A-Fucking-Men. :thumbsup

This is my pitt, and she is scared shitless of a fucking cat.. yes a cat beats the crap out of her on a daily basis, why? because shes not a vicious dog and never was, never will be, the worse she got was when the baby was born she got pretty protective of her and growled at people thats it..

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Oh and shes one of the best dogs I've ever owned, My sister had a poodle that used to tare the shit out of my arms when it wanted to play because it was so vicious, yet this one, Star, she doesn't do anything, she clamps her teeth down on your hand and the second she feels her tooth hit skin shes automaticly backing off, the most gentle dog i ever seen, hell she even sleeps right next to me in bed, if i'm not shoving her off because im cramped between her and the girlfriend and can't move.

Sorry to hear, good thing your puppy is fine

Don't I see what? That one pit bull owner was a meth addict and abused his dogs? Yes, I do see that.

I also see stories of others pits who have had good owners and still end up killing.

There is nothing anybody can say or do to change my opinion. I never liked pits before the attack and I will certainly never like them now.


Anybody who thinks that pit bulls aren't one of the most dangerous dogs is a complete fool.

Sorry to hear about the cute fluffy one getting hurt..I have a big dog and she is very well behaved. Dont think harsh on the pit bulls I had one and she was a dream, it is like having children they are great as long as you raise them that way.

Dirty house, sleeping on a mattress with a quilt and no mattress cover. Cheap vacuum, furniture, etc......

Stereotypically speaking....Typical image of a pit owner.

And if your dog is so well behaved then why do you feel the need to put a choke collar on it? Those collars are designed for one thing....To control your dog. A dog that's under control would have no use for such a thing. Or maybe you consciously bought it to go along with the "bad ass" stereo type of the dog.

Regardless of how well-trained and loyal a pit bull is, their breed has the innate capability to cause more damage than most other dogs. My docile Golden Retriever would be pretty easy to fend off because he doesn't have the jaw and shoulder muscles that a pit bull does. These are just facts.

people who study martial arts have the "innate ability to cause more damage than most other humans" thus they are MORE DANGEROUS to have around then a drunken crackhead with a gun.
These are just facts.

Yes they are facts , facts that don't wash :)

Facts are always different depending how you look at them

I have been bit twice by golden retrievers , never by a pitbull. go figure.

p.s. golden retrievers have a worse reputation for biting people than pitbulls, especially their own owners.

the breeds responsible for the most bites were Rottweiler (20 per cent), and Golden and Labrador Retriever (15 per cent). CHIRPP ranked the most common breeds causing a bite injury as German Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels, Rottweilers and Golden Retrievers.

I totally agree. Aggressive dog behavior isn't unusual, especially with the breed,the owner needs to be responsible to either train the dog or not put other dogs in danger by allowing him to be off leash. I am sure this wasn't the first incident for this dog the owner is completely negligent.

Is that bites on humans or dogs?

Sorry to hear about Rusty, spooky. He looks adorable!

Bad to hear that :(

blame the owner, my pitt is the nicest dog ever.

I bet you haven't been bitten by pitbulls cause your very wary around them. I have been bitten by dozens of the mainstream type of dogs but never anything that required attention. If you or I ever do get bitten by a pitbull we will most likely end up in hospital...:2 cents:

One thing I have noticed though is that generally the dangerous breeds are much better behaved and diciplined than other breeds, but when they do snap they can kill.

Spooky, no one denies the damage that reactive Pit bulls are capable of. Those of us who understand that it's the owners, not the dogs... want something to be done about these bad owners. That's what people should be advocating about. If you ban the breed, the bad people will still find a way to own one. Or they will find another breed to abuse if they can't. Just like they would if you banned guns. And the good owners and pit pulls will be punished. What are they gonna do.. ban labrador/pit bull mixes, or any dog resembling a Pit bull?

Here's a good example of what breed banning acommplishes... In 1989, Denver, Colorado banned the Pit bull breed. The amount of Pit bull attacks in Denver has not declined since this date. It accomplished nothing. People still own Pit bulls in Denver illegally. In 2004 Colorado passed a law that prohibits the banning of specific breeds. But in Denver they still hunt down Pit bulls and take them away from innocent families. Many people moved out of the city because of this.

They often get the breed of dog wrong in these sensational news stories of pit bull attacks. I remember the media getting it entirely wrong with the Ving Rhames case where his groundskeeper was found dead. Rhames's dogs were actually a Mastiff type and a Bulldog. Not Pit bulls. And they didn't kill the person either like originall reported. I think that case was a great example how the media is incredibly quick to blame pit bulls. They didn't even the get correct dog breed on initial reporting. This is common though.

