What do u think of euthanasia for people?? - GoFuckYourself.com

phogirl69 · 10-20-2002, 02:59 PM

I was reading on the net that Euthanasia is legalized in the Netherlands. Euthanasia is the practice were terminally ill patients are "put to sleep" with the assistance of a physician.

Some of the articles I read also stated that in certain cases though, euthanasia was administered for non life-threatening
cases such as depression, arthritis, diabetes, infants born with deformities/handicaps. In a few cases, euthanasia was even administered without the patients consent! It seems to me too much to euthanize someone for depression, when they can be easily medicated with drugs or treated with therapy...

Anyways, I think this is pretty scary. I can see the advantage if someone is terminally ill and suffering from severe pain, but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised. What does everyone else think??

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mjrools23 · 10-20-2002, 03:08 PM

if someone wants to die then let them...how can u tell somebody who wants to die that they dont have the right to die? shit..i dont care if u want to die cause ur penis is short...if u wana die, then go ahead!

wsjb78 · 10-20-2002, 04:17 PM

If you have a right to live and are responsible for your own life why shouldn't one have to right to say when one doens't want to live anymore?

Not having the option to decide when you don't wanna live anymore just makes you a puppet in the hand of others.

I for myself want to be in control of my life.

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Libertine · 10-20-2002, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
I was reading on the net that Euthanasia is legalized in the Netherlands. Euthanasia is the practice were terminally ill patients are "put to sleep" with the assistance of a physician.

Some of the articles I read also stated that in certain cases though, euthanasia was administered for non life-threatening
cases such as depression, arthritis, diabetes, infants born with deformities/handicaps. In a few cases, euthanasia was even administered without the patients consent! It seems to me too much to euthanize someone for depression, when they can be easily medicated with drugs or treated with therapy...

Anyways, I think this is pretty scary. I can see the advantage if someone is terminally ill and suffering from severe pain, but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised. What does everyone else think??

Apparently you have stumbled onto an anti-euthanasia site, that twists the facts severely. First of all, the thing about euthanasia on infants born with handicaps or deformities is not more the case here than it is in the US. In some extreme cases it is done, but only when the child will die without lots nof medical attention and even then has no chances of a fulfilling life. Note that in this definition, a paralysed kid can still lead a fulfilling life. It actually refers to kids who will die within a few years from birth, will have to get surgery for dozens of times to stay alive that long, and will only know excruciating pain for the few years that they are kept alive. The same is done in the US and just about any other country, if the parents decide not to put their child through such torture.
Now, the stuff about non-consentual euthanasia is way different from what it seems. Like in all countries, when a patient is braindead or has been in a coma for very lontg the 'plug' can be pulled. However, non-consentual euthanasia is most certainly not administered to those who still have consciousness or have any chances for survival. Again, this in no way differs from what is done in other countries.
Euthanasia is legal in the Netherlands though. However, the process towards it is very long and requires approval from several doctors. Depression alone is not enough reason to allow someone to have euthanasia administered to him. Only if this person has been treated for several years, and the person himself wants euthanasia, and the doctors approve this (if they as well believe further treatment will not have any success), euthanasia can be administered. And even this has sparked a lot of debate and might be changed in the near future.
The most common reason for euthanasia, though, is if a person has a fatal disease with no chances of recovery and a lot of suffering ahead, and wants to avoid that suffering and die in a peaceful and painless way, instead of after months of torturing pain.

And, just for the record, ofcourse this IS supervised.

auscguy · 10-20-2002, 04:33 PM

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Danny_C · 10-20-2002, 07:49 PM

Well, first, I want to say that if the case was whether anybody has the right to live or die, I would be on the side of the Christian right (though for entirely different reasons). I don't believe anybody should have the right to take his or her own life at any time. If a person is depressed and wants to die, there could be treatment to help... and the fact is, most people have others who depend on them in one way or another - children, spouses, parents, etc. And who are the most depressed people of our society? Women who have just had children. A woman (or man) should not have the right to bear children and then leave them to fend for themselves. So to say, "Everybody has a right to die if they want" is ridiculous.

But that's not the issue, and I don't think it would ever come to that. The issue is terminally ill people who are in severe pain and discomfort, have very little to no chance of recovery, and don't want to drag out their misery for no reason. Yet Christians have such a grip on our government and media that they've convinced everyone that "God" wants us to suffer through to the end - because taking our own lives is a sin! Well, I say bullshit to that. If I'm laying in a bed consuming resources that could go to people who have a chance of recovering; I have no control over my bowel movements; I'm fed through a tube; I can't contribute anything to my family or society; I'm in severe pain.... well, fuck "God's will"... I want to do the right thing and end the torment of everyone involved.

