**New Euro Webmaster Show *** Prague***Urgent Feedback Required***

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Too many fucking shows. The ones that are out there now are struggling. Jesus people stop doing shows and fucking do some work.

For anyone to fully be able to answer your questions, they would need to know who the target market is. Webmasters, production people, program owners, etc. It's also important to know if the target is Europeans or Europeans and Americans. For example, Americans may be more likely to go to London as its easier to get to and more familiar than say... Prague.

Honestly, instead of more people starting more shows... why not invest in some of the good shows that are already out there? Save some headaches, add some definite quality to those shows, and it would be cheaper. A new show is not going to make any money most likely, will probably lose quite a bit... does your client really want that?

Thanks Sly the target market is Europeans and Americans.

London was actually the first choice but after looking at costs to the webmaster and facilites Prague was given first option but that could change based on the comments given on gfy.

Thanks for the reply much appricated

Name one show that is not catered totally to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level?

Name one? They all cater totally to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level!

What more can you do to cater totally to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level?

Xbiz Summer Forum = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
The Phoenix Forum = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
Internext = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
Costa Rica Bash = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
JBM CABO = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
Webmaster Access Shows = Caters to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level.
and more.........


Every single show does what you are saying will be catered to adult webmasters on a financial, business, and personal level. There is no better. There is only different city, stripclubs, parties, and bullshit panel topics. There is no reason for anyone to do more shows. None.

Tell them to invest their money in traffic and save themselves the headache.

Yes Sly it is not a money issue its a branding thing and wanting to establish a european show of thier own

as much as i would like a show in Prague i don't see room for another show. it's too many already. i wish Eric would listen to me and switch Webmaster Access between Amsterdam and Prague ;)

but more than one european show for US webmasters i really don't see

I totally agree KMR Stitch but every show you mentioned is usa based although webmasteraccess has the amsterdam show.

The market is growing in europe and I think they are looking at tempting usa webmasters to experience that region more and combining it with thier euro customers

tell them it's not worth the headache. and yes I speak from experience.

I think they have considered the cost and dont expect the first show to be without headace also they are using trade event consultants and from what Im told some of those consultants have experience in adult trade shows in europe and usa already.

It was the date and location that they could not decide on

AWE has a great show.

Webmaster Access Amsterdam is awesome too.

Not sure how many shows the world needs. Seems like a waste of time. I live in the u.s. and I won't go.

American's don't want to spend 2500 bucks round trip to go to a trade show, another 1200 in hotel. You should really look at the ROI.

Searched this:

5:45am
DFW 10:35am
PRG

Arrives 16 Feb
1-stop
Atlanta
(10 hr 13 min layover)
21 hr 50 min
Delta 756
Boeing 757
In-Flight Services
Coach (B)
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Delta 62
Boeing 767-300ER
In-Flight Services
Coach (B)
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From $2,756.80 round trip
+ $75.82 Taxes/Fees = $2,832.62

+ Hotel at roughly 1200 give or take. Time from work. If I want to spend this kind of money I want to take a real vacation. There are tons of shows to attend for 1/4 this price to network.

Just honest opinion here. Americans are not going to Europe in droves. The economy sucks. We aren't spending money on traveling to Europe for shows.

Target the European market, save your headache.

Unless this show offers something virtually amazing, I don't foresee getting a strong or much attention from the US market. As there are many shows in the USA, not to mention the Costa Rica show, and The island gathering it would be a very tough decision to make a trip over to Europe. To make a trip like that you're looking at a solid week of work missed, keep in mind flight times, costs, jet lag, 4 days for the show, 2 days for flying 1 day for packing/unpacking. It just does not make sense.

PLUS, a new show, where no one knows what to expect, how well it's organized I don't really see a lot of people saying "fuck I cannot miss this!"

And as many people have said prior to this, there are simply just too many shows.

I myself would think the ideal thing here if they wanted to break into and test the show market would be to do a small gathering for basically Euro webmasters and then build from it. If they target them, do a great show then word spreads and people will want to attend the next year. Phoenix started small, and so did other shows. To really make this a good show I would aim small keep it more local impress everyone and come the next year, it's on.

to be perfectly honest I think there are enough shows already