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Old 07-09-2008, 04:59 PM   #1
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Fist Fucked Again :(

Looks like its that time again, time to bend over and waste countless hours going over endless lines of coed trying to make Fire Fox or (Fist Fuck) even read my html properly.

This time, seem it can not read my Flash videos, just comes up as a error on to of the usually fact that FF have big problems with any type of fixed table sizes. If any of you can spot the problem, in the script please let me know as I am at a lost this time.

This script came directly from the adobe, yet Fist Fuck has a problem with it (big shock I know)

BTW what % of people even use this piece of shit? I am personally sick of dealing with them, if they drop below 10% of viewers I for one will permanently stop altering my scripts for them. I hear people taking about suing Tubes everyday, But I for one want to sue FF and get some monetary compensation for the endless hours I spend dealing with it.

Anyway here the script you guys let me know if you can spot it.

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>GayTubes05</title>
<script language="javascript">AC_FL_RunContent = 0;</script>
<script src="AC_RunActiveContent.js" language="javascript"></script>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#0099ff">
<!--url's used in the movie-->
<!--text used in the movie-->
<!-- saved from url=(0013)about:internet -->
<script language="javascript">
if (AC_FL_RunContent == 0) {
alert("This page requires AC_RunActiveContent.js.");
} else {
AC_FL_RunContent(
'codebase', 'http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0',
'width', '609',
'height', '500',
'src', 'GayTubes05',
'quality', 'high',
'pluginspage', 'http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer',
'align', 'middle',
'play', 'true',
'loop', 'true',
'scale', 'showall',
'wmode', 'window',
'devicefont', 'false',
'id', 'GayTubes05',
'bgcolor', '#0099ff',
'name', 'GayTubes05',
'menu', 'true',
'allowFullScreen', 'false',
'allowScriptAccess','sameDomain',
'movie', 'GayTubes05',
'salign', ''
); //end AC code
}
</script>
<noscript>
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" width="609" height="500" id="GayTubes05" align="middle">
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<param name="allowFullScreen" value="false" />
<param name="movie" value="GayTubes05.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#0099ff" /> <embed src="GayTubes05.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#0099ff" width="609" height="500" name="GayTubes05" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />
</object>
</noscript>
</body>
</html>
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:06 PM   #2
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Its always the other way around for me. Things work great in FF and IE sucks.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:11 PM   #3
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What the hell are you doing wrong LOL

Even adobe can not make their scripts work with this piece of fucking shit, or do not care to try. I really do not see how FF could work when others do not?

FF can not really read tables very well, or anything else frankly so any type of detailed work is almost pointless. I really do wish we could stat a Fist Fuck boycott, till they fixed that piece of shit or took it off the market.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:15 PM   #4
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i've never had a problem wit firefox reading any of my html. ie is always the one shitting the bed.

if you're having that much trouble with it, you could always filter people using firefox to a page with a slightly different, more ff friendly layout.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:16 PM   #5
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Maybe if any of you happen to have a script that will play flash vids in both IE and Fist Fuck that might really help. But if adobe is not using a FF compatible script maybe there is a reason.
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:17 PM   #6
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Maybe if any of you happen to have a script that will play flash vids in both IE and Fist Fuck that might really help. But if adobe is not using a FF compatible script maybe there is a reason.
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Firefox is w3c compliant IE is not.

Add this line to the top of your html

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:20 PM   #8
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No I just need to try to get a script that will play flash vids on both IE and FF. I am not creating a whole new site just because FF can not create a good product, I would rather punish the viewers that use it until they stop
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:22 PM   #9
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Firefox is w3c compliant IE is not.

Add this line to the top of your html

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
Thax man I will try that, I hope its that easy I really am bogged down into so much work as it is. An easy fix does sound good right now
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:31 PM   #10
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If Firefox is fist fuck then what is internet explorer? Fucked by a horse?
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:33 PM   #11
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I did try that script maybe I put it in the wrong place but does not work, still have the same problem


<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Gay Tube-Barely Legal Guys</title>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<script language="javascript">AC_FL_RunContent = 0;</script>
<script src="http://barelylegalguys.com/member/AC_RunActiveContent.js" language="javascript"></script>
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" >
<!--[if lt IE 7]>
<script defer type="text/javascript" src="pngfix.js"></script>
<![endif]-->


<link href="/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript" src="/js/ajax.js"></script>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">

// ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Menu = {timer : null, current : null};
Menu.getStyle = function(name){
if(document.getElementById) return document.getElementById(name).style;
else if(document.all) return document.all[name].style;
else if(document.layers) return document.layers[name];
}
Menu.show = function(name){
if(this.timer) clearTimeout(this.timer);
this.getStyle(name).visibility = "visible";
this.current = name;
}
Menu.hide = function(){
this.timer = setTimeout("Menu.doHide()",300);
}
Menu.doHide = function(){
if(this.current){
this.getStyle(this.current).visibility = "hidden";
this.current = null;
}
}

// ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
function swapClass(field) {
if (field.className == "field0") {
field.className = "field1";
} else if (field.className == "field1") {
field.className = "field0";
}
}
</script>
</head>
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:34 PM   #12
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If Firefox is fist fuck then what is internet explorer? Fucked by a horse?
IE would be the Work Horse I guess as its the only one will to work for the most part
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #13
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has to be above the <head>

example

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
<head profile="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<meta name="generator" content="HTML Tidy for Mac OS X (vers 1st March 2004), see www.w3.org" />

<meta name="keywords" content="W3C, World Wide Web, Web, WWW, Consortium, computer, access, accessibility, semantic, worldwide, W3, HTML, XML, standard, language, technology, link, CSS, RDF, XSL, Berners-Lee, Berners, Lee, style sheet, cascading, schema, XHTML, mobile, SVG, PNG, PICS, DOM, SMIL, MathML, markup, Amaya, Jigsaw, free, open source, software" />
<meta name="description" content="The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an international consortium where Member organizations, a full-time staff, and the public work together to develop Web standards. W3C primarily pursues its mission through the creation of Web standards and guidelines designed to ensure long-term growth for the Web. Over 400 organizations are Members of the Consortium. W3C is jointly run by the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (MIT CSAIL) in the USA, the European Research Consortium for Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM) headquartered in France, Keio University in Japan, and has additional Offices worldwide." />

<title>World Wide Web Consortium - Web Standards</title>
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FF sucks ridiculous ass, I'm surprised there's still dumbasses who would use that piece of shit browser. Bunch of wannabe fanboys...
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has to be above the <head>

example

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-US" lang="en-US">
<head profile="http://www.w3.org/2000/08/w3c-synd/#"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<meta name="generator" content="HTML Tidy for Mac OS X (vers 1st March 2004), see www.w3.org" />

<meta name="keywords" content="W3C, World Wide Web, Web, WWW, Consortium, computer, access, accessibility, semantic, worldwide, W3, HTML, XML, standard, language, technology, link, CSS, RDF, XSL, Berners-Lee, Berners, Lee, style sheet, cascading, schema, XHTML, mobile, SVG, PNG, PICS, DOM, SMIL, MathML, markup, Amaya, Jigsaw, free, open source, software" />
<meta name="description" content="The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an international consortium where Member organizations, a full-time staff, and the public work together to develop Web standards. W3C primarily pursues its mission through the creation of Web standards and guidelines designed to ensure long-term growth for the Web. Over 400 organizations are Members of the Consortium. W3C is jointly run by the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (MIT CSAIL) in the USA, the European Research Consortium for Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM) headquartered in France, Keio University in Japan, and has additional Offices worldwide." />

<title>World Wide Web Consortium - Web Standards</title>

I do really appreciate your help man, but all that did was create more space at the top of the page. Here is what I did

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Gay Tube-Barely Legal Guys</title>
<script language="javascript">AC_FL_RunContent = 0;</script>
<script src="http://barelylegalguys.com/member/AC_RunActiveContent.js" language="javascript"></script>
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" >
<!--[if lt IE 7]>
<script defer type="text/javascript" src="pngfix.js"></script>
<![endif]-->


<link href="/styles.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript" src="/js/ajax.js"></script>

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">

// ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Menu = {timer : null, current : null};
Menu.getStyle = function(name){
if(document.getElementById) return document.getElementById(name).style;
else if(document.all) return document.all[name].style;
else if(document.layers) return document.layers[name];
}
Menu.show = function(name){
if(this.timer) clearTimeout(this.timer);
this.getStyle(name).visibility = "visible";
this.current = name;
}
Menu.hide = function(){
this.timer = setTimeout("Menu.doHide()",300);
}
Menu.doHide = function(){
if(this.current){
this.getStyle(this.current).visibility = "hidden";
this.current = null;
}
}

// ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
function swapClass(field) {
if (field.className == "field0") {
field.className = "field1";
} else if (field.className == "field1") {
field.className = "field0";
}
}
</script>
</head>
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FF sucks ridiculous ass, I'm surprised there's still dumbasses who would use that piece of shit browser. Bunch of wannabe fanboys...
Ya if I happen to come across the creator of FF some day I am going to punch him right in the face. If I was him I would hide, and not show myself in public as I am sure other want to kick his ass too.
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w3ll I dont know bout all that but it looks intr3sting
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jst bump this thread.....
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Ya if I happen to come across the creator of FF some day I am going to punch him right in the face. If I was him I would hide, and not show myself in public as I am sure other want to kick his ass too.
I'm just as frustrated. Wannabe browsers should be banned, but sadly, for as long as there are enough people without clue they will make themselves believe that fist fuck is actually worth shit even though it's piece of crap just because they saw it on some site that they should use fist fuck. Never mind that it's a piece of shit browser that's worthless, they're gonna use it and promote it just so they can be different. That's about as far as their undeveloped brains get. Almost as pathetic as mac fanboys.
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:stoned don't blame ff ...

serisouly, blame adobe's code... cause if FF is really the source of the problem... adobe sucks not making their things compatible with it.

