little sensitive sweetie? you know the Muslims don't accept you because you're gay but you are alright here.

no im a straight and just interested in girls, but if You're gay and a fan of the Turk dick then only open your mouth and at least you can't generate noise pollution wile im shooting my loads inside of your fag mouth
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Those islamic terrorist are realy strange people.For example,do you know christian,muslim and jew God is same person?Yet again each of them want their religion dominating world,and it is all same,just different intrepretation

Move to the United States my gay Turkish brother, we will accept you no matter what your orientation is... and you can keep your Muslim religion too :)

Amen


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LOL, I wonder how many are there...

as i told You im not a fag as You're, Gayness Poppuler in Your Culture, Shame in my culture, however Your low İQ can not take it so stop talking shit, move Your fat ass and get busy.

if You have some clue to talk about just let me know, but if You have no fuckin clue about what are You talkin about just stfu and go figure.

Sig spot reserved. Thank you.

Thats fucken awesome:thumbsup

Exactly my point, you can be Muslim and gay in this country :)

Time to come out of the closet and come to the land of the free.

ever heard of the Roman empire? existed way before Islam...

Muslims do not work in porn.
If one of you consider's yourself a Muslim and work in porn you might want to consider changing your god. Because you certainly are not a fucking Muslim by any stretch of imagination.

Not to mention you pose a bigger murder risk to yourself from your uhh "Good Muslim Brothers".

Na thanks im very happy being as a straight guy

Do Catholics and Protestants work in porn? If one of you considers yourself a Catholic or a Protestant and work in porn you might want to consider changing your god to Voodoo or something like that :2 cents:

For me...
Well in my society I can elect to have no God and not be executed for it:):1orglaugh

Religion is for weak people that need a lulliby and alliby to commit murder. I have no wish to kill for old guys whom thought of some reason to kill in the name of "God". LOL!

If I want to fuck some chick I just do it, it aint some spiritual thing, I want to eat some pork? No problem... I want to put my own kind of salt on food, no problem.

I don't give a mother fuck about Mecca or the god damned Vatican, nor do I care for the so called "Imams" or "Priests". Religeon has no place in leading men or women in my opinion yet these farces of holier than thow fuckheads keep trying.

If it were upto me I would feed them all to lions and put it all on Youtube for the cash gain. I can say shit like that because I am truly a free man.

are You presenting all gfy? wow You're very cool!,

so wile You saying im earning American dollars so i shouldn't be gotten serious since i get paid by euros/dollars?

i really apriciated Your being genious as this

there are tons of non American companies getting paid buy Dollars, so they shouldn't be getting all serious and Your pothetic post should be taken serious?

btw. i wasn't knowing that Gfy is an American board with full of World Wild members, Thanks for inlightening me
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The same thing applies to my society as well. But what's about Catholics and Protestants so far? Can they work in porn? :winkwink:

for not making happy to some english polices here, i would correct the word "World wild" as World Wide, but time has expired, sorry

Does not matter if a religeon say's what to do or not, the Law of the land is what is important. But thats why Americans and Europeans are different than Islamic cultures.

Westerners and Europeans try and keep the religious retards in the closet though they often attempt there shit to instigate some sort of god's will on the population at large.

Law of the land is what hold's dominion and if the law of the land happens to be one of religious edict, well you put your own ass on the line.

I for one have no idea why Islam grips such a wonderful people so firmly though...

I think Middle Eastern decendants are great people if they drop the whole Islam shit. Islam tend's to just make them weird, less opinionated, less educated and as a whole behave in ways that are not really human at all.

see the post above, i said why couldn't correct my mistake, but im not insulting You, if You're seing the title, a person calling here terrorists with naming a religion and i wasonly telling my opinionsabout topic, if You read them all

and actually i didn't understand why You pissed off, did i ever insult Americans in this topic? i just gave him back for what he did, thats all.

