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  • ManufacturingMan
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    • Nov 2003
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    #1

    Sales Low?

    Ok, I haven't been on here in a while but wanted to get back into it again. I've noticed my sales are about half of what they were even last year. Is anyone else experiencing this? We're actually working harder this year too.


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  • fallenmuffin
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    • Nov 2005
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    #2
    They were down but way up once again. May was amazing, June sucked, July is rocking hard.

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    • ProducerCashDave
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      • ManufacturingMan
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        #4
        Originally posted by ProducerCashDave
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        • notoldschool
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          • Aug 2007
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          #5
          Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
          Ok, I haven't been on here in a while but wanted to get back into it again. I've noticed my sales are about half of what they were even last year. Is anyone else experiencing this? We're actually working harder this year too.


          dont believe the hype. Im sure most are in the same boat as you.
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          • ManufacturingMan
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            • Nov 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by notoldschool
            dont believe the hype. Im sure most are in the same boat as you.
            Thanks. and go Ron Paul he had a good run and woke up a lot of people.
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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #7
              Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
              Ok, I haven't been on here in a while but wanted to get back into it again. I've noticed my sales are about half of what they were even last year. Is anyone else experiencing this? We're actually working harder this year too.


              Nope.

              Our sales have increased every year. Even more so over the past 4 years. Every year is higher for all sites.

              Honestly, I am surprised at our sales numbers currently for this, and last month. Normally we dip about 10-15% in the summer. But not so this year.
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              • O MARINA
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                • Mar 2003
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                #8
                hey, welcome to GFY
                what type of sites do you promote

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                • ManufacturingMan
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                  Nope.

                  Our sales have increased every year. Even more so over the past 4 years. Every year is higher for all sites.

                  Honestly, I am surprised at our sales numbers currently for this, and last month. Normally we dip about 10-15% in the summer. But not so this year.
                  Well this gives me hope, thanks.

                  Do you submit galleries each day? What program is good? I have tons of sets I could turn into nice galleries.
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                  • ManufacturingMan
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                    • Nov 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by O MARINA
                    hey, welcome to GFY
                    what type of sites do you promote

                    GFY won't allow me to post links until after I have 30 posts. i'll come back here soon and repost the info.
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                    • Barefootsies
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                      • Feb 2005
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
                      Well this gives me hope, thanks.

                      Do you submit galleries each day? What program is good? I have tons of sets I could turn into nice galleries.
                      Honestly, I only really promote my own content, and sites in my network. I do the occasional affiliate marketing. But I gave most of that up about two years back. I make more money promoting our own material.

                      Yes, still do submissions, board posts, and many other little things 5-7 days a week to keep the traffic flowing. But, we really try and do highly targeted niche traffic. Which is why our conversions as so good.

                      The days of throwing a bazillion hits at your shit hoping for a sale are over. That is why many are getting 1:10,000 ratios. We do more with less, and it works out nicely in the bank account.
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                      • ManufacturingMan
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                        #12
                        makes sense. Do you submit your own galleries using your own sites? What program would you recommend?
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                        • kowalsky
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                          • Oct 2003
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                          #13
                          At the moment July seems to be a great month for sales!
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                          • ManufacturingMan
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by O MARINA
                            hey, welcome to GFY
                            what type of sites do you promote
                            Here's my current sites, I'd like to build a site for each domain and cross link them all together, then start promoting galleries.


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                            • GrouchyAdmin
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                              • Apr 2006
                              • 12085

                              #15
                              Only six to twelve? You racist bastard.

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                              • Jdoughs
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #16
                                Please don't crosslink them all together. lol

                                Spend a little time and do some research on some SEO. If you could rank the domains for their own names (ie ass fucking for assfucking.net) you will do fairly well. But crosslinking the mess of them will ensure you get 0 SE love.

                                I know you never said you were after any SE traffic, but reading that you would cross link them makes me think that you beleive it will help them.
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                                • ManufacturingMan
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                                  • Nov 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                  Please don't crosslink them all together. lol

                                  Spend a little time and do some research on some SEO. If you could rank the domains for their own names (ie ass fucking for assfucking.net) you will do fairly well. But crosslinking the mess of them will ensure you get 0 SE love.

                                  I know you never said you were after any SE traffic, but reading that you would cross link them makes me think that you beleive it will help them.
                                  Well i assumed linking ASS FUCKING to assfucking.net on each site would be better than only 1 wouldn't it?
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                                  • Jdoughs
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                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 5794

                                    #18
                                    Yes and no, linking them all up from the same domains just shows the search engine bots that they are all from the same network, and basically gives 0 weight to them. They wont count them as strong links if they are easily identifiable as coming from the same network or nest. They will not give you credit for linking to yourself, basically.