.. I can say that ff is the best browser for now, rendering html the best and having the least css bugs.

IE7 is not so bad ! but still to many ppl using IE6 .. IE6 is a pain in the ass for any web developper :D (ok had to say it)

FF is growing every month in % sadly for you

For your bug I dont really know the adobe generated code.
If you know a little about html and javacript .. you could use the JW FLV MEDIA PLAYER 4.0 wich is greatly working. ( i cant link in replies yet, just google it if you want )

Generated code is never perfect as an exemple, 'dreamweaver' DB auto generated function witch contributed to spread the last sql/xss injection virus ( silent love china, anyone knows ? )

Anyway, wish i could help, good luck with this.
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http://www.jeroenwijering.com/ try this player, and use the wizard to generate your code.
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I'm just as frustrated. Wannabe browsers should be banned, but sadly, for as long as there are enough people without clue they will make themselves believe that fist fuck is actually worth shit even though it's piece of crap just because they saw it on some site that they should use fist fuck. Never mind that it's a piece of shit browser that's worthless, they're gonna use it and promote it just so they can be different. That's about as far as their undeveloped brains get. Almost as pathetic as mac fanboys.
Ive used and tested all them out there, Ill stick with FF.
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could be a simple fix, whats the url?

the jabberwocky player is keen and works well within a division and firefox will comply...

had to help out a couple clients with this since the update...
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I'm just as frustrated. Wannabe browsers should be banned, but sadly, for as long as there are enough people without clue they will make themselves believe that fist fuck is actually worth shit even though it's piece of crap just because they saw it on some site that they should use fist fuck. Never mind that it's a piece of shit browser that's worthless, they're gonna use it and promote it just so they can be different. That's about as far as their undeveloped brains get. Almost as pathetic as mac fanboys.
Ya, I really do not want to even bother with making sure these FF fuckers can see any videos at all, Maybe just a way to place a error message that says (Fist Fuck not supported Download a real fucking browser)

What really pisses me off is the expect me to comprise my work, just so they can pass around this crap and call it a browser a ?browser?

Is it just me or should a browser well be capable of browsing? U will not see FF at any porn shows, and if you do I bet its behind bulletproof glass.
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http://www.jeroenwijering.com/ try this player, and use the wizard to generate your code.

I can try different scripts but I create my own player with adobe professional, and not going to change my player for Fist Fuck. Look Adobe created Flash in the first place its Fist Fucks job to make their piece of shit work with them Not the other way around.

I really can not change the player, as I use my defendant types of ?skins? for player and not going to compromise my work or do a ½ ass job so that FF can FF can read it

Any of you have a script that will play flash vids in Fist Fuck?
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could be a simple fix, whats the url?

the jabberwocky player is keen and works well within a division and firefox will comply...

had to help out a couple clients with this since the update...

Ya just need a script that works, I need to have the options of creating my own players and custom ones. See this is what I am saying, they compromise my ability to create good sites do to their piece of shit product.
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could be a simple fix, whats the url?

the jabberwocky player is keen and works well within a division and firefox will comply...

had to help out a couple clients with this since the update...
Here is a URL, Its Gay Porn so be warned http://barelylegalguys.com/member/gaytube48.htm I can not seem to get the script to work at all, and just look at the differences between the IE presentation and the FF one. If anyone can look at this and really say FF is worth a crap lets hear it.

If any one has a fix please let me know, its not the player and I need to use professional skins this Mickey mouse stuff is not going to work or be acceptable. I just need a Adobe
compatible FF script, and if they do not have a Adobe compatible script then that should just about sum up my argument that they should be banned.
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oh noes.. the gays!!!


hehe anyway// all i can see as an issue is two or three spacing issues around your script picture kickout... just surround those in divions and add it to your css and walla!!!! ff is good man... IE is the stubborn older brother...

i didnt look in depth but i really think your problem would be solved with the divisions...
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I'm just as frustrated. Wannabe browsers should be banned, but sadly, for as long as there are enough people without clue they will make themselves believe that fist fuck is actually worth shit even though it's piece of crap just because they saw it on some site that they should use fist fuck. Never mind that it's a piece of shit browser that's worthless, they're gonna use it and promote it just so they can be different. That's about as far as their undeveloped brains get. Almost as pathetic as mac fanboys.
if such things make you so angry, may i suggest stepping away from the computer for a while?
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Your player is working fine for me in FF 3.
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oh noes.. the gays!!!


