It's illegal to carry a blade here in Australia. Good thing to.
All you people who think you should be able to arm yourself with guns and knives are morons. How many gun related deaths are there in England? Almost zero. How about in the US?
The biggest problem with our country is our lack of punishment.
My old next door neighbour knifed his housemate to death for "not paying his rent".
He got 4 years. He'll serve 2.
WHAT? I thought the UK was a lot safer than the US. Matter of fact, I was planning on moving over there later on in life because I've always enjoyed visiting. But visiting is a lot different than living. .... Bad idea?
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the lower class brits (which are the majority) have always been known to be violent pieces of shit, google soccer hooligans, england has the worst by far
Guns are not banned. Handheld guns generally used for killing people are banned. You can own rifles and shotguns under licenses.
Originally posted by bloggingseo
WHAT? I thought the UK was a lot safer than the US. Matter of fact, I was planning on moving over there later on in life because I've always enjoyed visiting. But visiting is a lot different than living. .... Bad idea?
The UK is seriously not a dangerous place to be, as long as you stay away from the rough areas. It is like the USA, you could say it is a fairly safe place - but not if you're in Harlem.
Originally posted by The Judge
the lower class brits (which are the majority) have always been known to be violent pieces of shit, google soccer hooligans, england has the worst by far
England doesn't have the worst, take the Turkish fans for example...
Knife attcks have always been there (same as any other country), the press just started covering it a hell of a lot more.
Originally posted by The Judge
the lower class brits (which are the majority) have always been known to be violent pieces of shit, google soccer hooligans, england has the worst by far
You know the majority of Brits do you?
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Killing someone with a knife is much more personal than killing someone with a gun. But its sick, people don't get punished enough for their crimes. I use to carry a knife around, for safety, but to be honest, no real point. Only gets you into more shit if you take it out. Lot of morons out there.
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please tell me you're kidding, there's no place on Earth where you get less than 10 years for murder (excluding self defence n shit)
Come to the UK! You hear of people murdering others and pleading guilty to a reduced charge. It saves the courts time and money so they give them 8 years in Jail. You'll be out in 4. Our Country is in a mess. Judges are scared to put people in Jail coz they are overcrowded.
It seems pretty obvious that for the overall good of society that the UK needs to ban all knives....... forks can also be dangerous so they might want to look into banning those too.
Yep the great UK is not so great anymore. Its a mess and its getting worse. They keep telling us violent crime is falling but that is far from the truth.
Come to the UK! You hear of people murdering others and pleading guilty to a reduced charge. It saves the courts time and money so they give them 8 years in Jail. You'll be out in 4. Our Country is in a mess. Judges are scared to put people in Jail coz they are overcrowded.
This country is in a mess.... there are major major issues that need to be dealt with and until they start renting prison space abroad and shipping the more serious criminals out to dirty, stinking prisons in India there's always gonna be a problem with overcrowding in the UK prisons which tax payers are paying a fortune for.
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The worst thing about the uk is some of the posters above, moan, old usually failed and thats all they have left to do.
"The country is in a mess" do you know what a mess is? Zimbabwe is a mess, Iraq is a mess, large parts of America is a mess, there is very little mess here. 30 drug dealing teens stabbing each other to death a year is not a fucking mess, more than 100 people die from guns EVERY DAY in america, that is just with guns. Brits are so over dramatic and moan non stop. You do realise when the papers says oh no another teen stabbed to death, this same teen has a criminal record as long as your arm and if it wasnt him killed he would only be killing someone else. Granted the odd few get killed who are normal people and dont deserve it but your never gonna have a country without that.
Originally posted by Ross
Come to the UK! You hear of people murdering others and pleading guilty to a reduced charge. It saves the courts time and money so they give them 8 years in Jail. You'll be out in 4. Our Country is in a mess. Judges are scared to put people in Jail coz they are overcrowded.
What are you talking about? Show some sources, very rarely would someone get under 15 years for murder and that is a light sentence, if someone is getting 8 years theres more to the case than just murder. But i think your just being a typical scot and being a little bitch.
The worst thing about the uk is some of the posters above, moan, old usually failed and thats all they have left to do.
