What could be done to stop it or is it just coming get the resume ready?

i appreciated reading your insights into the Max Hardcore case in my thread over there... Max Hardcore case should really be waking people due to the visible attack on porn.

He got convicted for NOT sending DVD's and for having adult content on his website. Granted, his content was to the right, but blowjobs are obscene to a group of the population, so this wasn't about extremeness, but picking off a win that can be used as a launching point for broader attacks on porn.

Adult companies can't do anything about this .$$$ action by ICANN, other than be prepared for if the tin foil covered hammer falls, to be ready to deal with it.

skies not falling, but its starting to make thunder sounds.


Fight the forecast!

to get to the point where Caz is saying, ICANN would have to do the tin foil conspiracy theory.

.XXX, .SEX, .PORN, etc.. will surely be a reality in the next couple of years...

What we are waiting to see, is in 2009 , when they have allowed .WHATEVER to occur, and .XXX is one of the first to get approved, then we'll see what ICANN does about cleaning up .COM, or they just don't do anything.

If they do not restrictions, then .XXX will be just like .BIZ, people will register it and use it on their own free will.

The 3 previous proposed laws to use .XXX as mandatory will surely pop back up at that time, but there will be defenses fought by FSC, EFF, ACLU, etc to address that part.

Even if US passes it, then offshore will still flourish, so just means that the rest of adult in the US moves offshore.

Fight the exodus!

i'm going to go on record and say nothing is going to happen. people will try to exploit it, but icann wont monitor or police and the gov will not mandate .xxx

there i said it.

Morality in Media chimes in:



Launching a .XXX Domain Through ICANN's Backdoor, Instead of its Front Door, Won't Protect Kids or Society from Hardcore Pornography

Contact: Robert Peters, President, Morality in Media, 212-870-3210



NEW YORK, June 27 /Christian Newswire/ -- Yesterday, ICANN approved a recommendation that could see many new names introduced to the Internet's addressing system. Presently, users have a range of 21 top-level domains to choose from (e.g., .com and .org). According to a news report, when Dr Paul Twomey, President of ICANN, was asked about the .XXX domain name that ICANN rejected in March 2007, he stated that the new system would be "open to anyone." According to a statement published on the www.icann.org website, "offensive names will be subject to an objection-based process based on public morality and order...ICANN will not be the decision maker on these objections."

Robert Peters, president of Morality in Media, had the following comments.

"If a .XXX domain is destined to come into existence, perhaps it is better that it be just one of countless new domains, than one of the very few officially authorized by ICANN.

"The same objections to the .XXX domain proposal that failed to gain entrance through ICANN's 'front door' (by being officially approved by ICANN) would, of course, also apply to a .XXX domain launched through ICANN's new 'back door,' where ICANN would see no evil whatsoever.

"First, unlike zoning of 'adult uses' in real space, pornographers in cyberspace will not be required to use the new .XXX domain, and many (most) won't. Others will use the new domain, but will also retain their current .com domain. If anything, there will be more porn websites.

"Second, websites that use the .xxx domain will not be required to implement an age verification system. The domain will provide protection for children only to the extent that parents utilize filtering technology; and for various reasons many parents won't use it. Furthermore, filters at home cannot protect children outside the home, and tech savvy kids can circumvent filters.

"Third, the .XXX domain will not protect children from sexual predators who use 'adult porn' (i.e., no actual minors depicted) to arouse themselves and to arouse, desensitize and instruct their child victims.

"Fourth, the .XXX domain will not protect society from hardcore pornography. As the U.S. Supreme Court observed in an obscenity case, there are legitimate governmental interests at stake in stemming the tide of obscene materials 'even assuming it is feasible to enforce effective safeguards against exposure to juveniles and to passersby,' which include maintaining 'a decent society' and protecting 'public safety,' 'family life,' and the 'total community environment.'

"Fifth, the .XXX domain would become one more excuse to not enforce federal Internet obscenity laws, just as the zoning of 'adult businesses' in real space is now used as an excuse by some state investigators and prosecutors to not enforce state obscenity laws.

"If ICANN eventually approves the final version of the domain name expansion plan, organizations that opposed the original .XXX domain proposal can be expected to urge the international arbitration body to reject this domain on 'public morality and order grounds.' The U.S. Supreme Court has stated that government can suppress obscene materials to 'protect the social interest in order and morality.'

"If the .XXX domain is eventually launched through ICANN's back door, what will be promoted are websites offering hardcore pornographic materials that depict, among other things: pseudo child porn, gang bangs, group sex, unsafe sex, sex with barely legal teens, sex with siblings, sex with the neighbors' wives, sex with prostitutes, sex with she-males, sex with animals, sex with excrement, male-on-male rape, and the degradation, rape, torture and murder of women.

"I would also point out that for years the Motion Picture Association of America used the ?X-rating? for films that were unsuitable for children but presumably legal for adults. Pornographers picked up on that and used the 'X' rating, usually by adding an X or two (as in 'XX' and 'XXX') to signify ever more graphic and perverse (but still, the pornographers claimed and still claim, legal) forms of pornography.

"On a related matter, one wonders whether the .ho name will pass the arbitration panel's public morality and order test and if so, whether it will be awarded to a rapper, radio shock jock, prostitute, or pimp."



Fight the strange bedfellows!

For an organization that is to be so moral and seeking to protect kids, you would think they get their facts straight.

Pedophiles don't use "adult legal" porn to arouse themselves... they aren't into that.. their brain is wired differently.. they get off on seeing kids.

This is clear proof how people like these guys all the way up to Oprah who are confusing legal adult content with illegal Child porn content.

What ever happened to the morality to getting the facts straight!

Fight the Immorality in Media for making sh*t up to fit your purposes!

very true point

There isn't much that anyone can do at the moment. It will take another year before they open the doors, and when they do, the legal mess will begin.

What you can do is to atleast know what is going on, to be prepared with what your individual company is going to do.

You may decide for every .xxx, .sex, .porn etc that its easier to just buy your domains at the registration price, rather than at the domainer/squatter's price.

You may decide to do nothing.. let .COM rule and let others waste their money on the other TLD.

Either way you play it, best to be informed..


Fight the knowledge is power!

very true point

I would say that's not neccessarily the case. I have my shit trademarked for adult on the internet. I can take domains from any squatter out there using my trademarks for adult internet. I'm pretty sure that will still hold sway over any and all domain extensions. Perhaps a lawyer could chime in here about that.

you would be in the minority.. so many have not done this.

and it is in the dispute resolutions that take into account trademarks, so if you got them, you have a case.


Fight the tm-less!