hehe anyway// all i can see as an issue is two or three spacing issues around your script picture kickout... just surround those in divions and add it to your css and walla!!!! ff is good man... IE is the stubborn older brother...

i didnt look in depth but i really think your problem would be solved with the divisions...
Thax I will try to find out what the problem is, I just can not be stuck using 1 payer or another I need to have the ability to control my skins if you know what 'skins' are
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:46 PM   #32
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if such things make you so angry, may i suggest stepping away from the computer for a while?
Ya FF always gets me really pissed I guess, I am about t9o take a nice 420 break right now
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:47 PM   #33
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Your player is working fine for me in FF 3.

Thats wierd? Let me check and see what FF I am using, can anyone else see the FL vid in FF?
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Ok guys here is a URL of just the player script http://barelylegalguys.com/member/fltest.htm

Here is the script I have

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>GayTubes05</title>
<script language="javascript">AC_FL_RunContent = 0;</script>
<script src="AC_RunActiveContent.js" language="javascript"></script>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#0099ff">
<!--url's used in the movie-->
<!--text used in the movie-->
<!-- saved from url=(0013)about:internet -->
<script language="javascript">
if (AC_FL_RunContent == 0) {
alert("This page requires AC_RunActiveContent.js.");
} else {
AC_FL_RunContent(
'codebase', 'http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0',
'width', '609',
'height', '500',
'src', 'GayTubes05',
'quality', 'high',
'pluginspage', 'http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer',
'align', 'middle',
'play', 'true',
'loop', 'true',
'scale', 'showall',
'wmode', 'window',
'devicefont', 'false',
'id', 'GayTubes05',
'bgcolor', '#0099ff',
'name', 'GayTubes05',
'menu', 'true',
'allowFullScreen', 'false',
'allowScriptAccess','sameDomain',
'movie', 'GayTubes05',
'salign', ''
); //end AC code
}
</script>
<noscript>
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,0,0" width="609" height="500" id="GayTubes05" align="middle">
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<param name="allowFullScreen" value="false" />
<param name="movie" value="GayTubes05.swf" /><param name="quality" value="high" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#0099ff" /> <embed src="GayTubes05.swf" quality="high" bgcolor="#0099ff" width="609" height="500" name="GayTubes05" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" />
</object>
</noscript>
</body>
</html>

Anyone see a way to make this work?
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:51 PM   #35
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I could see it but I didn't reply because I wanted to make fun of you saying you know better, even though you use out of the box coding and that the people who code by hand don't know their shit...

I saw it in FF, in Opera and IE... Opera and FF had a problem with the spacing in some images at the bottom, that worked fine in IE... but these problems were caused by it being a table which is code not compatible with the new UNIVERSAL standard that is XHTML...

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Old 07-09-2008, 06:57 PM   #36
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Working fine for me. You sure you dont have an old version cached?
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:31 PM   #37
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Thax guys, my PC did just update to the new FF maybe this problem was fixed by that update (how lucky is that?)

Ya I am used to the tables thing, it’s a common problem. But keep in mind that script causing that problem is from my cam sponcer. I can and will try to go in and fix each one of their coeds.

Yet is this not a bit ridicules for me to have to go around fixing all the scripts to work with a ‘browser’ that is supposedly so good? I don’t know but I do appreciate the help, does make me feel better knowing just about everyone can see it. Just hate to think of so many people not seeing the site the way I intended.

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I am going to try rebooting it again, but the videos are still not playing for me in FF. I am going to add FF to another PC and see if I have the same problem.

Are you guys sure you can see all these videos? http://barelylegalguys.com/member/gaytube26.htm
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FF is a very dumb browser. They believe webmasters should just stick to W3C, end of story. Whereas MSIE was designed to be able to figure out what imperfect code was trying to do.

It was so much easier on webmasters for those few years where IE was the only browser after they killed Netscape. Now some people use FF for the customization through very easy to use plugins. If IE8 offers that, then I don't see the attraction to FF anymore.
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I am going to try rebooting it again, but the videos are still not playing for me in FF. I am going to add FF to another PC and see if I have the same problem.

Are you guys sure you can see all these videos? http://barelylegalguys.com/member/gaytube26.htm
Works fine in FF 2.0.0.11
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:00 PM   #41
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OK thax, I did find the problem and it was ME The PC I have FF on is old and I have not updated the browser as I do not use FF. Anyway I am glad this problem was basically just on my end, I will fix these table errors then I should be all good

FF does open faster I think than IE, but I do wonder how many viwers really use it at all. What 8-12&#37;?
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Fist Fuck.... too funny.
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