According to the things I see on the news, it looks like religion have a chance to gain over in the USA someday :2 cents:

That's not correct actually. Before the crusaders' invasion the Muslim world was VERY educated and far more advanced than all barbarian Western cultures together. I mean there is a single religion but two different cultures - before and after the crusades. So perhaps it's not about Islam but about something different...

Uhmm you might want to think about the Crusades some.

Muslims love talking about the Crusades… and Christians love apologizing for them. To hear both parties tell the story, one would believe that Muslims were just peacefully minding their own business in lands that were legitimately Muslim, when Christian armies decided to wage holy war and "kill millions.”

The Truth:

Every part of this myth is a lie. By the rules that Muslims claim for themselves, the Crusades were perfectly justified, and the excesses (though beneath Christian standards) pale in comparison with the historical treatment of conquered populations at the hands of Muslims.

Here are some quick facts…

The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after Rome itself was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.

Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad’s death. As early as 652, Muhammad’s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death. In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and raping an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity.

In theory, the Crusades were provoked by the harassment of Christian pilgrims from Europe to the Holy Land, in which many were kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam or even killed. (Compare this to Islam’s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad’s time).

The Crusaders only invaded lands that were Christian. They never attacked Saudi Arabia or sacked Mecca as the Muslims had done (and continued doing) to Italy and Constantinople.

The period of Crusader “occupation” (of its own former land) was stretched over less than two centuries. The Muslim occupation is in its 1,372nd year.

The period of Crusader “aggression” compresses to about 20 years of actual military campaign, much of which was spent on organization and travel. (They were from 1098-1099, 1146-1148, 1188-1192, 1201-1204, 1218-1221, 1228-1229, and 1248-1250). By comparison, the Muslim Jihad against the island of Sicily alone lasted 75 grinding years.

Unlike Jihad, the Crusades were never justified on the basis of New Testament teachings. This is why they are an anomaly, the brief interruption of fourteen centuries of relentless Jihad against Christianity that began long before the Crusades and continued well after they were over.

The greatest crime of the Crusaders was the sacking of Jerusalem, in which 30,000 people were said to have been massacred. This number is dwarfed by the number of Jihad victims, from India to Constantinople and Narbonne, but Muslims have never apologized for their crimes and never will.

What is called 'sin and excess' by other religions, is what Islam refers to as the will of Allah.

In short the Crusades were warranted while the number of death's of suffered to Christian/Roman's was far more vast than what the Islamics suffered. If you ask me the Islamic's got off easy for what they did.

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In one word: nope! The Muslim civilization was VERY VERY advanced. They invented almost everything that we are using today. Astronomy, medicine, mathematics (you are using Arab digits, isn't it?), mechanics etc. It was in a same time when Western scientists were burned alive by a mad god-loving inquisition. That's not a myth, that's a story of our planet.

Further reading. I know its long but here it is...

The Myth:

Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, ?paving the way? for modern advances in technology and medicine. On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its ?Dark Ages? and the Muslim world was conquering new populations and culture.

The Truth:

Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was more advanced during this period than the ?Christian? world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion). In fact, the religion actively discourages knowledge outside of itself, which is why the greatest Muslim scholars throughout history tend to be students of religion rather than science.

First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated for them by Christians and Jews. To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge. (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by the Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period).

Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually ?borrowed? from other cultures conquered by the Muslims. The algebraic concept of ?zero?, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam, but it was, in fact, created by the Hindus and merely introduced to the West by Muslims - along with the products of other cultures that were found to be useful to their new rulers.

In fact, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of ?Muslim science? until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude). The Muslim concentration within a population is directly proportional to the decline of scientific achievement. It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 600 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize.

Third, even the great Muslim scientists and icons were often considered heretics in their time, sometimes for good reason. One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Iranian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. His impressive works are often held up today as ?proof? of Muslim accomplishment. But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs ? which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam.

Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic. There is the invention of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir, but not much else that survives in modern technology that is of any practical significance. Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation.

