (c) then you have to know the work Einstein did and what his theories (which have since been proven) state.

As you approach the speed of light your length contracts and your mass increases. Soo if there was a car that was 20 ft long and a garage that was stationary and only 10 feet long. That car, if it was traveling close enough to the speed of light, could go into the garage, and both doors could close at the same time. This is because the actual length of the car changes.

The same holds true for mass, as your speed increases and starts going towards any fraction of the speed of light (like 1% of the speed of light and this is noticeable) then whatever object it is gets more massive. Light can go the speed of light because a photon has no mass. Everything else is limited by that.

IF Aliens found a way to skip physics and do something where the speed of light wouldn't be a limiting factor, it would also mean that there would be no limit on the size of their spacecraft. So why would they come around in a tiny little flying saucer? It wouldn't need to be aerodynamic, and it could be as big as the Starship Enterprise! There would be no point in sending out tiny little drone ships when you can send out fully equipped battle/eco dome cruisers.
http://www.st.com/stonline/stappl/pu...2030shigh.jpeg

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-24-2008 11:14 PM
I invented Battle Ecodome Cruisers.

GregE 07-24-2008 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503779)
Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this:

The idea of Aliens traveling from outer space to Earth is very slim. BUT if they could, they would have to travel at close to the speed of light to do it.

When you start talking about speeds like the speed of light (c) then you have to know the work Einstein did and what his theories (which have since been proven) state.

As you approach the speed of light your length contracts and your mass increases. Soo if there was a car that was 20 ft long and a garage that was stationary and only 10 feet long. That car, if it was traveling close enough to the speed of light, could go into the garage, and both doors could close at the same time. This is because the actual length of the car changes.

The same holds true for mass, as your speed increases and starts going towards any fraction of the speed of light (like 1&#37; of the speed of light and this is noticeable) then whatever object it is gets more massive. Light can go the speed of light because a photon has no mass. Everything else is limited by that.

IF Aliens found a way to skip physics and do something where the speed of light wouldn't be a limiting factor, it would also mean that there would be no limit on the size of their spacecraft. So why would they come around in a tiny little flying saucer? It wouldn't need to be aerodynamic, and it could be as big as the Starship Enterprise! There would be no point in sending out tiny little drone ships when you can send out fully equipped battle/eco dome cruisers.
Please disregard my previous comment. Now I see what you mean about mass and contraction and such.

Dirty F 07-24-2008 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 14503136)
more and more of this evidence and people finally speaking up are starting to happen all the time
More and more evidence? Point me out ONE piece of real evidence? Just one man.

Dirty F 07-24-2008 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14503531)
Those who don't believe in aliens are very conceited.

If humans are the smartest and most advanced species in in the universe, then the universe truly is a sad place.
Ofcourse there is life on another planets but tiny big headed aliens visiting earth...uhm no.

The chance of aliens looking anything like humans is already almost 0.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-24-2008 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503906)
It's more entertaining when people laugh at things that have been proven true.

When a computer models the universe based on what we know (universal constants, equations and theories all accounted for) then we get a result that looks just like our universe today. If we change anything at all, even a little bit, then the end result looks drastically different. So I'm not sure what you're getting at since people KNOW this stuff is true, have proven it true, and even applied it to technology you use everyday that wouldn't function without it.
There are other theories as well.

What about riding the magnetic coil's that hold this galaxy together.

Jump a coil then fall out of it then travel Sub FTL to a destination?
All planets are linked by magnetics including the sun and thus linked to all suns in this galaxy?
Whats to say a large spacecraft is necessary at all?

What can be small on the outside can be very big on the inside.

Can you derive a theory on this or do you know of such theories at all?:)

Dirty F 07-24-2008 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14503735)
There very well may be species that are thousands if not tens of thousands of years ahead of us time wise. No argument there at all.
Id say millions. 1000's is nothing. The universe is 15 billion years old or something. Were a pretty young planet. Another civ. could be easily a billion year older than us. Can you imagine that.

2012 07-24-2008 11:24 PM
i am here only to observe and communicate back to the mother ship ....


beeedy beeedy beedy

2012 07-24-2008 11:30 PM
http://www.fartfly.com/they_live.jpg

moeloubani 07-24-2008 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14504206)
There are other theories as well.