"The country is in a mess" do you know what a mess is? Zimbabwe is a mess, Iraq is a mess, large parts of America is a mess, there is very little mess here. 30 drug dealing teens stabbing each other to death a year is not a fucking mess, more than 100 people die from guns EVERY DAY in america, that is just with guns. Brits are so over dramatic and moan non stop. You do realise when the papers says oh no another teen stabbed to death, this same teen has a criminal record as long as your arm and if it wasnt him killed he would only be killing someone else. Granted the odd few get killed who are normal people and dont deserve it but your never gonna have a country without that.
What are you talking about? Show some sources, very rarely would someone get under 15 years for murder and that is a light sentence, if someone is getting 8 years theres more to the case than just murder. But i think your just being a typical scot and being a little bitch.
Are you really saying that Western countries cannot complain about crime simply because there is bombings in Iraq and political murders in Zimbabwe?
That's pretty... mediocre...
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If you ban guns then only the outlaws will be carrying them..
If you ban knives only the outlaws will be carrying them...
Laws like that only keep guns and knives out of LAW abiding citizens hands. If I wanted to kill somebody I can drive to a ghetto and pickup an unregistered gun easily and dispose of it in a drain pipe, river or ANYWHERE. You simply can't do anything to keep the guns out of the hands of people wanting to commit crimes. You can only pass laws to keep them out of the hands of people wanting to protect themselves.
the #1 reason why this country will NEVER face a ground invasion is because they know we all have guns and most of us know how to shoot them...
If you ban guns then only the outlaws will be carrying them..
If you ban knives only the outlaws will be carrying them...
Laws like that only keep guns and knives out of LAW abiding citizens hands. If I wanted to kill somebody I can drive to a ghetto and pickup an unregistered gun easily and dispose of it in a drain pipe, river or ANYWHERE. You simply can't do anything to keep the guns out of the hands of people wanting to commit crimes. You can only pass laws to keep them out of the hands of people wanting to protect themselves.
the #1 reason why this country will NEVER face a ground invasion is because they know we all have guns and most of us know how to shoot them...
I would say the number one reason is because we are a essentially surrounded by water... Mexico and Canada are not going to do anything. Do you really think a trained military is not going to attack simply because Bob has a 9 mm in his nightstand?
Nobody is going to launch a ground invasion on France either... they don't have guns.
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Are you really saying that Western countries cannot complain about crime simply because there is bombings in Iraq and political murders in Zimbabwe?
That's pretty... mediocre...
We are talking about the likes of 30 fatal stabbings A YEAR. Compared to hundreds of murders PER DAY in america. Yes im telling you we the uk do not have a right to moan (as much as we do). People here act as if its the end of the world, because in shit parts of the country shit people are killing each other. Crime in the uk is actually not that bad at all.
There was an actor from the upcoming HARRY POTTER movie that was stabbed to death earlier this year in London. And then there was a British Heavyweight Boxer who was knifed to death last year... Just shows you how common these knife attacks are. 21 deaths... but over 21,000 actual knife attacks. I wonder how many of those were seriously injured. In any case, it doesn't look good for London. Hope they can somehow curb the problem.
There was an actor from the upcoming HARRY POTTER movie that was stabbed to death earlier this year in London. And then there was a British Heavyweight Boxer who was knifed to death last year... Just shows you how common these knife attacks are. 21 deaths... but over 21,000 actual knife attacks. I wonder how many of those were seriously injured. In any case, it doesn't look good for London. Hope they can somehow curb the problem.
Compare capital cities of other countries to london and violent crime here is right at the bottom.
Never been to the UK, never been to the US ghettos either... so I don't really know much about how really it is there... but... personally I just don't understand and can't agree with violence and crime seen on the street in the developed countries.
I am totally against giving up civil liberties (governments getting more and more data about their citizens, monitoring correspondence etc etc) but at the same time I am totally for increased police patrols and really punishing all these wannabe wiggers or niggas who have too much of free time and start trouble.
Really, I think that in the developed world (US, Canada, EU etc) there shouldn't be ANY places where you just can't feel safe.
Getting stabbed because you don't give someone a cig is really a horrible thing and there should be zero tolerance for such behavior. Criminals should be put in jails for years and prevention at an early level should take place, but I guess the problem is the education, the media, bad parenting and lots of other things.
Well, I don't really deal with the low-class scum (look at my nick ) but I just want to feel safe everywhere.
That's one of the crucial things that should distinguish the modern world from the 3rd world.