As an example of this, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee, since the beans were discovered in Africa (at the time, an important source for Islamic slave trading) and first processed in the Middle East. While this is true, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America. It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now (although, to be fair, coffee probably expedited subsequent discoveries).

In fact, the litany of ?Muslim? achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement. Scientific, medical and technological accomplishments are not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a pissing contest with the Christian world. Today?s Islamic innovators are known merely for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder.

To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator. The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam. Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether.

What terrorists? That shits like the bogeyman.

here at my university everyday im seeing American people and nobody complaining from being here or non of us have problems with them.

i se them even wile they playing baseball on the grass and nobody messes them even being nice friend, i even met an American professor here last week and She is greeting me when ever she sees and we're talking sometimes and last year one of my professors was an American too.

what my point is, some keyboard warriors are here only knowing how to talk shit, but don't even try to face and learn what's the reality

and i bet half of them at least didn't even been to middle east ever.

Don't know about others but I'm used to be in Turkey almost every summer. As a tourist of course and I like it :)

See thats the beauty of injustice isnt it? Islamics can come to my country and Europe, shit they can even come to our schools while if I were to go to the Middle East I would need heavy security and risk possible death.

It certainly must be nice that Western Culture is so kind as to send educators to Islamic cultures and risk them being put to death. Western Culture's at least from my perspective have always put the hand out to help people throughout the world while attempting to slow tyranny.

You would not even be sitting infront of that computer right now with access to this website without the help of Western Influence and education.

Part of the problem with Western Culture is that we went so far to help people in need that we trained them to fight war's and when we stopped helping them America became the terrible enemy...

When America stopped helping them they decreed Islamic rule, got into the drug business and began conducting Holy War's on innocent populations.

So we are the assholes for cutting them down?

Roman Built Ruins in what is now Islamic lands.

Them damn Romans ran the place to the ground...
How dare they make Archictural Land marks of historical significance...

Where did i stereotype Americans, im just telling i have no problem with people, unless they're assholes, what's wrong with my point?

about You did or didn't like Antalya, thats nor my problem or neather İslam's problem,

You know how they say; Colours and joys are not discussable, if You say that differant in English just let me know, maybe You can teach something to a Muslim and be a bro.

as a result of, what're the reason of main problems is Politics and pragmas, Other then that i don't think ordinary people have problems with others.
so i go back to work, if any of You guys willing to come to İstanbul, i would love to host You, maybe we can have some drink and break some mis understandings together.

Peace.
C.A

You should read my post better, as i said, we're getting nice friendship with our western guests here, i kindly advise You to also come and see what's the reality, we're cursing terrorists as how you do, but they're getting support from somewhere,Countries using terrorists as secret weapons against an other countries so what can i do for that?

as a note: i didn't understand the American help thing, How Do You helping to middle east,Maybe starting war for resources?

but anyway as i said come close and see urself what's the reality.

Regards.
C.A

Here is what it comes down to.

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You should all listen to AtlantisCash; Islam is a religion of peace. There is no theme within Islam that calls for the killing of unbelievers that is backed up by the hadith and the koran. There is nothing about Islamic supremacists that you should worry about because there is no such thing as an Islamic supremacist; only those who misunderstand.
These people are just misunderstood.

"'Most Muslims would be absolutely horrified, as I am, that Shehzad Tanweer is being remembered by some people as a martyr."


Not true.

You think,

Muslims who see the 7/7 bombing attacks in London as justified on balance: 6 percent.

· Who feel sympathy for the “feelings and motives” of those who carried out the 7/7 attacks: 24 percent.

Understand “why some people behave in that way”: 56 percent.

These numbers are just for those who live in the UK

long live Islam!

the destruction of the oldest biggest buddhist statues was just sad by muslim terrorists and WAS NOT INSTIGATED

so dont blame it on the west!!!!!

Those statues were older than Islam itself.