What about riding the magnetic coil's that hold this galaxy together.

Jump a coil then fall out of it then travel Sub FTL to a destination?
All planets are linked by magnetics including the sun and thus linked to all suns in this galaxy?
Whats to say a large spacecraft is necessary at all?

What can be small on the outside can be very big on the inside.

Can you derive a theory on this or do you know of such theories at all?:)
There are no magnetic coils, just gravity!

moeloubani 07-24-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504207)
Id say millions. 1000's is nothing. The universe is 15 billion years old or something. Were a pretty young planet. Another civ. could be easily a billion year older than us. Can you imagine that.
It's almost a guarantee that there are other civilizations and other species, but they're not visiting Earth! It's still crazy though to think that somewhere billions and billions of miles away there is some dude typing on a FUTVYR keyboard (they don't have QWERTY) and visiting com.gfy :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bhutocracy 07-24-2008 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TTiger (Post 14504155)
Blackholes, several thousand curious but extinct civilisations can't be wrong.

Rochard 07-25-2008 12:01 AM
Have you BOB from Lightspeed Cash?

Have you seen his balls?

I swear to god no human can have balls like this. It's physically impossible.

He's an alien. Got to be!

moeloubani 07-25-2008 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 14504179)
Please disregard my previous comment. Now I see what you mean about mass and contraction and such.
Isn't it crazy how that works? It's hard to imagine and it took me a while before my brain started to accept it but shit gets crazy! Funny thing is though that we know so much about everything except the one that is most noticeable, gravity. We really don't know what causes gravity (there are theories, just nothing that's been proven) but they're hoping to either prove or disprove them using that thing ^^^^^^

CyberHustler 07-25-2008 12:17 AM
I'd fuck a female alien...

Gasper 07-25-2008 12:59 AM
http://www.originalprop.com/blog/wp-.../02/engage.jpg

Drake 07-25-2008 01:08 AM
We are aliens. Thousands of years ago our ancestors came to Earth and made it our new home.

Oh, it's all true. Because I said so.

The Duck 07-25-2008 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 14503496)
The Catholic church's official position is that life on other planets is possible. There are a lot of religious people who believe in aliens.

The interesting thing about alien life and religion is that the Bible doesn't explain the history of God, the angels and that sort of thing. Could it be that the "higher powers" in the Bible are actually aliens?

There are numerous alien references in the Bible too.
Most interesting are the annunaki, the gods or angels who descended from heaven and mated with human females.

grumpy 07-25-2008 01:20 AM
you guys are so funny, the radio interview they are talking about is from the comedy show newsradio.

BusterBunny 07-25-2008 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503779)
Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this:

The idea of Aliens traveling from outer space to Earth is very slim. BUT if they could, they would have to travel at close to the speed of light to do it.

When you start talking about speeds like the speed of light (c) then you have to know the work Einstein did and what his theories (which have since been proven) state.

As you approach the speed of light your length contracts and your mass increases. Soo if there was a car that was 20 ft long and a garage that was stationary and only 10 feet long. That car, if it was traveling close enough to the speed of light, could go into the garage, and both doors could close at the same time. This is because the actual length of the car changes.

The same holds true for mass, as your speed increases and starts going towards any fraction of the speed of light (like 1% of the speed of light and this is noticeable) then whatever object it is gets more massive. Light can go the speed of light because a photon has no mass. Everything else is limited by that.

IF Aliens found a way to skip physics and do something where the speed of light wouldn't be a limiting factor, it would also mean that there would be no limit on the size of their spacecraft. So why would they come around in a tiny little flying saucer? It wouldn't need to be aerodynamic, and it could be as big as the Starship Enterprise! There would be no point in sending out tiny little drone ships when you can send out fully equipped battle/eco dome cruisers.
you are using einstein's theories and they are full of wormholes which are the most efficient way of travel....i think the odds are a decent ;)

Gunni 07-25-2008 01:35 AM
why use speed to travel the universe when you can just use teleporting?
We've been on this earth for such a short time and still we've managed so much, what if some civilization developed somewhere 1 million years ahead of us, can you imagine what out technology will be like in 1 million years?
That is ofcourse if we don't kill ourselves first

Nishville 07-25-2008 01:39 AM
Imma looking forward to new unexplored niche.

moeloubani 07-25-2008 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 14504407)
you are using einstein's theories and they are full of wormholes which are the most efficient way of travel....i think the odds are a decent ;)
Except those are wormholes on an atomic level, bigger wormholes would need some crazy matter to keep them up, tons of energy, and even then I think if you sent a single elementary particle through it would shut it down. Maybe not though?

