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  • Sly
    Let's do some business!
    • Sep 2004
    • 31375

    #16
    Originally posted by Promo Claire
    I totally agree KMR Stitch but every show you mentioned is usa based although webmasteraccess has the amsterdam show.

    The market is growing in europe and I think they are looking at tempting usa webmasters to experience that region more and combining it with thier euro customers
    If you want Americans to come to Europe, you are really really really going to need to offer something unique. Most of us only need to travel within a couple hundred miles to go to any number of great shows. To get us to travel thousands of miles, get a passport (a lot of Americans still don't have one), and shell out thousands of dollars, it's going to have to be something incredibly unique.

    Free registration will need to be a given... Hotel giveaways would probably be an attraction as well. It's just going to be very difficult to get an American to spend money they don't need to spend to see people that they can see at any American show.
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    • MaDalton
      I am Amazing Content!
      • Feb 2004
      • 39861

      #17
      Originally posted by Promo Claire
      I think they have considered the cost and dont expect the first show to be without headace also they are using trade event consultants and from what Im told some of those consultants have experience in adult trade shows in europe and usa already.

      It was the date and location that they could not decide on
      why do you come and ask when you already made up your mind? use the search and put in "Snowgathering", then you see what Roald means

      then search a bit more and look what happened to the AOE Show.

      or wait, i save you the time: it's dead

      there are 2 more european shows btw., they are called www.eurowebtainment.com

      but anyways, i would come since it's only 2 hour drive for me, but don't expect too many others
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      • darksoul
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 4997

        #18
        imho, there aren't enough shows in Europe so its a good idea.
        The only attendable show is webmaster access the rest (2 ?) are crap in EU
        so theres room for another one.
        my 2c.
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        • KMR Stitch
          I am cool
          • Jul 2003
          • 14494

          #19
          Ok, here is how to make americans go.


          Free Airfare
          Free Hotel
          Free Registration
          All Open Bar
          All Free Food
          Daily Stipend for work lost
          Travel Perdiem

          I'm So there if this happens!

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          • KMR Stitch
            I am cool
            • Jul 2003
            • 14494

            #20
            Ok, here is how to make americans go.


            Free Airfare
            Free Hotel
            Free Registration
            All Open Bar
            All Free Food
            Daily Stipend for work lost
            Travel Per diem

            I'm So there if this happens!

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            • Domain Diva
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2007
              • 10180

              #21
              Originally posted by VG.Content
              Unless this show offers something virtually amazing, I don't foresee getting a strong or much attention from the US market. As there are many shows in the USA, not to mention the Costa Rica show, and The island gathering it would be a very tough decision to make a trip over to Europe. To make a trip like that you're looking at a solid week of work missed, keep in mind flight times, costs, jet lag, 4 days for the show, 2 days for flying 1 day for packing/unpacking. It just does not make sense.

              PLUS, a new show, where no one knows what to expect, how well it's organized I don't really see a lot of people saying "fuck I cannot miss this!"

              And as many people have said prior to this, there are simply just too many shows.

              I myself would think the ideal thing here if they wanted to break into and test the show market would be to do a small gathering for basically Euro webmasters and then build from it. If they target them, do a great show then word spreads and people will want to attend the next year. Phoenix started small, and so did other shows. To really make this a good show I would aim small keep it more local impress everyone and come the next year, it's on.
              It costs me about 5k in total to go to a usa show for 2 although thats not the subject.

              You are jumping to a lot of conclusions ? They are thinking of taking the whole hotel and inc 2 meals a day the 3 days would be $500-$600 for hotel they are also thinking of making a subsidy so it could be less ,and flights will be handled too this is going to be under a 2k show based on what I have seen all in.

              This is not some half ass idea they are looking at a big investment.


              Still Im not getting the feedback as regards the date and location

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              • KMR Stitch
                I am cool
                • Jul 2003
                • 14494

                #22
                Claire you make no sense. You ask for feedback, people give it, its not what you want to hear so you get defensive. Sounds like you don't need feedback and wanted instead a bunch of people to come in saying, "I'm so there" and wow "I can't wait". Damn. Why even ask if your big clients have their minds made up?
                Stop wasting peoples time.

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                • darksoul
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 4997

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Promo Claire
                  Still Im not getting the feedback as regards the date and location
                  The location seems perfect, end of June its a bit early for some but I guess it could work.
                  It would be better somewhere in July/August though
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                  • darksoul
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 4997

                    #24
                    Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                    Claire you make no sense. You ask for feedback, people give it, its not what you want to hear so you get defensive. Sounds like you don't need feedback and wanted instead a bunch of people to come in saying, "I'm so there" and wow "I can't wait". Damn. Why even ask if your big clients have their minds made up?
                    Stop wasting peoples time.
                    You're assuming they care much about US people. WA gets only a handful of them and I don't think they should be concerned with that.
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                    • Domain Diva
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 10180

                      #25
                      Originally posted by darksoul
                      imho, there aren't enough shows in Europe so its a good idea.
                      The only attendable show is webmaster access the rest (2 ?) are crap in EU
                      so theres room for another one.
                      my 2c.

                      thanks for the comment? what location and dateline ?

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                      • Domain Diva
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 10180

                        #26
                        Originally posted by darksoul
                        You're assuming they care much about US people. WA gets only a handful of them and I don't think they should be concerned with that.
                        Well I think they wish to accomadate as many as possible.

                        It maybe they contact webmaster access and try to do a deal with them I was only asked to see if the location and date was good and if it was a show that they invested in and the cost was low would anyone have interest

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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Promo Claire
                          It costs me about 5k in total to go to a usa show for 2 although thats not the subject.

                          You are jumping to a lot of conclusions ? They are thinking of taking the whole hotel and inc 2 meals a day the 3 days would be $500-$600 for hotel they are also thinking of making a subsidy so it could be less ,and flights will be handled too this is going to be under a 2k show based on what I have seen all in.

                          This is not some half ass idea they are looking at a big investment.


                          Still Im not getting the feedback as regards the date and location
                          I seriously doubt all the above, under a 2k show in total for a US webmaster huh! Would this mean we Europeans get paid to come over?


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                          • Domain Diva
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 10180

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                            Claire you make no sense. You ask for feedback, people give it, its not what you want to hear so you get defensive. Sounds like you don't need feedback and wanted instead a bunch of people to come in saying, "I'm so there" and wow "I can't wait". Damn. Why even ask if your big clients have their minds made up?
                            Stop wasting peoples time.
                            Im not going defensive on anything as I just mentioned if its a No I would advise them to consider teaming up with webmaster access or others

                            Its called a debate and a debate cannot be all one way or thats a discussion

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                            • Sly
                              Let's do some business!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 31375

                              #29
                              Originally posted by darksoul
                              You're assuming they care much about US people. WA gets only a handful of them and I don't think they should be concerned with that.
                              That's because she said they want Americans. If they don't care all that much about Americans, then go for it. The Europeans I'm sure will have a good time and the few Americans that choose to go.
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                              • Brad
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                                • Jan 2007
                                • 2510

                                #30
                                Here's my 2 cents.

                                If it's going to be subsidized, the location doesn't really matter. I don't see how it is possible to bring people there for 2k based on current flight costs, etc. But if you can... London is really expensive but is a hub and is cheaper to fly to so it seems the obvious choice. It will be tough to get North Americans interested in the show because there are so many shows already and the time difference makes it harder to do biz with each other. Plus the fact that you will have very little chance getting webmasters to the show what is the incentive for us to go? Aside from having a good time.
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