Geert Wilders islam critic film "Fitna" online.

[Global Accés Delgado]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

Damn really makes you wonder about Islam doesn't it?! Ofcause we should remember that this might be taken out of context, but a bit scary still.

[donnie]

MIGHT be taken out of context??? You cut together a film with some random Afghanistan monkeys and ?news paper headlines? and call it ?the truth about Islam?.

[Global Accés Delgado]

Originally Posted by donnie

MIGHT be taken out of context??? You cut together a film with some random Afghanistan monkeys and ?news paper headlines? and call it ?the truth about Islam?.

I'm not saying that I condone with the film, but seriously how many out of the muslim religion do you see smearing their children in blood and teach their 3 year old to call jews apes and pigs?

[donnie]

Originally Posted by Global Accés Delgado

I'm not saying that I condone with the film, but seriously how many out of the muslim religion do you see smearing their children in blood and teach their 3 year old to call jews apes and pigs?

Those are Shia Muslims (basically a sect and not really considered a Muslims). I am Muslim and I don?t even know what they are doing. How many Muslims do you have in Denmark? How money bloody children have you seen? I have seen some pretty fucked up things Christian sects do to their children but I am not stupid to believe all Christians are the same. Or even a majotity?

I can?t speak for that child calling Jews apes and pigs but that is not taken from the Quran (Quran does call Jews other names but not pigs and apes). Probably a Palestinian child told by her parents what to say. If I was Palestinian I would probably call Jews much worse names?

I am just saying the movie is funny. If you need something to fuel your hate against Muslims there are much ?better? movies all around the net. You can find 10 on youtube by just typing in ?Muslim?.

[Global Accés Delgado]

About 10% of the danish population is muslim and most behave very nicely and abides by danish laws. But at the same time, 80% of people between the age of 18 and 25 that are jailed on the weekends in Denmark on assault charges are people of muslim background. And this is a fact, not something I'm just making up.

Ofcause I know that what we see in this film is not condoned by the majority of the muslim community.

And again, I'm not saying I like the film, it's just food for thought....!

[donnie]

Originally Posted by Global Accés Delgado

About 10% of the danish population is muslim and most behave very nicely and abides by danish laws. But at the same time, 80% of people between the age of 18 and 25 that are jailed on the weekends in Denmark on assault charges are people of muslim background. And this is a fact, not something I'm just making up.

Ofcause I know that what we see in this film is not condoned by the majority of the muslim community.

And again, I'm not saying I like the film, it's just food for thought....!

80% sounds a lot but I am not going to argue that. But have you ever considered that it is easier to arrest somebody who doesn?t look like an average Danish person?

I have studied law here in Sweden and I know firsthand that police are more likely to arrest a ?black? person than a Swedish person. It is easier to arrest a person matching ?black man? description than a person matching ?average Danish/Swedish, blond blue eyed? description.

I really don?t think it has anything to do with religion. The way Islam is described as a ?terrorist religion? you would think we would have bombs blowing up around Europe every day I mean there are 50+ million Muslims in Europe.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

still loading over here.. liveleak is slow as hell for me.

[xmas13]

I was missing donnie terrorist ass licking.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Just saw it but wasnt that impressive i thought it would be. Just a couple scary scenes, some bad words out of the quoran and thats itö. Expected a bit more from it.. its only 10mins btw..

[xmas13]

3,000,000 views in one day on Liveleak.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by Machete Rodriguez

Its only 10mins btw..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_(film)
Running time 16:48

Oh man, soooo shooorttttt. I'm disappointed even before watching it.

[bobby666]

i see more bombs comming up....after that film.....

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by bobby666

i see more bombs comming up....after that film.....

Reaction after the release of the movie

The reaction was partly mild in comparison with what was expected, with some Muslim delegates describing it as ?not as jarring as anticipated?, saying they were ?extremely relieved?. A worldwide violent reaction is not expected by several sources, in stark contrast with threats made by Islamic leaders in the months before the release of the film.[61][62][63]

In a televised reaction following the release, Mr. Balkenende, Prime Minister of the Netherlands came with a reaction on behalf of the Dutch government.[64]

Amongst other things, it stated:

"The film equates Islam with violence. We reject this interpretation. The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence. In fact, the victims are often also Muslims... ...We therefore regret that Mr Wilders has released this film. We believe it serves no purpose other than to cause offence."[64]

Dutch parliamentarians of the largest political parties, Pieter van Geel (CDA), Mariëtte Hamer (PvdA) and Mark Rutte (VVD) stated that it is sad that the film does not present any solutions to current problems in the Dutch society - integration of muslim immigrants and muslim extremism - and invited Mr. Wilders to discuss possible solutions in the parliament.[65]

According to Der Spiegel, a speaker for a Muslim organization, Yusuf Altuntas, said that Wilders "is obviously looking to push the limits, but he resists crossing them." For instance, in the film a ripping sound overlaid with imagery of the Qur'an is said to be the ripping of a page from the phone book, and thunder sounds are replacing what might otherwise be perceived as bomb explosion sounds. The Arabic expert Leo Kwarten on the other hand is quoted to have said that "these subtleties may however be lost in the Arabic world."[20]

[stephane76]

Originally Posted by donnie

MIGHT be taken out of context??? You cut together a film with some random Afghanistan monkeys and ?news paper headlines? and call it ?the truth about Islam?.

gonna have to agree with you
there are extremists in every religion

[biskoppen]

Originally Posted by donnie

MIGHT be taken out of context??? You cut together a film with some random Afghanistan monkeys and ?news paper headlines? and call it ?the truth about Islam?.