                                    Much better off generating unique link patterns to each, then pushing the strong power to your "money sites". Which I would assume to be your main domain that sells your product/servive.
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                                    • ManufacturingMan
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                                      • Nov 2003
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                                      #19
                                      thanks for the info.
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                                      • ManufacturingMan
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 518

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                        Yes and no, linking them all up from the same domains just shows the search engine bots that they are all from the same network, and basically gives 0 weight to them. They wont count them as strong links if they are easily identifiable as coming from the same network or nest. They will not give you credit for linking to yourself, basically.

                                        Much better off generating unique link patterns to each, then pushing the strong power to your "money sites". Which I would assume to be your main domain that sells your product/servive.
                                        Hit me up about your SEO services.
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                                        • czarina
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                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 10752

                                          #21
                                          if each site is in a different server, it will be worth it, otherwise, the bots consider them all to be a network

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                                          • Twistys Tim
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                                            • Apr 2008
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                                            #22
                                            My ShapCash sales were off the chart again last month -- with a new record

                                            July is looking though is is going to shape up nicely as well.


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                                            • ManufacturingMan
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                                              • Nov 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Damn that sux, I have 350 domains and I certainly am not getting a diff server for each, lol!
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                                              • tehHinjew
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                                                #24
                                                you guys are forgetting its summer lol

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                                                • ManufacturingMan
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                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Twistys Tim
                                                  My ShapCash sales were off the chart again last month -- with a new record

                                                  July is looking though is is going to shape up nicely as well.
                                                  I'd enjoy some help building out some domains that you think will do well with your program.
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                                                  • Brad
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • Jdoughs
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by czarina
                                                      if each site is in a different server, it will be worth it, otherwise, the bots consider them all to be a network

                                                      What server they are on is only one small way to tell if its crosslinking, or from the same nest. The easiest way is backlinks and outbounds. When google looks at your whole network "the big picture" its to easy to point out that sites are from the same server, by the backlinks and by where those pages go. They see a complete snapshot of the web surrounding the domain in question.

                                                      Text, outbounds, images, page size, date, backlinks, even spelling mistakes, are all other ways they can easily catch you for creating your own little network.

                                                      Having 40 domains on differant c-classes, then linking them all up to one main one, is still going to get you caught. You could not produce enough seperate, quality backlinks to show them otherwise and chances are, would just turn into a wasted 40 domains.

                                                      Go for rankings that are rocks, make them last, why fuck around.
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                                                      • ManufacturingMan
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                                        What server they are on is only one small way to tell if its crosslinking, or from the same nest. The easiest way is backlinks and outbounds. When google looks at your whole network "the big picture" its to easy to point out that sites are from the same server, by the backlinks and by where those pages go. They see a complete snapshot of the web surrounding the domain in question.

                                                        Text, outbounds, images, page size, date, backlinks, even spelling mistakes, are all other ways they can easily catch you for creating your own little network.

                                                        Having 40 domains on differant c-classes, then linking them all up to one main one, is still going to get you caught. You could not produce enough seperate, quality backlinks to show them otherwise and chances are, would just turn into a wasted 40 domains.

                                                        Go for rankings that are rocks, make them last, why fuck around.
                                                        Exactly. Do you help put together a plan for hire?
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                                                        • d-null
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                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                          • 13724

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                                          What server they are on is only one small way to tell if its crosslinking, or from the same nest. The easiest way is backlinks and outbounds. When google looks at your whole network "the big picture" its to easy to point out that sites are from the same server, by the backlinks and by where those pages go. They see a complete snapshot of the web surrounding the domain in question.

                                                          Text, outbounds, images, page size, date, backlinks, even spelling mistakes, are all other ways they can easily catch you for creating your own little network.

                                                          Having 40 domains on differant c-classes, then linking them all up to one main one, is still going to get you caught. You could not produce enough seperate, quality backlinks to show them otherwise and chances are, would just turn into a wasted 40 domains.

                                                          Go for rankings that are rocks, make them last, why fuck around.
                                                          good post... getting penalized is a good way to ruin a domain, and a banned adult domain is really hard to get reincluded

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                                                          • Jdoughs
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
                                                            Exactly. Do you help put together a plan for hire?
                                                            My sig is kind of a parody, its not really meant to be a sales pitch, allthough I think that should be testimony to just how ironic the whole SEO for hire business is.

                                                            While I most likely would be interested in working something out, its my experience that most companies will not come even close to adequate compensation for time.

                                                            75% of all enquiries I answer turn into, "Push us and I will bump you to $XX.XX" And I'm not really on the hunt for new niches, atleast not in that way.

                                                            The other 25% get scared by numbers as small as $500 for a weeks worth of time. I'm not shy to tell ya I'm over that shit. I can pull that much dough while Pickeral fishin after supper tonite. Not trying to sound like a dick, but I'm also not ready to give up the gold for a days wage.

