News from Choker - GoFuckYourself.com

HQ · 10-16-2002, 09:23 AM

Here's some important news from Choker for all of you who use his galleries (I do):

http://chickenboard.com/read.php?f=6&i=61&t=61

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If you can't link to http://galleryspots.com to help this program, and I don't mean bury the link, I mean ACTIVELY send business to me, I will have no choice but to either lower your payback ratio or have you stop sending to the galleries.

Let's please help Choker out. His program kicks ass and he kicks ass. I am still in the middle of an important migration and have not been able to update my site (or start trades) for the past few weeks due to lots and lots of bugs... Within the next couple of days I will be linking all my TGPs to http://galleryspots.com/

Catalinas · 10-16-2002, 09:54 AM

We have some sites that send traffic to his galleries.. it confuses me.. and now I'm more confused! Lol. I guess I will just buy some gallery spots..... how's that?

.:Frog:. · 10-16-2002, 10:07 AM

Yup I saw the msg, and added his link in my signature.
His traffic is great, if you need traffic he would be the first person I recommend.

HQ · 10-16-2002, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Catalinas
We have some sites that send traffic to his galleries.. it confuses me.. and now I'm more confused! Lol. I guess I will just buy some gallery spots..... how's that?

He just wants more people using http://galleryspots.com/ so to help him out, put a link on your webmasters page to http://galleryspots.com/ for all your gallery designers that hit your webmaster page.

JamesK · 10-16-2002, 01:17 PM

dont worry. ill support his program

HQ · 10-16-2002, 01:19 PM

It's an incredible program and I think it is in all our best interest to support him. He is not asking for very much. If gallery submitters come to your site, but you have no use for them (because you are using all of Choker's galleries) then why not send them to http://galleryspots.com/ ? It only makes sense.

Pipecrew · 10-16-2002, 01:43 PM

Honestly I'd actually buy some gallery spots and all, but I cant follow his 30 rules..... some of them work against the system. like embedding movie files in Html? just doesnt work

Backov · 10-16-2002, 01:46 PM

We also wanted to buy gallery spots from him but he turned us down because our exclusive content doesn't have (or need, but apparently that's not important) USC 2257 docs.

Cheers,
Backov

Choker · 10-16-2002, 05:59 PM

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We also wanted to buy gallery spots from him but he turned us down because our exclusive content doesn't have (or need, but apparently that's not important) USC 2257 docs.

I have no idea about this, I do turn down galleries with models that may not be over 18 yrs old.

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Honestly I'd actually buy some gallery spots and all, but I cant follow his 30 rules..... some of them work against the system. like embedding movie files in Html? just doesnt work

Pipecrew, of course it makes sense man. The surfer is exposed to ads while he is watching the movie, this is the time he is more inclined to click to a sponsor. And why give the surfer more than one movie per gallery anyway? As far as the endless rules, if you were one of the 200 plus tgps sending to these galleries, you would understand and appreciate these rules. These TGPs do not have to worry about the galleries they are sending traffic to.

Pipecrew · 10-16-2002, 06:13 PM

iam not trying to argue, but look at most movie sites, they dont allow embedded movies in html.... the movie I'd wanna put in is a 3.5 mb file...... no way someone on a modem is going to be sitting looking at a white page for 5 minutes hoping it loads........ if they can download it themselves then its all good

BVF · 10-16-2002, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
iam not trying to argue, but look at most movie sites, they dont allow embedded movies in html.... the movie I'd wanna put in is a 3.5 mb file...... no way someone on a modem is going to be sitting looking at a white page for 5 minutes hoping it loads........ if they can download it themselves then its all good

jesus fucking christ...will y'all stop crying??? who gives a fuck about what "most" movie sites do. What you should be worried about is making YOU money. That's what makes his program unique from all the other ones.

I have a spot with him and I'm kicking ass with it. I'll be buying another spot next month..

