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  • Domain Diva
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2007
    • 10180

    #101
    Originally posted by Pornopat
    I think he was just as me trying to point out that you are inexperienced and the banana thing was just an aid to make you see that. Experience needs time and you are still in "the getting to know the industry" fase.
    That is not a bad thing. Being there and acting like you are experienced and know it all is a bad thing though and irritates some people. We have all been young. We have all been there. We are all human and hopefully improve on things in time.
    Being hard and clear is not always because you want to insult somebody. Sometimes you just want them to open your eyes.
    In this case you might read back your initial post. It sounded like you and you alone were asked by a big company. Further on in the thread you say they might have approached several people. Might have been wise to write the first post in a more humble way.
    Have you had that good talk with Michael yet?

    You will make progress in the industry but you are not there yet...
    I have faith in you though.
    Pornopat thank you for the advice and I agree with you 100 percent I still have my noob plates on but I really am trying

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    • Just Mike
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2002
      • 3726

      #102
      last show in prauge was terrible for business but alot of fun. IMO there are way too many shows and they need to be cut back to make them actually worth the investment

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      • Domain Diva
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Oct 2007
        • 10180

        #103
        Originally posted by Sexentertain_mike
        last show in prauge was terrible for business but alot of fun. IMO there are way too many shows and they need to be cut back to make them actually worth the investment
        I totally agree mike but I was told to find out so I asked the question

        what show took place in Prague may I ask ? and why was it bad for business as this may help me a lot .

        thanks

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        • O MARINA
          I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
          • Mar 2003
          • 13796

          #104
          Originally posted by VG.Content
          a bald guy who is about to get a banana in his ass?


          This is the best thing I heard all day

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          • MaDalton
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            • Feb 2004
            • 39861

            #105
            Originally posted by O MARINA
            This is the best thing I heard all day
            you are no big help here
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            • datatank
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2004
              • 5471

              #106

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              • O MARINA
                I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya
                • Mar 2003
                • 13796

                #107
                Originally posted by MaDalton
                you are no big help here


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                • The Adult Broker
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 5265

                  #108
                  Has anyone who wants to do this 'euro show' researched the present Euro shows such as Eurowebtaiment-Vienna/Mallorca depending year, WA-AMS, Venus-Berlin, AOE etc. etc. before they thought to create their own? And outside of N.A. you also have Negril, Costa Rica, Thailand and more for locations. Throw in a couple for Canada at some point.

                  And then the private invite show/events not on the regular calendar.

                  Throw in the US shows that are every single month now it seems. In September there are 2 shows alone unless you tag on to Munich from AMS then consider it 3 in Sept.

                  I think I lost count at 25 plus shows a year. And after almost 7 years of doing shows... it's gotten out of hand.

                  While I have yet to post in any of these recent 'fire' threads, this one I have decided to because I believe anyone who has done their research on the last decade of shows, the ebb and flow of them, and profit/loss margins, of them, etc. may have reconsidered adding another one.

                  Throw in the value of the US dollar in our economy right now against the Euro, Pound or almost any other currency--and well, that alone speaks for itself.

                  That is the analysis research needed prior to a thread and any company with adult and economic business acumen I think would know that.

                  I believe you will find only a slight handful of U.S. people will go to yet another show and even less if you consider the veterans in this industry.

                  I go where the money flows, not where it is only spent.

                  no reply post necessary. I will not be back in this thread. Thanks.

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                  • ThumbLord

                    #109
                    what the Adult Broker said, jeez girlie can you read my mind?
                    if so please stop with it.
                    Last edited by Guest; 06-26-2008, 03:29 PM.

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                    • halfpint
                      GFY's Halfpint
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 15223

                      #110
                      Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                      Target the European market, save your headache.
                      I kinda think this says it all. I would not travel to the USA just to go to a trade show and I guess the USA webmasters feel the same about spending a shit load of money just to come to Europe and see/hear what they have heard before. I think If you are gonna do one in Europe it would be far better to target the European webmaster/market

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                      • ThumbLord

                        #111
                        forget it.
                        sorry

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                        • nico-t
                          emperor of my world
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 29903

                          #112
                          Originally posted by quesadilla
                          thanks kmr. rofllllllllll. i love my new avatar.


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                          • he-fox
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 2884

                            #113
                            Originally posted by quesadilla
                            thanks kmr. rofllllllllll. i love my new avatar.


                            roflmaooooo

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                            • jimmy-3-way
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 3861

                              #114
                              Originally posted by Promo Claire
                              You are jumping to a lot of conclusions ? They are thinking of taking the whole hotel and inc 2 meals a day the 3 days would be $500-$600 for hotel they are also thinking of making a subsidy so it could be less ,and flights will be handled too this is going to be under a 2k show based on what I have seen all in.
                              Claire let me be the first to say I'd be happy to attend a free show in Eastern Europe, let me know where to fax a copy of my passport and I'll send along an address to FedEx my plane tix to.
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                              • C H R I S
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 10842

                                #115
                                Originally posted by The Adult Broker
                                Has anyone who wants to do this 'euro show' researched the present Euro shows such as Eurowebtaiment-Vienna/Mallorca depending year, WA-AMS, Venus-Berlin, AOE etc. etc. before they thought to create their own? And outside of N.A. you also have Negril, Costa Rica, Thailand and more for locations. Throw in a couple for Canada at some point.