You should be safe on the streets in the major cities, even at night.
Well not sure how I sound, perhaps too idealistic. Really, it pisses me off so much to hear about stupidity, violence and cruelty. I don't want to sound old but I wonder often about where the world is going.
The worst thing about the uk is some of the posters above, moan, old usually failed and thats all they have left to do.
"The country is in a mess" do you know what a mess is? Zimbabwe is a mess, Iraq is a mess, large parts of America is a mess, there is very little mess here. 30 drug dealing teens stabbing each other to death a year is not a fucking mess, more than 100 people die from guns EVERY DAY in america, that is just with guns. Brits are so over dramatic and moan non stop. You do realise when the papers says oh no another teen stabbed to death, this same teen has a criminal record as long as your arm and if it wasnt him killed he would only be killing someone else. Granted the odd few get killed who are normal people and dont deserve it but your never gonna have a country without that.
What are you talking about? Show some sources, very rarely would someone get under 15 years for murder and that is a light sentence, if someone is getting 8 years theres more to the case than just murder. But i think your just being a typical scot and being a little bitch.
I agree completely. All these people saying our country is a mess, fuck me I am grateful I live in the UK and I think everyone else who lives here should be too.
Compare capital cities of other countries to london and violent crime here is right at the bottom.
Yes I know. But it was quite surprising to hear it when these attacks began to rise in London last year. I didn't say anything in my post that said London was high in comparision. What I said is hopefully it doesn't get too bad, and that they can find a way to prevent from getting worse. I was just sad to hear that because I've been to England several times in my life. I know how peaceful it is there.
the lower class brits (which are the majority) have always been known to be violent pieces of shit, google soccer hooligans, england has the worst by far
You base your assumption on what you found on fucking GOOGLE!!! Well there's a well presented, fully researched argument if ever I saw one. And as for lower class, YOU'RE the one with the redneck flag, now THAT'S classy
You base your assumption on what you found on fucking GOOGLE!!! Well there's a well presented, fully researched argument if ever I saw one. And as for lower class, YOU'RE the one with the redneck flag, now THAT'S classy
Whats also funny is he mentions "soccer" hooligans when its pretty much been eradicated here for a long time, england no way has the worst "soccer" hooligans anymore in fact we have probably the least "soccer" violence out of any other countries professional leagues. His research is very outdated.
It's when someone getting stabbed stops making headlines we'll know our countries in trouble.
It's my guess there hasn't been any significant rise in violent crime but the tabloid press has got hold of it and are blowing it way out of proportion. As the guy said above, us Brits love a good moan and are the first in line when it comes to putting our own country down.
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It's when someone getting stabbed stops making headlines we'll know our countries in trouble.
It's my guess there hasn't been any significant rise in violent crime but the tabloid press has got hold of it and are blowing it way out of proportion. As the guy said above, us Brits love a good moan and are the first in line when it comes to putting our own country down.
Despite all the previous postings i don't think the UK is in a mess. We, as a society, have got our priorities wrong on certain things. (Living to work for example). But by and large most folk are decent and hardworking
As to knife crime, it's only in the news becasue it's nearly all teenagers stabbing teenagers in London. Anyone who lives north of London will tell you the news media hardly ever focus on issues elsewhere. If it doen't happen in London it doesn't happen at all, and if it does happen in London it's MAJOR news.
Ask Glaswegians about knife crime, they've had it for years but it hardly ever gets mentioned.
To those saying there is nothing wrong with this country... Take you head out of your asses!
The UK is FUCKED right now... Yeah, it's not fucking Fallujah but it's nowhere near where it should be. We have some problems - that will HOPEFULLY start to get sorted when we get this shitty Labour government out and the conservatives back in.
This is a country where you DO serve 2 years for murder (admittedly the guy claimed he was temporarily insane)... I met him. I talked to him. The guy was NOT insane. But that's another story.
Burglars in this country are NOT serving ANY prison time whatsoever.... Because our prisons are too full.
Kids roam the streets and cause all manner of trouble, and the police DO NOTHING... There's nothing they CAN do.... I had bricks thrown at my house. I had a log thrown at my head, that missed by inches... And what did the police do? Fuck all... They have no power... And I live in a decent area. I wasn't allowed to film the kids terrorising my neighbourhood, because *I* could have got into trouble... (police woman told me this on the phone)... And I couldn't dish out any punishment, because again, it'd be me on the chopper.