                                                            I will offer you some free advice, and I will also verify for you if someone is capable of producing for you, I honestly would NOT recommend paying someone to do it for you unless you are 100 per cent sure they are capable. But again, any of these people qualified will not work for cheap.
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                                                            • ManufacturingMan
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                                                              #31
                                                              awesome, I appreciate the help
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                                                              • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jetjet
                                                                good post... getting penalized is a good way to ruin a domain, and a banned adult domain is really hard to get reincluded
                                                                Is there anything you can do if you fear you have a penalized domain?
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                                                                • Jdoughs
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                                                                  • Mar 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
                                                                  Is there anything you can do if you fear you have a penalized domain?
                                                                  The most common penalties are pretty easy to identify. Begin by doing a site:www.domain.com search in google and verify its listing the pages in its index, if its a new site, you can also use this search to see what pages have been picked up.

                                                                  Another common, and usually missed penalty that is very frequent is the google 950, i say common, because often people who lose their sites, or cant ever find them in serps, and upon investigation, we will find them back at the 950th result.

                                                                  How to check? Go to google, search your keywords, and go all the way to the back of search results, then click the link to show all results including ones removed. After that, click to the end of results again, google will only show you 1000 results for any given term, max.

                                                                  If you are listed in the last page of these results, after requesting to show all results, then you have been given the "950 penalty", duely named for the placement it puts sites back to.

                                                                  This penalty is forgivable, and once corrected usually sites bounce back out to their expected serps sometimes as fast as a week later. I have personal experience with this type of return out of penalty on one site I own.
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                                                                  • d-null
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                                                                    • Apr 2007
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    if your site is parked for a long time, chances are it is penalized in some way, but not necessarily as bad as banned

                                                                    banned domains can be a real pain, especially in adult names, as they have to really prove their worthiness to be reincluded

                                                                    a banned domain might not show up in serps ever even if you build a great site on it and have links and traffic, they need to be manually unbanned by google and it isn't easy with adult names

                                                                    a banned domain will not show up in a site search on google (although that is not a guarantee that it is banned, just one symptom)

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                                                                    • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Thanks jdoughs and jetjet, I'm having my guys read over all this now
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                                                                      • B2BwithJoeD
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                                                                        • Apr 2004
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        For those whose sales are down, consider maximizing for Europe - can you bill by direct debit in Spain, United Kingdom, Germany, Austria and Netherlands?

                                                                        Are you geo-targeting and have your pre-join and join pages translated specifically for the major EU markets where you have the most traffic?
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                                                                        • raven1083
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                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Webbilling JoeD
                                                                            For those whose sales are down, consider maximizing for Europe - can you bill by direct debit in Spain, United Kingdom, Germany, Austria and Netherlands?

                                                                            Are you geo-targeting and have your pre-join and join pages translated specifically for the major EU markets where you have the most traffic?
                                                                            I use CCBILL so the join pages can be easily translated and also offers regional pricing and direct eu debit.
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                                                                            • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              bump for input and feedback
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                                                                              • Walrus
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                So putting misspellings on purpose in blog posts is bad then? I do it occasionally. But I also do not have a network of my own that I'm linking to.

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                                                                                • madawgz
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                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by madawgz
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                                                                                    • shadowsdrop
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                                                                                      #43
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                                                                                      • Jdoughs
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                                                                                        • Mar 2004
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Walrus
                                                                                        So putting misspellings on purpose in blog posts is bad then? I do it occasionally. But I also do not have a network of my own that I'm linking to.
                                                                                        Misspellings and using them isnt bad, I was leaning more towards continually incorrectly spelling the same keywords repeatedly across all of your sites, or using the same "4 or 5 words" in the same context (and wrongly so it sticks out) on every site.

                                                                                        There is many ways they can identify it as a network with purpose to rank sites.
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                                                                                        • Martin
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                                                                                          #45
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                                                                                          • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 518

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                                                                            Misspellings and using them isnt bad, I was leaning more towards continually incorrectly spelling the same keywords repeatedly across all of your sites, or using the same "4 or 5 words" in the same context (and wrongly so it sticks out) on every site.

                                                                                            There is many ways they can identify it as a network with purpose to rank sites.
                                                                                            If you have crosslinked and been penalized, can you remove the links and gain back SE respect? Or is it ruined?
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                                                                                            • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 518

                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              • Jdoughs
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                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 5794

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by ManufacturingMan
                                                                                                If you have crosslinked and been penalized, can you remove the links and gain back SE respect? Or is it ruined?
                                                                                                The short answer is that any penalty can be reversed, and that a banning is best to just walk away from. The long answer could only be answered after looking at the sites in question.

                                                                                                Generally, most people's sites are not penalized or banned, they (the engines) just don't give a shit about them.
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                                                                                                • ManufacturingMan
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                                                                                  The short answer is that any penalty can be reversed, and that a banning is best to just walk away from. The long answer could only be answered after looking at the sites in question.

                                                                                                  Generally, most people's sites are not penalized or banned, they (the engines) just don't give a shit about them.
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                                                                                                  • notime
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 8025

                                                                                                    #50
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