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Old 07-14-2008, 06:57 PM   #51
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wow, and me thinking it was the other way... I mean, having to write COMPLIANT CROSS BROWSER CODE: checked.
Having to write it again so it works on non-compliant browsers (like IE): checked.
Having to write it YET AGAIN so it works on non-compliant browsers different versions (like IE6 and older and IE7): checked.
being prepared for YET ANOTHER VERSION once IE8 rares its ugly head... checked
cursing and banging head against the wall because IE isn't compliant with anything, not even their own absurd laws across different versions: checked

that's the story of my life...
I'm quoting you only to iterate "IE 5.1 / Mac" to see if you twitch. I'm kind of an ass like that.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:03 PM   #52
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I'm quoting you only to iterate "IE 5.1 / Mac" to see if you twitch. I'm kind of an ass like that.
you're an ass, agreed

don't even get me started with Mac, but at least you know Mac is consistent and once you're happy like a dog with 2 tails when you have your nice snippet of IE code you find out it won't work, or work from time to time, or only on some versions and some not

anyway, I save my love for better love objects than a browser
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:08 PM   #53
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Code for Firefox and tweak for Ie
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:12 PM   #54
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There is only one reason why Firefox became so popular. It's because affiliates were getting 50 cents per download. So all the tech sites wrote shill articles about how amazing FireFox was, and then framed the articles out with Firefox ads.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:45 PM   #55
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There is only one reason why Firefox became so popular. It's because affiliates were getting 50 cents per download. So all the tech sites wrote shill articles about how amazing FireFox was, and then framed the articles out with Firefox ads.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:01 PM   #56
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I gave up on Firefox. I'm not willing to work with something as buggy as that still was after beta testing.. not sure what version, doesn't matter. I won't use it.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:10 PM   #57
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what a fucking retarded thread...
You really need to learn a thing or two about standardsand as for the Windows Media Player, use something else for god sake. You cant use a microsoft specific program on the internet, THAT my friend is retarded.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:11 PM   #58
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:15 PM   #59
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:28 PM   #60
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what a fucking retarded thread...
You really need to learn a thing or two about standardsand as for the Windows Media Player, use something else for god sake. You cant use a microsoft specific program on the internet, THAT my friend is retarded.
Below is really the specific issue that motivated this post, I just mentioned media player
for the heck of it.


And if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd already know about this.
But you are just another numb-nut idiot shouting out retarded shit you know nothing about.

You can't fix this with html code, you Simian primate.

http://www.yoism.org/?q=node/152#flash

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A problem playing Flash video using the Firefox browser in Windows
In implementing the JW Flash player solution, it came to our attention that there is a general bug that causes Flash videos to malfunction when using the recent versions of Adobe Flash and Firefox. In the most common form of the problem, the video starts in silence and plays for 2 to 4 seconds and then it stops playing altogether, though the video appears to continue to load. The problem is intermittent and sometimes everything works fine or can be temporarily alleviated by restarting your computer. But the problem returns and it is common enough so that many people using Firefox have noted it.

One of the difficulties with an intermittent problem is that almost any change may APPEAR to have worked simply because the problem is intermittent and it may just happen to be in its working phase when tested after an ineffective fix is attempted. Thus there are bound to be zillions of APPARENT solutions experienced that the user later finds out didn't really work. Because discussion forums of bugs gather together the experience of large numbers of users, if only a small percentage of the apparent pseudo-solutions are posted before they are found to be ineffective, the result is that many false solutions appear on the Internet. Thus, we had to wade through all sorts of illusory solutions in addition to the ones we created by experimenting.

Note: This means that most of the solutions you will find posted elsewhere will only work for a period of time and then the problem will resurface. If you find a solution that seems to work, please test it for a few days. You can test your solution on this page, which seems to generate the problem with greater frequency. If after a few days of testing (including visits to that problematic page), your solution still works, please let us know. (Post a comment on this page or email us.)

Here we offer two solutions that actually work. If they do not work for you, please let us know. As Yoans committed to empirical responsibility, we don't want to offer up another false reality ;-)

The two solutions to the Flash/Firefox bug.