How does the "it's only a few muslims who's behaving like the stone age" hold up with whole villages all over the middle east gather in the town center to hang or stone a criminal?... I repeat, whole villages

[donnie]

Originally Posted by biskoppen

How does the "it's only a few muslims who's behaving like the stone age" hold up with whole villages all over the middle east gather in the town center to hang or stone a criminal?... I repeat, whole villages

Because they are 500 years behind the rest of the world... Middle East is a fucked up place. But you have more Muslims in Indonesia than in whole Middle East.

[Global Accés Delgado]

Originally Posted by donnie

80% sounds a lot but I am not going to argue that. But have you ever considered that it is easier to arrest somebody who doesn’t look like an average Danish person?

I have studied law here in Sweden and I know firsthand that police are more likely to arrest a “black” person than a Swedish person. It is easier to arrest a person matching “black man” description than a person matching “average Danish/Swedish, blond blue eyed” description.

Yea it sounds like alot, but it's true. I used to be in law enforcement and these were the official numbers back in 2005 from the court in Copenhagen.... So again, not something I just made up.

But then again, you are right in saying that a black/muslim person is more likely to be arrested than a danish person - sad but true. But that alone doesn't explain the higher crimerate.

[spunkmister]

Originally Posted by Global Accés Delgado

Yea it sounds like alot, but it's true. I used to be in law enforcement and these were the official numbers back in 2005 from the court in Copenhagen.... So again, not something I just made up.

But then again, you are right in saying that a black/muslim person is more likely to be arrested than a danish person - sad but true. But that alone doesn't explain the higher crimerate.

how about social economics? does the average Muslim in Denmark live a good comfortable life or are they usually the lower economic class? I dont know what the situation in Denmark is but just curious to see.

There are more African American in prisons in the US than any other race, and that has a lot to do with their social standing, education and so forth, not religion.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by spunkmister

how about social economics? does the average Muslim in Denmark live a good comfortable life or are they usually the lower economic class? I dont know what the situation in Denmark is but just curious to see.

There are more African American in prisons in the US than any other race, and that has a lot to do with their social standing, education and so forth, not religion.

Go fuck yourself, you side with criminals instead of victims, you are a low life and don't deserve to live in a civilized country.

[xmas13]

Film is about hardcore radicals who want to exterminate people and give death penalties like candies.

Education is related to theft and economic crime indeed. The more educated, the more you can steal.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by donnie

80% sounds a lot but I am not going to argue that. But have you ever considered that it is easier to arrest somebody who doesn?t look like an average Danish person?

bullshit. In holland its the same story. We have alot of different cultures and for the most part every culture is integrated succesfully here, except for the muslims. They flock together, and always pick fights with dutchies when going out. Im talking about the young generation here, very aggressive annoying behaviour. There are ofcourse exceptions to this rule. But in the nightlife, when you see a group of muslim guys 9 out of 10 times they are fighting with other peeps later that night
I don't have much problems with them now since im older but when you're 16-20 living in holland i bet your ass everyone has had problems with these guys around that age.

[spunkmister]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Go fuck yourself, you side with criminals instead of victims, you are a low life and don't deserve to live in a civilized country.

wow never thought Id encounter someone that actually made Jet look like a scholar.

[xmas13]

No doubt Islam must be reformed, law enforcement and social system too, to meet new technological, immigration and economic challenges.
But then there is a strong opposition to reforms, from lefties and muslims alike.

[donnie]

Originally Posted by nico-t

bullshit. In holland its the same story. We have alot of different cultures and for the most part every culture is integrated succesfully here, except for the muslims. They flock together, and always pick fights with dutchies when going out. Im talking about the young generation here, very aggressive annoying behaviour. There are ofcourse exceptions to this rule. But in the nightlife, when you see a group of muslim guys 9 out of 10 times they are fighting with other peeps later that night
I don't have much problems with them now since im older but when you're 16-20 living in holland i bet your ass everyone has had problems with these guys around that age.

What does it have to do with Islam?? Do you seriously believe they are picking a fight because they are Muslims?? If they were religious they probably wouldn't participate in local nightlife.

Problem you are describing is due to failed integration politics all around the Europe. It has nothing to do with any religion.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by spunkmister

wow never thought Id encounter someone that actually made Jet look like a scholar.

Why are you registered on an adult board if you are a rocket scientist? Don't you have anything better to do?

Since you want to understand criminals, try to imagine for a second that your daughter gets raped by a man, what would you say? Poor man?

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by donnie

Problem you are describing is due to failed integration politics all around the Europe. It has nothing to do with any religion.

Failed politics made you a terrorist ass licker?

Newssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

[xmas13]

Stalin and his German cousin were abused children, is it an excuse for their life of crimes????????????

[xmas13]

Arabs, Indians are very fine people. They have great potential and can contribute so much to modernity.
Arabs and Indians have been sleeping for centuries.
I'm sure someday they will wake up from their long nightmare, like the Chinese and the Russians.
Europeans must help, its their duty.

[Isradude]

Watch this !!!!!


https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkZebJAd_68

[pornask]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Go fuck yourself, you side with criminals instead of victims, you are a low life and don't deserve to live in a civilized country.

considering what piece of shit, clueless fuck you are, I'm surprised you were able to come with a sentence that makes sense. I agree with you

[Phoenix]

shouldn't be too long until we have another world war

[banglacash]

there has been much more critical movies about islam but i like this want a lot because it pisses off a lot of muslims. islam is a dangerous religion and the west needs to realize that.