"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child"

[SmokeyTheBear]

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child" - Justice Anthony Kennedy

I betcha he would feel differently if it were his children being raped.


Court rejects death penalty for raping children

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court has struck down a Louisiana law that allows the execution of people convicted of a raping a child.


In a 5-4 vote, the court says the law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in cases of child rape violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

"The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented.

There has not been an execution in the United States for a crime that did not also involve the death of the victim in 44 years.

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[TampaToker]

Just read that on yahoo. Surprised the vote was so close to be honest

[GatorB]

Hey smokey are you angry because we don't have enough death and killing in our society?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Hey smokey are you angry because we don't have enough death and killing in our society?

yes thats exactly it, or perhaps its because we have more than enough child rapists.

[tranza]

That was a very close call.

I'd be happy to see pedophiles die.

But at the same time, I'm not 100% against their decision.

[Rhesus]

I agree with the judge. Death penalty is barbaric and, according to my ethics, unethical.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

yes thats exactly it, or perhaps its because we have more than enough child rapists.

dude is in prison, he isn't getting out and will most likely to be killed in prison by another inmate than die of old age. You want him put to sleep like you would do to a beloved pet that has cancer. I think getting shanked in the throat is more appropriate but we'll agree to disagree.

[SmokeyTheBear]

p.s. the angry smiley was in regards to the statement in the quotes. Personally i dont agree with the death penalty for anything. I would rather he have said.

"death is too good for child rapists"

[Kudles]

That is such crap!

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Biddy

That is such crap!

Mmm the bloodlust is boiling within you I see.

[Jenny S.]

I totally agree with the court. As I am not totally opposed to the death penalty in certain cases, the inflationary use of capital punishment in this country has to stop. Excessive use of capital punishment is the signature of dictatorships. It should be reserved for the most violent murderers.

I am not saying some rapists don't deserve it, but yet, what's next? Death penalty for site-owners that promote rape? I can name some programs in here that have banners on rape sites.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by GatorB

dude is in prison, he isn't getting out and will most likely to be killed in prison by another inmate than die of old age. You want him put to sleep like you would do to a beloved pet that has cancer. I think getting shanked in the throat is more appropriate but we'll agree to disagree.

Accused Child Rapist Escapes Indiana Jail

did i put words in your mouth ? please state where i said i want him put to sleep ?

You want to molest small farm animals covered in nutella.

[StuartD]

Death is too good for them. They make it so sanitary and painless. Therefore, it's not proportionate.

To be proportionate, they should be made to suffer for a very long time.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Rhesus

I agree with the judge. Death penalty is barbaric and, according to my ethics, unethical.

more or less barbaric than child rape ?

[JamesK]

I'd not give him death penalty, but 6 months in the torturing chamber.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Accused Child Rapist Escapes Indiana Jail

did i put words in your mouth ? please state where i said i want him put to sleep ?

You want to molest small farm animals covered in nutella.

If he had gotten the death penalty that's how they execute people now.

Oh and that article CLEARLY states JAIL, not PRISON, HUGE difference. How many escape in year less than 1-10,000? How many of those get more than mile away 1-100?


here's some number for you to chew on

"Billy Sothern of the Capital Appeals Project cited Department of Justice statistics that all 14 rapists executed by Louisiana in the past 75 years or so were African-American. Nationwide from 1930 to 1964, nearly 90 percent of executed rapists were black, he said."

WOW whites must not rape very much. Must be a black thing.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by JamesK

I'd not give him death penalty, but 6 months in the torturing chamber.

maybe give a gorilla like 50 viagra's and let them be cell mates

[Eriic]

I believe a child molester should get the death penalty as well, However, one argument that was brought to light was that, "If a child molester is going to face the death penalty then he might kill the living witness / victim, won't change his verdict."

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

more or less barbaric than child rape ?

So we lower ourselves to their standards?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Eriic

I believe a child molester should get the death penalty as well, However, one argument that was brought to light was that, "If a child molester is going to face the death penalty then he might kill the living witness / victim, won't change his verdict."

Yep. They will be even more motivated to kill the child. It called unintended consequences. See while the death penalty for this scum seems appropraite, as the old saying goes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by GatorB

If he had gotten the death penalty that's how they execute people now.

and where did i say they should execute him ? cmon now don't be a pussy and flip flop.

Originally Posted by GatorB

Oh and that article CLEARLY states JAIL, not PRISON, HUGE difference. How many escape in year less than 1-10,000? How many of those get more than mile away 1-100?

semantics.. i just posted the first googled result, 1 is too many

Originally Posted by GatorB

here's some number for you to chew on

"Billy Sothern of the Capital Appeals Project cited Department of Justice statistics that all 14 rapists executed by Louisiana in the past 75 years or so were African-American. Nationwide from 1930 to 1964, nearly 90 percent of executed rapists were black, he said."

WOW whites must not rape very much. Must be a black thing.

wtf does that have to do with anything, did i say anything about black or white people . go back and read a line or 2.

heres some numbers for you to chew on.

The swallow tail butterfly beats his wings 300 times per minute , the slowest of any butterfly.