But still, that's our best chance of traveling far distances. But time travel I'm not so sure of, Stephen Hawking said something along the lines of 'If there will ever be time travel, then why are we not flooded with people from the future?'

BusterBunny 07-25-2008 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 14504416)
why use speed to travel the universe when you can just use teleporting?
We've been on this earth for such a short time and still we've managed so much, what if some civilization developed somewhere 1 million years ahead of us, can you imagine what out technology will be like in 1 million years?
That is ofcourse if we don't kill ourselves first
they can teleport individual atoms so it's coming...

Gunni 07-25-2008 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504424)
why are we not flooded with people from the future?'
who says we're not?

moeloubani 07-25-2008 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 14504429)
who says we're not?
well following that same line of logic, who says there aren't invisible cats right now that you can't sense/feel in your ass?

Gunni 07-25-2008 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504431)
well following that same line of logic, who says there aren't invisible cats right now that you can't sense/feel in your ass?
exactly!

Although people from the future seem less of a stretch, they probably have very strict codes of conduct so they don't mess up the future

Gunni 07-25-2008 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 14504427)
they can teleport individual atoms so it's coming...
exactly, and if we can do that a few thousand years after disocvering fire and the wheel, imagine what other civilizations can have accomplished in say 100k years...

moeloubani 07-25-2008 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunni (Post 14504437)
exactly!

Although people from the future seem less of a stretch, they probably have very strict codes of conduct so they don't mess up the future
Well even if we keep advancing at the level we advance at now, we'll never be able to defy the laws of physics. There are some things that we will never be able to do. One of them is time travel to the past to change the past, it can't be done.

And you can't say one is more of a stretch than the other, both have 0 proof and are just as likely as one another!

BusterBunny 07-25-2008 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504424)
Except those are wormholes on an atomic level, bigger wormholes would need some crazy matter to keep them up, tons of energy, and even then I think if you sent a single elementary particle through it would shut it down. Maybe not though?

But still, that's our best chance of traveling far distances. But time travel I'm not so sure of, Stephen Hawking said something along the lines of 'If there will ever be time travel, then why are we not flooded with people from the future?'
i'd like to see the other side of a fat black hole that should have the power...and time travel is totally possible but jean claude keeps them in check:thumbsup

http://www.dvd1081009.com/images/Timecop.jpg

k the time travel part is a joke i don't really think that is likely...black holes should have the juice the problem is staying in one piece...well that and the fact there might not actually be a wormhole there...again we are talking theories

biskoppen 07-25-2008 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14503715)
That's all called space debris... old satelites, old fuel tanks etc etc

Alien space ships, no but much

biskoppen 07-25-2008 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14503721)
Isn't it interesting how crappy a camera a multi billion dollar space ship brings along :)

biskoppen 07-25-2008 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504197)
Ofcourse there is life on another planets but tiny big headed aliens visiting earth...uhm no.

The chance of aliens looking anything like humans is already almost 0.
Maybe the human shape (ish) is were evolution always will aim on any given planet where life begins.. ofcourse some planets will have weaker or stronger gravity which will make beings there somewhat different..

I'm defintly NOT saying that we, human beings in our current state, is "the final goal for evolution" because that would be just be insane - the average human being is stupid as fuck... but even if we keep on evolving for millions of years we will probably still have a head, arms and legs.. they will just be cooler :pimp

DWB 07-25-2008 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14503906)
It's more entertaining when people laugh at things that have been proven true.
Pull your head out of your butt. Just because WE think we proved all of this to be true, does not mean a civilization millions of years older than ours have not figured out a better way to build a mouse trap. Remember, not too long ago, the brilliant minds of this great planet thought the earth was flat. If I had to bet on the correct laws of physics and on who has them right, my money is going on the little space creatures.