People cry and cry about how TGP's don't want you to make any money by asking for "clean" galleries and limiting links and not allowing rules that can only help the webmaster. Somebody like choker comes along with some rules that are WEBMASTER FRIENDLY and there are people still complaining about the rules.

Good Gawd. you can't please everybody. If you want to keep kissing the asses of the other TGP and MGP owners, go ahead. I have decided to skip that step, pay choker, and sit back and collect my cash. Let choker sit in front of this computer all day figuring out how to get traffic. I'd rather pay him to get my traffic while I'm at the gym working out.

Socks · 10-16-2002, 08:53 PM

Dude yer way out of line.. Looks to me like they're having a constructive conversation there..

Juge · 10-17-2002, 04:32 AM

There's nothing to be confused about. If you're sending traffic to his auto-changing galleries to get traffic back, then help the guy out by giving him a link on your gallery submit page so he'll have more galleries and traffic to give back out. The program is good, but it has more of a chance to survive if we help out a little. Asking for a link is not too much to ask.

It's a great program. Try it, and you'll see.

Re: the movies in html, I think it's a good idea. You don't always have to follow what everyone else does. And of course you wouldn't put a 3.5 MB movie in that style format.

HQ · 10-17-2002, 06:15 AM

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Originally posted by Choker
Pipecrew, of course it makes sense man. The surfer is exposed to ads while he is watching the movie, this is the time he is more inclined to click to a sponsor. And why give the surfer more than one movie per gallery anyway? As far as the endless rules, if you were one of the 200 plus tgps sending to these galleries, you would understand and appreciate these rules. These TGPs do not have to worry about the galleries they are sending traffic to.

I have to completely agree with this. I know that if I hit a movie gallery, my DAP downs the galleries and I do not see any ads at all. Both the gallery embedded in the page and the clean galleries. I know I like the fact that my surfers can visit tons of super clean galleries.

Pipecrew · 10-17-2002, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by BVF

jesus fucking christ...will y'all stop crying??? who gives a fuck about what "most" movie sites do. What you should be worried about is making YOU money. That's what makes his program unique from all the other ones.

I have a spot with him and I'm kicking ass with it. I'll be buying another spot next month..

People cry and cry about how TGP's don't want you to make any money by asking for "clean" galleries and limiting links and not allowing rules that can only help the webmaster. Somebody like choker comes along with some rules that are WEBMASTER FRIENDLY and there are people still complaining about the rules.

Good Gawd. you can't please everybody. If you want to keep kissing the asses of the other TGP and MGP owners, go ahead. I have decided to skip that step, pay choker, and sit back and collect my cash. Let choker sit in front of this computer all day figuring out how to get traffic. I'd rather pay him to get my traffic while I'm at the gym working out.

Take this gallery for example from Chokers Movie List

http://www.sexcastingvideo.net/katarina.html

waited for 1.5 minutes and it didnt even load? Do I click on the ads? No I get pissed and go to a movie site where I can actually watch the status of my download....... So many people collect porn its not even funny, some of my visitors tell me they have gigs and gigs of the movies I've shared over the time, they are walking archives...

Anyways its important to go with the swing of things when I say "most movie sites do" because well, They fucking do!... If you look in my queqe that is currently 5000 galleries waiting, I am willing to bet you whatever dollar amount you want that I probably have less then 10 html embedded galleries.. and the funny part...... I dont even accept them, I dont even know of a site that does! so go whine about your picture galleries and try and convince someone else you have a clue about what you are talking about

Pipecrew · 10-17-2002, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Juge

Re: the movies in html, I think it's a good idea. You don't always have to follow what everyone else does. And of course you wouldn't put a 3.5 MB movie in that style format.

what do people want? a 600k ,15 second clip embedded in Html or an actual movie the can download thats atleast 1 min and can play for eternity?

SpeakEasy · 10-17-2002, 07:50 AM

Nevermind...