[Jenny S.]

Originally Posted by JamesK

I'd not give him death penalty, but 6 months in the torturing chamber.

Funny how people from countries where child fuckers get 12 months of counseling, at best, or where a vast part of the population wants to legalize pedophilia, support torture and capital punishment in the US.

http://www.shortnews.de/start.cfm?id=624637 - article is not in english

[Tom_PM]

It would have been a terrible prescedent if they'd approved it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by GatorB

So we lower ourselves to their standards?

are you a fucking moron or what ? did i say we lower ourselves , stop putting words in my mouth you fucking imbecile , learn to read , pay close attention to where i said i DONT agree with the death penalty. You really are an annoying twat sometimes you know that. You are like a 5 year old child who cant stop repeating himself.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

Funny how people from countries where child fuckers get 12 months of counseling, at best, or where a vast part of the population wants to legalize pedophilia, support torture and capital punishment in the US.

http://www.shortnews.de/start.cfm?id=624637 - article is not in english

Neither is your post.

[Chauncy]

you know what I would love to see everyone of them fry but the great thing about this is that when people who fuck with kids go to prison they usually get killed by the inmates or abused so bad that they pray for death so they will get it in the end no matter what anyways

[Sly]

Granted I'm not a prosecutor, but I'm betting that the death penalty works better as leverage than it does as an actual crime deterrent.

Anyway... throw a pedophile in gen pop... that's the death penalty right there.

[GatorB]

Biggest reason why death penalty should be abolished. JEFFREY DAHMER

Dahmer got life and within 4 years was dead due getting his skull beat in with a metal rod by an angry black inmate. Had Dahmer gotten death he'd still be alive to day giving interviews talking about how Jesus saved him and other BS and when his time came( if he didn't die of old age first ) he would be gently put to sleep. As I see it his actual death penalty was more appropriate and it didn't have to be done under the name of the people.

[Jenny S.]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Neither is your post.


"Yep. They will be even more motivated to kill the child. It called unintended consequences. See while the death penalty for this scum seems appropraite, as the old saying goes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

Neither is your post.

[DWB]

Define "rape of a child" please.

Under what age do they consider the victim a child?

I find "children" and "minors" to be two different groups. A minor can be considered all people under the age of 18, but I consider them more 14, 15, 16 and 17 years old. A child to be is 13 and under. Pre-teen age.

I would be in favor of killing anyone who rapes someone under the age of 12 or 13, still a pre-teen.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Biggest reason why death penalty should be abolished. JEFFREY DAHMER

Dahmer got life and within 4 years was dead due getting his skull beat in with a metal rod by an angry black inmate. Had Dahmer gotten death he'd still be alive to day giving interviews talking about how Jesus saved him and other BS and when his time came( if he didn't die of old age first ) he would be gently put to sleep. As I see it his actual death penalty was more appropriate and it didn't have to be done under the name of the people.

Just a quick question, what difference does it make what colour the inmate who killed him was?

[borked]

I'm not unhappy about the decision. I do not see that the crime, as terrible as it is, warrants death.

Castration, yes. Death no.

Remember, this is for 'rape of a child'. Sex with a young kid is rape nomatter what. But what happens if someone has consenting sex with a 17 yr old and the bitch turns the tables and claims rape. And for whatever reason, it gets upheld. This kind of situation has happened all over the world for consenting adults. Lots of cases where the guy is cleared after years in prison.

Death for rape was thrown out in the supreme court not so long ago for this reason. So why any different for minors? Just castrate all rapists and be done with it.

Castrate all pedos and put them on a lifetime regime of estrogen.

Many other ways to punish these kinds of crimes imo

[Tom_PM]

Exactly. The slope gets steep and slippery very fast.

[GCN]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Define "rape of a child" please.

Under what age do they consider the victim a child?

I find "children" and "minors" to be two different groups. A minor can be considered all people under the age of 18, but I consider them more 14, 15, 16 and 17 years old. A child to be is 13 and under. Pre-teen age.

I would be in favor of killing anyone who rapes someone under the age of 12 or 13, still a pre-teen.

rape is still rape, doesnt matter if it's 12, 13 or 15

[Barefootsies]

Oh contraire mo'fraire.

Turn the other other cheek.
Eye for an eye the whole world would be blind.
It's better to forgive..

....and all the other things that the "Bible" tells you that you should be doing.

[baddog]

Thank your liberal court.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by GCN

rape is still rape, doesnt matter if it's 12, 13 or 15

Yeah, then "molestation" might be lumped in, and people would be put to death for that.

Anyone remember the small kid who was put on the sex offenders list because he kissed a girl in gradeschool or whatever it was? Death for him!

I tell ya, whats disturbing to me is that the court didnt shoot it down unanimously.

[tiger]

Death is too easy.

Life in prison is a much worse fate for a child molester. Maybe a better idea would be that everyone in prison has to wear a sign saying what they were convicted of.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by GCN

rape is still rape, doesnt matter if it's 12, 13 or 15

Of course it is, but "rape" alone is not worthy of death.

That is a slippery slope. What about statutory rape when a 18 year old guy gets caught banging his 17 year old girlfriend. We gonna kill him? Hardly.