AaronM says he's seen good pit bulls owned by good owners act just as bad. Huh? It NEVER happens. Every single story I see in the news of Pit bull attacks it's always the tie out dogs that broke loose, never walked, never trained, etc. In a rare case, if a otherwise well behaved dog has cancer, or some other serious disease, he may act out. But this can happen to ANY dog. And good dogs will bite too if you corner them... If you leave them with no other choice.

How did you get him off Rusty?

damn thats crazy

I was talking to the owner of the dog about 50 meters away from where Rusty was being attacked. We ran over and the dog obeyed the owners command to get off. This was a very good owner who had good control over his dog, but the dog still attacked, another 20 seconds and Rusty would be dead. Again this was a supposedly good dog with a good owner and they can still kill.....:disgust

You can't compare the brains of a dog and a human. A human has much more ability to control themselves, they have much more complicated brains that allow themselves to act in society. Dogs can be trained, but are still simple minded and will resort to instinct at times. It's just a ridiculous comparision.

I don't have a problem with pitbulls. If someone wants to own them, fine. But when I turn on the news and hear about dog attacks, it's not from beagles or border collies. It's 99% of the time from pitbulls. Owners should be responsible for the dog and suffer the consequences.

The pitbulls were working off instinct, something they don't have the brain capacity to control. It's the owners that should be put down, not the dogs.

punish the deeds not the breed

oh wait, PITBULLS HAVE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION LET'S KILL EM

How do you know how good the owner was? A good owner will socialize their dogs before they turn five months so these incidents don't happen. This is especially true when you own a Pit bull and take the dog to a dog park. Sorry, but this Pit bull shouldn't have done that if this were the case. There is always a reason why dogs act out. The poster 2x above me is wrong. A well trained and socialized dog doesn't just attack another dog "out of instinct" for no reason at all. That is not normal. They're not wild animals, they are domesticated dogs. Something went wrong with this Pit bull's socialization for him to do that.

Sorry to hear.. glad it was not seriously hurt

LOL are you serious? Maybe you'd think otherwise if I lived in a mansion like you and had a $10,000 vacuume and wait, maybe i didn't take a picture of my dog in a spare storage room that looks like crap? oh damn

Choke collar, hardly son, i don't believe in those, they are mean to animals, she wears a harness now.

Glad your puppy's allright.
Crazy...

i wasn't comparing their brain power, infact the mere fact that humans are smarter should tell you something. I was making a comment regarding your comment that pitbulls have an "innate ability to cause more damage than other dogs". I will give you an example that doesnt involve humans. A giraffe has a greater innate ability to cause damage than a ferret yet you are much more likely to get attacked by a ferret and should be more concerned about ferrets than giraffe's :)



and thus since every dog killed to eat we must be wary of EVERY dog. or were you trying to say only pitbulls will resort to instinct at times ?

and if you turned on the news and they told you to go jump off a bridge would you do so ?

Of course you hear about them more, so they can use their snarly face pitbull graphic. The beagle graphic is lame and cute and wouldnt make the story very interesting :winkwink:

But hey dont trust me , dont trust the news , trust your own friends. I challenge you , go call or ask 10 friends you havent told about the attack about every time they have been attacked by a dog, and find out the truth for yourself.



most of the time i would agree with you but as you state they were working of instinct that they cannot control, as EVERY dog does not just pitbulls, if they are unleashed and not in control then doesn't it seem silly to take your dog into this situation ?

so now that we have established that all dogs work off instinct and all dogs are capable of injury and that you are more likely to be bitten by a different breed , i think that we can come to the conclusion your dog is not safe in the presence of any unleashed dog. We can also establish that humans are much more likely to injur your dog than a dog is so lets add humans to the list. heh

All i am saying is every dog has the ability to be dangerous , pitbulls certainly no more than other breeds, don't buy into media hype or redneck ignorance. Dont put yourself , your dog or your children in a dangerous situation with any dog and you will be as safe as you can be. remember more people get struck by lightning than die by pitbulls, more people are killed by elephants , mosquito's and bee's than pitbulls.

Here is my dog Louis(Cane Corso) and he LOVES little dogs however he just rolled a 150lb presa canario at the dog park for growling at him BUT little dogs can jump,bite and play with him with no worries. Glad your puppy is ok!
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give me a room full of pits or bulldog variety..(yes, they have names like american staffordshire terrier, american bulldog, cane corso ) any day of the week than put in a room full of jack russell terriers or self righteous humans.