                                And then the private invite show/events not on the regular calendar.

                                Throw in the US shows that are every single month now it seems. In September there are 2 shows alone unless you tag on to Munich from AMS then consider it 3 in Sept.

                                I think I lost count at 25 plus shows a year. And after almost 7 years of doing shows... it's gotten out of hand.

                                While I have yet to post in any of these recent 'fire' threads, this one I have decided to because I believe anyone who has done their research on the last decade of shows, the ebb and flow of them, and profit/loss margins, of them, etc. may have reconsidered adding another one.

                                Throw in the value of the US dollar in our economy right now against the Euro, Pound or almost any other currency--and well, that alone speaks for itself.

                                That is the analysis research needed prior to a thread and any company with adult and economic business acumen I think would know that.

                                I believe you will find only a slight handful of U.S. people will go to yet another show and even less if you consider the veterans in this industry.

                                I go where the money flows, not where it is only spent.

                                no reply post necessary. I will not be back in this thread. Thanks.
                                Words of wisdom - also great comments from Mickey, Ben and other respected euro companies.

                                Invest in the shows that we already have, which there are too many too keep up with.

                                As someone who plans two of the largest North American shows I can tell you that there is alot more to putting on a show than picking a location and they will come. The costs involved in putting on a succsessful show are astronomical. If you throw in subsidies to get people there you are talking about a serious bloodbath.

                                There are several fine Euro Webmaster shows and gatherings - the chances of a new one attracting attendees from US are slim to none.

                                I have to say though Claire, you have spunk and determination.
                                Last edited by C H R I S; 06-26-2008, 07:18 PM.
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                                • Domain Diva
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 10180

                                  #116
                                  Thanks AVNChris for the detailed reply

                                  To everyone else that gave comments I will now print and send them the feedback

                                  It seems to me its not wanted and without gfys help how would they have known, that is why they requested l ask

                                  Thanks guys

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                                  • CarlosTheGaucho
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 9553

                                    #117
                                    What Lori, Chris and the others said, if you cross out all the banana type replies you'll probably get a very complex feedback.

                                    If someone desperately wants to spend money outside of the existing shows and prefferably in Prague, I might have a tip for a sponsorship though.

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                                    • thunder99
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 503

                                      #118
                                      Their is room for another European show, but not if it's another Webmaster Access. I've thought about trying to one in Budapest that has two specific themes to it.... Traffic and Content.

                                      The content market out of Eastern Europe could be so much bigger if it was organized properly, so I'd have half the show floor devoted to this. That means I'd get all the local shooters, talent agencies, make up artists etc together in one place where the could meet the buyers and really do some proper business. Amsterdam is OK for business, but there's too many parties and the company reps don't appear 'till 6 and arent that interested in doing business.

                                      The second focus would be traffic, there are a lot of very smart webmasters based in Eastern Europe, that would attend a show that was kinda local to them. Budapest would be way more central than Prague for this (and probably cheaper).
                                      yeah, yeah

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                                      • elmy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 2337

                                        #119
                                        Prague is OK for me
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                                        • Why
                                          MFBA
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 7230

                                          #120
                                          i think there are enough shows already, however... i think Prague is a better choice then london... as its well known as a sex city. the brits are cracking down on hardcore, so who wants to support that regime by going to their country and helping their economy? its also overly expensive in london.

                                          the dates suck because the miami show is usually a week or two right after that, so most americans would probably NOT make the jump.

                                          as an american living in europe, i think most americans are pretty jaded about the european shows because there has already been a number of very poor european shows they made the trip for and turned out to be lame ducks. its pretty expensive to come here these days as well.

                                          on a side note i think its funny that americans think people in europe should come to more shows, yet its just as much time and energy for us to go there as for them to come here.

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                                          • emjay
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 4280

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by elmy
                                            Prague is OK for me
                                            Clair, if it's at the club in Prague where Orgycash do their shoots, count me in


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                                            • TheMaster
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 2734

                                              #122
                                              Vastly prefer Prague over London, London is too expensive for what you get, rather pay a ticket to New York than spent my money in London.

                                              If you choose Spain, great, but do it on the mainland close or in Barcelona or Madrid, pain to find connections to smaller airports.

                                              26-30th June is a bad date, that period is probably one of the fullest in Europe: weddings, festivals, baptisings ... everyone plans their stuff during that period

                                              btw would be great if some of the Amsterdam shows would move to other cities from time to time, Amsterdam isn't that appealing if you're not into weed

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