BVF · 10-17-2002, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

Take this gallery for example from Chokers Movie List

http://www.sexcastingvideo.net/katarina.html

waited for 1.5 minutes and it didnt even load? Do I click on the ads? No I get pissed and go to a movie site where I can actually watch the status of my download....... So many people collect porn its not even funny, some of my visitors tell me they have gigs and gigs of the movies I've shared over the time, they are walking archives...

Anyways its important to go with the swing of things when I say "most movie sites do" because well, They fucking do!... If you look in my queqe that is currently 5000 galleries waiting, I am willing to bet you whatever dollar amount you want that I probably have less then 10 html embedded galleries.. and the funny part...... I dont even accept them, I dont even know of a site that does! so go whine about your picture galleries and try and convince someone else you have a clue about what you are talking about

HQ · 10-17-2002, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
Take this gallery for example from Chokers Movie List

http://www.sexcastingvideo.net/katarina.html

waited for 1.5 minutes and it didnt even load? [cut]

That movie loaded in about 2 seconds and started playing for me.

Pipecrew · 10-17-2002, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by BVF

maybee you should actually read that, because if you did, maybee your galleries would get accepted at most tgps/mgps and you wouldnt have to buy traffic....... I actually wanted to try this choker thing out but he wont accept normal movie galleries

Juge · 10-17-2002, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
Take this gallery for example from Chokers Movie List

http://www.sexcastingvideo.net/katarina.html

waited for 1.5 minutes and it didnt even load?

It started playing about 0.1 seconds after I clicked the link. Immediately.

Juge · 10-17-2002, 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
what do people want? a 600k ,15 second clip embedded in Html or an actual movie the can download thats atleast 1 min and can play for eternity?

It depends. It's not always what people want. Some things just make more money. You don't always have to follow everyone else's footsteps, is all I am trying to say. Just because he is not following footsteps, it does not imply that the galleries suck. That's all my point was.

BVF · 10-17-2002, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

maybee you should actually read that, because if you did, maybee your galleries would get accepted at most tgps/mgps and you wouldnt have to buy traffic....... I actually wanted to try this choker thing out but he wont accept normal movie galleries

once again

Of course I still submit galleries to other TGP's... I'm not going to give up some free traffic....I just don't kiss anybody's ass to get listed. That's all.

Isn't a sponsorship program "buying" traffic? Isn't the pay-per-click thing "bought" traffic. You think the people who are buying the top spots on the HUN are so lame that they have to waste HUNDREDS of dollars to get listed? If a gallery isn't good enough to get listed anywhere for free, how the fuck can they afford to waste money with the Hun and with the other TGP's brokering through Cybercat?

Fool please......

People who can convert TGP traffic such as myself can afford to buy traffic because I ALWAYS make my money back, plus some. And since I front the money on my credit card and pay it back by the end of the month, it's actually FREE traffic.

That's why TGP owners make so much money from the more successful gallery makers. We believe in our product, therefore we buy traffic and make a profit. The lesser ones complain and figure out ways to get accepted for free at the other TGP's.

You gotta spend money to make money....And you gotta look at the BIG PICTURE...If you don't want to use the program because he doesn't accept "normal" galleries, suit yourself. If you're not willing to think "out of the box" and think to yourself that maybe a different gallery format could make you some more money, but you're too scared to put up some cash to prove your point, then I feel sorry for you because you're too scared to take a risk. I'd hate to go through my life scared to take a risk as simple as putting a $100 on a gallery and seeing what happens. I was scared to waste money too. but after I made my money back quickly, I knew to put more money down.

I plan on purchasing between 800-1million hits a month by December. 400k will be purchased next month....That's a lot of money to spend a month but I'm confident enough in my skills to know that my sites are good enough to convert that much traffic.

But do what you do Pipecrew. It matters not to me

HQ · 10-17-2002, 08:47 AM

It does not matter if he does not accept your galleries. This says nothing about the program's quality. The fact that you are not compatible with it might actually point towards the notion that your galleries are not as good (to the surfer).