I would also like to add that anyone who believes in a God but not aliens, is a dumb ass beyond words.

moeloubani 07-25-2008 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14504525)
Pull your head out of your butt. Just because WE think we proved all of this to be true, does not mean a civilization millions of years older than ours have not figured out a better way to build a mouse trap. Remember, not too long ago, the brilliant minds of this great planet thought the earth was flat. If I had to bet on the correct laws of physics and on who has them right, my money is going on the little space creatures.

I would also like to add that anyone who believes in a God but not aliens, is a dumb ass beyond words.
So are you saying we still don't know if the world is flat or not? We know that it's a sphere, right? I bet Aliens think that it's a triangle, we should always believe the Aliens!

Fact is, we have proof that it's round. And that proof is much, much more reliable than some fantasy someone dreams up of some Aliens that may or may not exist.

If you believe in God and not Aliens the obvious line of thought would be that God made humans and only humans will ever be intelligent in our universe. Don't see where the dumb ass part comes in!

Gunni 07-25-2008 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504448)
Well even if we keep advancing at the level we advance at now, we'll never be able to defy the laws of physics. There are some things that we will never be able to do. One of them is time travel to the past to change the past, it can't be done.

And you can't say one is more of a stretch than the other, both have 0 proof and are just as likely as one another!
ofcourse we can defy the laws of physics, I mean if bees can do it we must be able to!
Anyway, even our most fundamental laws of physics are provisional. Scientist ofcourse would never brake the laws of physics, they just tend to adjust them :upsidedow

Gunni 07-25-2008 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14504592)
Fact is, we have proof that it's round
Quote:
The Earth's shape is very close to an oblate spheroid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Shape

:upsidedow

TiltMaster 07-25-2008 03:39 AM
Space has no beginning and no end , There is an endless number of galaxies and universes out there... There is so much life out in space , If more intellegent than us , my guess is they would have found us by now , that is if they are in our universe or galaxy. and about the time machine... I have a feeling we will have a breakthrough soon... We have already pretty much discovered that every galaxy has a supermassive blackhole in it , including ours , the milky way galaxy , If we can somehow master wormholes and learn how to keep it open ... thats our only ticket into time travel for humans.. The time machine that is being developed now uses laser light to warp space and time ...but we can only send and recieve messages , can't send objects or a person.

xmas13 07-25-2008 03:42 AM
The proof that aliens exist is before our eyes. It's us! We are an intelligent form of life in the universe. There are others on Earth, and more elsewhere. :)))

StuartD 07-25-2008 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 14503633)
Actually people that believe in alien beings without any proof are not so different from religious zealots believing in the great JuJu in the sky..
Hardly. It's a very FAR stretch of the imagination to try to link a scientific probability to a religious faith.

I also believe in a cure for aids and cancer... because scientifically, it's very probable. That doesn't mean I automatically believe in God too.

StuartD 07-25-2008 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14504197)
Ofcourse there is life on another planets but tiny big headed aliens visiting earth...uhm no.

The chance of aliens looking anything like humans is already almost 0.
Yeah, I didn't say I believe aliens have been here, although I certainly couldn't say that I'm 100% certain they haven't. I'm just saying that it's pretty egotistical to go thinking that humans are the center of the universe.

xmas13 07-25-2008 03:46 AM
Humans believe they are the center of everything, their life, their family, their town, their country, their continent, their planet. It's actually less primitive, smarter to assume there is stronger than you, than the contrary. Think about it, and I don't adhere to any religion including atheism.

StuartD 07-25-2008 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 14504699)
The proof that aliens exist is before our eyes. It's us! We are an intelligent form of life in the universe. There are others on Earth, and more elsewhere. :)))
Well said. We're proof that life can begin and evolve on a planet with ideal conditions. We're proof that another planet with ideal conditions can produce the same or similar results.
And given the age of the universe, that could have happened a long time ago, recently... any time. And thus those other intelligent life forms could have come and gone, still be going, just starting, etc.

xmas13 07-25-2008 03:51 AM
Albert Einstein philosophy was "keep an open mind".

xmas13 07-25-2008 03:55 AM
Plato said: ?Science is nothing but perception.?

Our perception is limited. We rule a planet but we don't rule the universe.

Dinosaurs have ruled this planet for a long time (160 million years if you believe scientists) before disappearing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur


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