The kids know their rights. The criminals know their rights. And we live in a country/continent where the criminal seems to have more rights than the victim.
The only thing you can do here when the criminal gives you shit is call the police... and it'll be a special day if they turned up within an hour on a 999 call... Don't say I'm being a fucking drama queen, this is real... And this year.
We moan, because we have lots to moan about... Yes, Britain is STILL great, but it's great because of what we did in the past, not because of the mess it's becoming.
the lower class brits (which are the majority) have always been known to be violent pieces of shit, google soccer hooligans, england has the worst by far
hooliganism has been just about eradicated in England (at least compared to how it used to be), if they want to fight they normally do it a few days before or after the match, normally in a location far from the ground. Eastern and Southern Europe have a much bigger problem with hooligans today than England.
Lower class Americans don't have a very good reputation either (or lower classes anywhere for that matter, I imagine)
To those saying there is nothing wrong with this country... Take you head out of your asses!
The UK is FUCKED right now... Yeah, it's not fucking Fallujah but it's nowhere near where it should be. We have some problems - that will HOPEFULLY start to get sorted when we get this shitty Labour government out and the conservatives back in.
This is a country where you DO serve 2 years for murder (admittedly the guy claimed he was temporarily insane)... I met him. I talked to him. The guy was NOT insane. But that's another story.
Burglars in this country are NOT serving ANY prison time whatsoever.... Because our prisons are too full.
Kids roam the streets and cause all manner of trouble, and the police DO NOTHING... There's nothing they CAN do.... I had bricks thrown at my house. I had a log thrown at my head, that missed by inches... And what did the police do? Fuck all... They have no power... And I live in a decent area. I wasn't allowed to film the kids terrorising my neighbourhood, because *I* could have got into trouble... (police woman told me this on the phone)... And I couldn't dish out any punishment, because again, it'd be me on the chopper.
The kids know their rights. The criminals know their rights. And we live in a country/continent where the criminal seems to have more rights than the victim.
The only thing you can do here when the criminal gives you shit is call the police... and it'll be a special day if they turned up within an hour on a 999 call... Don't say I'm being a fucking drama queen, this is real... And this year.
We moan, because we have lots to moan about... Yes, Britain is STILL great, but it's great because of what we did in the past, not because of the mess it's becoming.
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What I dont get is if you kill some one you get sent down for 14 years only do half and then you are out.
Does that not ring alarm bells that someones life is only worth 7 years in jail?
When need to bring back capital punishment of being hanged, drawn and quartred:
To those saying there is nothing wrong with this country... Take you head out of your asses!
The UK is FUCKED right now... Yeah, it's not fucking Fallujah but it's nowhere near where it should be. We have some problems - that will HOPEFULLY start to get sorted when we get this shitty Labour government out and the conservatives back in.
This is a country where you DO serve 2 years for murder (admittedly the guy claimed he was temporarily insane)... I met him. I talked to him. The guy was NOT insane. But that's another story.
Are you going to base every murder case on that of one guy?
Burglars in this country are NOT serving ANY prison time whatsoever.... Because our prisons are too full.
Show your sources, which convicted burglars have been let of punishment?
Kids roam the streets and cause all manner of trouble, and the police DO NOTHING... There's nothing they CAN do.... I had bricks thrown at my house. I had a log thrown at my head, that missed by inches... And what did the police do? Fuck all... They have no power... And I live in a decent area. I wasn't allowed to film the kids terrorising my neighbourhood, because *I* could have got into trouble... (police woman told me this on the phone)... And I couldn't dish out any punishment, because again, it'd be me on the chopper.
Huh you harp on about the police and law being useless, people dont go to jail the whole thing is a mess yet you wont dish out your own punishment? The police would just let you off they dont care as you say...
The kids know their rights. The criminals know their rights. And we live in a country/continent where the criminal seems to have more rights than the victim.
The only thing you can do here when the criminal gives you shit is call the police... and it'll be a special day if they turned up within an hour on a 999 call... Don't say I'm being a fucking drama queen, this is real... And this year.
We moan, because we have lots to moan about... Yes, Britain is STILL great, but it's great because of what we did in the past, not because of the mess it's becoming.
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