I think my surfers love Choker's galleries. I think embedded galleries are a definitely plus to the surfer. The movies themselves are too small to download and archive anyway. We do not want them to do this.

Choker · 10-17-2002, 09:30 AM

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Take this gallery for example from Chokers Movie List
http://www.sexcastingvideo.net/katarina.html
waited for 1.5 minutes and it didnt even load?

Pipecrew where do you see this gallery in my list at? This is not a gallery in the program. Every single gallery in the program has my dancing chicken at the bottom of it.

I think what Pipecrew is trying to say is that he just disagrees with the format of movie galleries I choose to use and sell traffic too. I don't think he is knocking the actual program. I can say that these single movie galleries convert good for me and surfers do indeed love them, even though it is harder for them to download. This is the goal here anyway, to give them less free porn while giving them good reason to pull out the credit cards. My movie galleries average over 12% CTR. And I average over 20 signups a day from them. Some days I even get over 40 signups from them. Can regular movie galleries do this?

CDSmith · 10-17-2002, 09:47 AM

People, what choker is doing is he's single-handedly re-writing the way we use content to advertise, and I for one applaud his efforts and welcome his 300 rules. How many of us have cried and whined over the past few years that there was "TOO MUCH FREE PORN" being offered on the net? I'll tell you how many of us.... nearly ALL of us. And giving away a gallery of 3 meg movies is insane, period. The big movie posts can go fuck themselves, their rules are insane asking for such huge movies.

Choker is on the right track, and he's actually managing to get some pretty big tgp's to adopt and accept this method of giving away less free porn per page. I like it. And it's a good deal for the tgp owner who no longer has to wade through 900 cheating fuckhead galleries to get to the 80 he needs for his daily update. A few dozen trusted regular submitters and choker's galleries is a good way to go.

Now go back to sleep

Rictor · 10-17-2002, 01:13 PM

I think Choker's movie rules are great...make the freeloaders pay for the full-length stuff.

Pipecrew · 10-17-2002, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by BVF

I plan on purchasing between 800-1million hits a month by December. 400k will be purchased next month....That's a lot of money to spend a month but I'm confident enough in my skills to know that my sites are good enough to convert that much traffic.

Congratulations...........

we are arguing just to argue...... not worth my time, I gotta get back inside my box

GFED · 10-17-2002, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
People, what choker is doing is he's single-handedly re-writing the way we use content to advertise, and I for one applaud his efforts and welcome his 300 rules.

Follow the dancing chicken!

HQ · 10-17-2002, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
I think what Pipecrew is trying to say is that he just disagrees with the format of movie galleries I choose to use and sell traffic too. I don't think he is knocking the actual program.

I agree.

HQ · 10-20-2002, 12:37 PM

Ok my new host is up and running so I have finally updated my sites. Now www.hqdailynude.com and www.freegallery.biz are now linking to www.galleryspots.com for all their gallery submissions. Hope this helps.

Choker, I think you should make this a _rule_ for anyone using your program.

boldy · 10-20-2002, 03:47 PM

http://www.babesfromholland.com is also linking to galleryspots.com

B.

HQ · 10-21-2002, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by boldy
http://www.babesfromholland.com is also linking to galleryspots.com

Excellent. Glad to see some support. I want this program to stay up and running. I still feel that this should be a rule for the program.

Juge · 10-21-2002, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by HQ
Excellent. Glad to see some support. I want this program to stay up and running. I still feel that this should be a rule for the program.

It's been evident that most people did not know about Choker's request for links to galleryspots.com to help the program survive, so I believe he should mass-msg everyone thru his system and require it as a rule. Giving a link to the program is not too much to ask.

10-16-2002, 10:07 AM	#3
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	Yup I saw the msg, and added his link in my signature. His traffic is great, if you need traffic he would be the first person I recommend. __________________ <a href="http://www.pornopayouts.com/?rid=pp3076">PornoPayouts</a> Tons of Hosted Galleries.