Ted · 10-20-2002, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C

But that's not the issue, and I don't think it would ever come to that. The issue is terminally ill people who are in severe pain and discomfort, have very little to no chance of recovery, and don't want to drag out their misery for no reason. Yet Christians have such a grip on our government and media that they've convinced everyone that "God" wants us to suffer through to the end - because taking our own lives is a sin! Well, I say bullshit to that. If I'm laying in a bed consuming resources that could go to people who have a chance of recovering; I have no control over my bowel movements; I'm fed through a tube; I can't contribute anything to my family or society; I'm in severe pain.... well, fuck "God's will"... I want to do the right thing and end the torment of everyone involved.

Thats what I would have said if I could compose full sentences.

Spoonie Luv · 10-20-2002, 09:04 PM

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Lev · 10-20-2002, 09:24 PM

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I can see the advantage if someone is terminally ill and suffering from severe pain, but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised. What does everyone else think??

Very true, if euthanasia becomes legal in US, there should be very strict rules regarding it and I think it only should be available to competent terminally ill patients.

mastamindz · 10-20-2002, 10:00 PM

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chodadog · 10-20-2002, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by phogirl69
Anyways, I think this is pretty scary. I can see the advantage if someone is terminally ill and suffering from severe pain, but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised.

Of course it can be abused, and that's why there <i>are</i> rules, standards, guidelines, and all the things that go along with that.

Theo · 11-07-2002, 02:24 PM

euthanasia is progress

irisPornKings · 11-07-2002, 02:27 PM

i don't think it counts as euthanasia if administered without the patient's consent...

and yes, everyone should have a young asian, there's quite a few of them out there, i believe there's enough for everyone.

Machete_ · 11-07-2002, 02:45 PM

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but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised.

So can a plastic-bag or a baseball bat.

If a person is dying of canser, and his/here body is slowley being eaten up by cancer-cell giving the person UNBELIVEABLE pains, why should he not have the right to end his life? he will die shortley anyway?

If I had the chance to end my life while i could still think and eat, I would do it before I went into some kind of Coma or worse. That way his family can think of a softer ending of his life, other than a PAINFULL lond death

Rictor · 11-07-2002, 02:53 PM

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phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	What do u think of euthanasia for people?? I was reading on the net that Euthanasia is legalized in the Netherlands. Euthanasia is the practice were terminally ill patients are "put to sleep" with the assistance of a physician. Some of the articles I read also stated that in certain cases though, euthanasia was administered for non life-threatening cases such as depression, arthritis, diabetes, infants born with deformities/handicaps. In a few cases, euthanasia was even administered without the patients consent! It seems to me too much to euthanize someone for depression, when they can be easily medicated with drugs or treated with therapy... Anyways, I think this is pretty scary. I can see the advantage if someone is terminally ill and suffering from severe pain, but it also is something that can be abused if not supervised. What does everyone else think?? Last edited by phogirl69; 10-20-2002 at 03:01 PM..

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mjrools23 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,604	if someone wants to die then let them...how can u tell somebody who wants to die that they dont have the right to die? shit..i dont care if u want to die cause ur penis is short...if u wana die, then go ahead!

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wsjb78 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyberspace Posts: 594	If you have a right to live and are responsible for your own life why shouldn't one have to right to say when one doens't want to live anymore? Not having the option to decide when you don't wanna live anymore just makes you a puppet in the hand of others. I for myself want to be in control of my life.

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Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Well, first, I want to say that if the case was whether anybody has the right to live or die, I would be on the side of the Christian right (though for entirely different reasons). I don't believe anybody should have the right to take his or her own life at any time. If a person is depressed and wants to die, there could be treatment to help... and the fact is, most people have others who depend on them in one way or another - children, spouses, parents, etc. And who are the most depressed people of our society? Women who have just had children. A woman (or man) should not have the right to bear children and then leave them to fend for themselves. So to say, "Everybody has a right to die if they want" is ridiculous. But that's not the issue, and I don't think it would ever come to that. The issue is terminally ill people who are in severe pain and discomfort, have very little to no chance of recovery, and don't want to drag out their misery for no reason. Yet Christians have such a grip on our government and media that they've convinced everyone that "God" wants us to suffer through to the end - because taking our own lives is a sin! Well, I say bullshit to that. If I'm laying in a bed consuming resources that could go to people who have a chance of recovering; I have no control over my bowel movements; I'm fed through a tube; I can't contribute anything to my family or society; I'm in severe pain.... well, fuck "God's will"... I want to do the right thing and end the torment of everyone involved.

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