People are way more dangerous than pitbulls with their bullshit opinions and self righteousness to exist more than their fellow human who might not have as many material possessions.

poor little guy, he's so adorable!

Too bad she didnt decorate her house according to your standards....

If there is one thing I cant stand is stereotypical judgmental fuckheads.

happened to me as well, I raped the pitbull and ever since he brings me a bowl of dog food at 8am sharp

Seems the only people who defend pitbulls own them.

No fucking doubt.

Good posting and very true. Dogs will fight. That is why I do not take my German Shepherd to dog parks anymore. She likes to fight with other dogs and I do not want her to hurt another dog.

The ppl with the "kill pitbulls cuz they are killing machines" are so fucking ignorant its painful. Any dog is what you make it. Are pitbulls strong? Sure they are, but if you don't raise them to attack and hurt people you have nothing to worry about. Pitbulls are the most human friendly dogs I have ever owned. I have 2 of them and they wouldn't hurt a flee. My blood boils at the attitudes and remarks ignorant people make about how mean and and viscious they are. You can't blame a dog for being a dog. You also can't blame a dog for being raised by a fuck up human who shouldn't own the dog in the first place.

May I ask. Why did you have a dog of that size and age running around with pitbulls and larger dogs in the first place? Of course if it get's in a fight it's gonna get it's ass kicked. It doesn't belong running around with medium/large sized dogs. Whether it was a pitbull or a golden retriever it didn't belong there.

I go to the dog park all the time and my 2 american pitbull terriers have never attacked anything. Have they both been attacked? Yes they have.

Don't blame the breed of dog for something you did wrong. You shoulda had your dog with dogs it's own size. I am sorry your dog got beat up, that's never a cool thing to experience, but please don't blame "pitbulls" for what happened. Blame yourself or the owner of the pitbull if in fact the dog was animal aggressive.

Poor little puppy. I am glad to hear that he is OK. Most pit bulls are fine dogs unless their owner is a moron (which is sadly all too often the case).

Well that would make sense. Until you own one, you don't understand how awesome american pitbull terriers really are. If all you ever hear about in the press is how mean and viscious they are, you wouldn't understand that they are the complete opposite until you own one or spend time with one.

I know so many people who had the same ignorant view on how "mean" they are. I can't tell you how many times my 2 pitbulls have totally changed peoples views on them. They are just dogs. They aren't born killers. Unfortunately because they look intimidating, they have fallen into the hands of too many wrong people. In turn, they are being raised and treated like shit which is causing bad situations, and their breeds reputation is now completely destroyed. Dont blame the breed, blame the fucking shithole human race for making them what they are.

Hows your puppy doing? Not a permanent limp I hope? ...I think we need more pictures now that it's been a few days. :winkwink:

Great post Walrus. It gives me a little hope to see that there are people out there who understand the problem is not the dog, it's the bad owners.

I had Rusty there cause the crowd that go there (around 10 to 15) have mainly small dogs with a couple of labs and golden retrievers thrown in. Been going there with rusty every day for over a month with no problems apart from the usual little 10 second fights over a ball or something. This guy comes along with his pitbull and whilst my gut told me to leave I didn't want to be a wuss so stayed. I should have left. Anyway Rusty is fine now.

We have a small Pug/Poodle mix. But he's tough as fuck. He can handle himself easily at a dog park. But yesterday he was overwhelmed by 4 large breeds. 1 pit, 2 wolf mixes and a german shepard. They really scared the fucking hell out of him. He can handle 1 of them, but they all ganged up and tried to mouth fuck him.

I scared the bastards out, picked up the dog and walked to a different area.

I didn't say ANYTHING to the owners, just nodded and smiled and walked away. Why? My dog can overplay too. Every single animal is different and the thresholds are different.

But biting and drawing blood = too far and I would have just walked out too.

Yah man, I hear yah. But if your gut told ya something was wrong, you shoulda went with it and removed your dog. I do it all the time, when I am at the park if an aggressive dog or a dog that I think might cause an issue comes in, I leave. I know if shit hits the fan and it isn't my dogs fault, they will still get blamed because they are pitbulls. Your dog, especially at its size can't help itself, it's just a dog. You need to make sure it's safe. I see peoplle all the time at parks bring in their dogs who clearly shouldn't be there. I take my dogs and remove them. I am sorry about your dog though, seeing your dog fight isn't fun. Mine have been attacked by larger dogs and breaking up fights with stronger dogs is very scary. Glad your little guy made it out alive.

Please don't blame the pitbull breed for what happened though. Blame the owner and pretty much yourself if you knew the situation could get ugly and you chose to keep your dog in it.