10-16-2002, 01:17 PM	#5
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	dont worry. ill support his program __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

10-16-2002, 01:46 PM	#8
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	We also wanted to buy gallery spots from him but he turned us down because our exclusive content doesn't have (or need, but apparently that's not important) USC 2257 docs. Cheers, Backov __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

10-17-2002, 07:50 AM	#17
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	Nevermind... Last edited by SpeakEasy; 10-17-2002 at 07:52 AM..

10-17-2002, 09:47 AM	#26
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	People, what choker is doing is he's single-handedly re-writing the way we use content to advertise, and I for one applaud his efforts and welcome his 300 rules. How many of us have cried and whined over the past few years that there was "TOO MUCH FREE PORN" being offered on the net? I'll tell you how many of us.... nearly ALL of us. And giving away a gallery of 3 meg movies is insane, period. The big movie posts can go fuck themselves, their rules are insane asking for such huge movies. Choker is on the right track, and he's actually managing to get some pretty big tgp's to adopt and accept this method of giving away less free porn per page. I like it. And it's a good deal for the tgp owner who no longer has to wade through 900 cheating fuckhead galleries to get to the 80 he needs for his daily update. A few dozen trusted regular submitters and choker's galleries is a good way to go. Now go back to sleep __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

10-16-2002, 09:54 AM	#2
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	We have some sites that send traffic to his galleries.. it confuses me.. and now I'm more confused! Lol. I guess I will just buy some gallery spots..... how's that?

10-16-2002, 01:19 PM	#6
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	It's an incredible program and I think it is in all our best interest to support him. He is not asking for very much. If gallery submitters come to your site, but you have no use for them (because you are using all of Choker's galleries) then why not send them to http://galleryspots.com/ ? It only makes sense.

10-16-2002, 01:43 PM	#7
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Honestly I'd actually buy some gallery spots and all, but I cant follow his 30 rules..... some of them work against the system. like embedding movie files in Html? just doesnt work

10-16-2002, 06:13 PM	#10
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	iam not trying to argue, but look at most movie sites, they dont allow embedded movies in html.... the movie I'd wanna put in is a 3.5 mb file...... no way someone on a modem is going to be sitting looking at a white page for 5 minutes hoping it loads........ if they can download it themselves then its all good

10-16-2002, 08:53 PM	#12
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Dude yer way out of line.. Looks to me like they're having a constructive conversation there..

10-17-2002, 04:32 AM	#13
Juge Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,917	There's nothing to be confused about. If you're sending traffic to his auto-changing galleries to get traffic back, then help the guy out by giving him a link on your gallery submit page so he'll have more galleries and traffic to give back out. The program is good, but it has more of a chance to survive if we help out a little. Asking for a link is not too much to ask. It's a great program. Try it, and you'll see. Re: the movies in html, I think it's a good idea. You don't always have to follow what everyone else does. And of course you wouldn't put a 3.5 MB movie in that style format.

10-17-2002, 08:47 AM	#24
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	It does not matter if he does not accept your galleries. This says nothing about the program's quality. The fact that you are not compatible with it might actually point towards the notion that your galleries are not as good (to the surfer). I think my surfers love Choker's galleries. I think embedded galleries are a definitely plus to the surfer. The movies themselves are too small to download and archive anyway. We do not want them to do this.

10-17-2002, 01:13 PM	#27
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	I think Choker's movie rules are great...make the freeloaders pay for the full-length stuff.

10-20-2002, 12:37 PM	#31
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Ok my new host is up and running so I have finally updated my sites. Now www.hqdailynude.com and www.freegallery.biz are now linking to www.galleryspots.com for all their gallery submissions. Hope this helps. Choker, I think you should make this a _rule_ for anyone using your program.

10-20-2002, 03:47 PM	#32
boldy Macdaddy coder Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: MacDaddy pimp coder Posts: 2,806	http://www.babesfromholland.com is also linking to galleryspots.com B. __________________ MacDaddy Coder.