One is to use Internet Explorer to view pages with Flash video. Unfortunately, this option may be anathema to some Firefox users. So the other option that works is to roll back the Adobe Flash Player plugin for Firefox from version 9 to the last iteration of version 8 (8r42). If you also have IE installed, you can keep it using the latest version of the Flash plugin for IE (see below).

How to roll back the Adobe Flash plugin.

Note that there are at least two versions of each revision of Flash for Windows, the flashplayer#r##_win.exe which is the plugin for Firefox and flashplaye#r##_winax.exe which is the Active X version for IE. Here's how to roll back the plugin for Firefox.

Download this zip file and unzip it. (If the link doesn't work, click here.)


Run FlashplayerUninstallerforWindows.exe. This will uninstall your Flash plugins for both IE and Firefox. Don't worry, reinstallation of Flash is VERY fast and easy. After running the uninstaller, check the details it offers to see if your computer needs a reboot to finish the uninstallation. If it does, or if you just want to be on the safe side, reboot your computer.


Run Flashplaye8forFF-Version8r42.exe, which will install the Flash Player plugin for Firefox.


To stop Adobe Flash from constantly offering to update itself to the latest version, click this link and on the fourth tab, uncheck "Notify me when an update to Adobe Flash is available."


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Old 07-14-2008, 10:47 PM   #61
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I think it really doesnt matter if we like firefox or not. Bottom line is there are too many firefox users=money making potential. We cant ignore the numbers, even if the percentage is a lot lower than ie, I personally am not willing to lose that audience.

Personally, I love firefox and use it all the time.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:49 PM   #62
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:53 PM   #63
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Never got into it.I like Opera and it's been stable
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:13 AM   #64
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:43 AM   #65
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only thing worse than IE is, seeing a 'programmer' defend it over FF3
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:24 AM   #66
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:33 AM   #67
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Firefox is pretty good but soetimes it loads slower for me than internet explorer and I guess it's because it uses more resources.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:14 AM   #68
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The only really good thing MS has ever done is windows Xp.
FF has always been ahead of IE in many things, like the list of SE, or the tab browsing feature.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:00 AM   #69
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I love FF, but hate Safari, yikes!
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:55 AM   #70
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Below is really the specific issue that motivated this post, I just mentioned media player
for the heck of it.


And if you weren't so fucking stupid you'd already know about this.
But you are just another numb-nut idiot shouting out retarded shit you know nothing about.

You can't fix this with html code, you Simian primate.

http://www.yoism.org/?q=node/152#flash





my stupid little friend... that is a firefox bug and IE has far more of these than FF.
That does not prove anything and as stated before this thread is retarded. It is your job to make your code readable for IE, Safari, Opera and FF or you fail.

There are obsticles with each browser which has to be overcome. I have a mainsheet.css, IE55_hacks.css, IE6_hacks.css, IE7_hacks.css because IE is too god damn stupid and reads everything differently from version to version.... However I dont need a FF hacks sheet.
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my stupid little friend... that is a firefox bug and IE has far more of these than FF.
That does not prove anything and as stated before this thread is retarded. It is your job to make your code readable for IE, Safari, Opera and FF or you fail.

There are obsticles with each browser which has to be overcome. I have a mainsheet.css, IE55_hacks.css, IE6_hacks.css, IE7_hacks.css because IE is too god damn stupid and reads everything differently from version to version.... However I dont need a FF hacks sheet.
Come on everyone knows IE is the best browser on the planet!!!!!!!!

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It's a new age kid IE is losing ground every day and you're losing out on a big % of your audience if you only code for IE.
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IE leaks memory. It keeps on piling up as you surf and it doesn't release them when you close the tabs.
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My firefox crashes every 10 minutes. How does that "rock"?
I only restart mine if I install an update... so I pretty much keep it running all year around... never crashes...
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Code for Firefox and tweak for Ie
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:54 PM   #75
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I like FF better than IE.

And you must ALWAYS check your stuff on multiple browsers, otherwise you'll loose quite some traffic!
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