Rape of a CHILD deserves death or slow torture.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

Funny how people from countries where child fuckers get 12 months of counseling, at best, or where a vast part of the population wants to legalize pedophilia, support torture and capital punishment in the US.

http://www.shortnews.de/start.cfm?id=624637 - article is not in english

Idiot.

Here's a little tip for you: not everything you read on the internet is true.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by GCN

rape is still rape, doesnt matter if it's 12, 13 or 15

And statutory "rape" is still statutory. A 19 year old who has sex with his willing 15 year old girlfriend would be considered a child rapist in the courts.

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

I totally agree with the court. As I am not totally opposed to the death penalty in certain cases, the inflationary use of capital punishment in this country has to stop. Excessive use of capital punishment is the signature of dictatorships. It should be reserved for the most violent murderers.

I am not saying some rapists don't deserve it, but yet, what's next? Death penalty for site-owners that promote rape? I can name some programs in here that have banners on rape sites.

I am going to assume you dont have kids lol



or at least I hope the hell you dont!

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Thank your liberal court.

Those damn liberal courts that believe pornography is free speech. Damn them all!

[pornguy]

The ONLY problem that I have with the death penalty, is the number of people that are wrongly convicted.

Man they better be 1 gazillion percent correct.

[Jenny S.]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

I am going to assume you dont have kids lol



or at least I hope the hell you dont!

I have. You think people who are against the nazification of the USA and only partially support the death penalty shouldn't have kids? If someone is against the death penalty for a certain offense it doesn't necessarily mean the person supports the offense, you know that, or are you just "smartassing".

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

I believe the reason for this not becoming the law if the fine line that this area can cross over into.

For example.. an 18 year old boy who has sex with a willing 14 year old girl...and the parents call rape. Technical terms, since he is so many years older than the "victim" , it would be considered "child rape"..should we put that boy to death?...NO.

A young 14 year old in my town was left babysitting his neighbors 9 months old baby.. and 3 year old. The 14 year old anally raped the baby to the point he had to have alot of surgery and barely lived through it. They are trying to figure out if to try this boy as an adult or not. ...Ask yourself.. does this 14 year old deserve to die?... Consider the abuse the 14 year old had to go through to make him even think of doing such a thing to another... still think the 14 year old should die?

There are so many gray areas , its sad but true.

Any rape resulting in a death should have the death penalty...children especially.

[Jenny S.]

Now, with so many in here supporting the death penalty for child molesters, why not take an active role on a small scale in here, before we sent people on the gallows?After all, those who promote rape and child molestation are almost as bad as the rapists, don't you think?
We all can contribute. Let's do some needed self-censorship, and let's clean out the adult industry from scum bags who run ads on rape- and child molestation forums and tubes like this


hxxp://badpinkgirl.com/2769/Grandpa_gets_a_taste_of_a_young_granddaughter_best _friend.html


I propose:

1. Let's create a self commitment to be signed by every reputable webmaster in here, with a pledge that he/she won't support child exploitation and rape, neither actively nor passively with banners and affiliates, and that her/she won't do business with programs that support rape and molestation sites.

THIS MEANS: If big dating programs are found to be supporting it I won't do biz with them any more either.

2. Let's make a sub forum where web masters can post links to sites that promote real torture, rape, the "sick grandpa sneaks into 5th graders room..."-theme, so everybody can see and recognize the problem. Too many in here act as it wasn't there.

3. Let's send program owners, who bluntly display their affiliate banners on such sites, a warning, so they can't claim later they didn't know about it.

3. If they still refuse to take their banners down from such sites, let's ostracize them from the adult community, means, no reputable webmaster in here should do business with them, not even through affiliates.

What do ya all think about that? Anybody wanting to take an active role in fighting child rape? Or is it just talk about "how we should hang and torture child molesters" while we do business with them, at the same time.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by borked

I'm not unhappy about the decision. I do not see that the crime, as terrible as it is, warrants death.

Castration, yes. Death no.

Remember, this is for 'rape of a child'. Sex with a young kid is rape nomatter what. But what happens if someone has consenting sex with a 17 yr old and the bitch turns the tables and claims rape. And for whatever reason, it gets upheld. This kind of situation has happened all over the world for consenting adults. Lots of cases where the guy is cleared after years in prison.

Death for rape was thrown out in the supreme court not so long ago for this reason. So why any different for minors? Just castrate all rapists and be done with it.

Castrate all pedos and put them on a lifetime regime of estrogen.

Many other ways to punish these kinds of crimes imo

The difference is a child, we will say 11 years old, is still developing mentally and physically while a 17-year-old is more mentally developed. A 17-year-old can defend themselves, somewhat, and is more likely to mentally recover than an 11-year-old.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Just a quick question, what difference does it make what colour the inmate who killed him was?

Because most of Dahmer's victims were black.

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally Posted by Jenny S.

Now, with so many in here supporting the death penalty for child molesters, why not take an active role on a small scale in here, before we sent people on the gallows?After all, those who promote rape and child molestation are almost as bad as the rapists, don't you think?
We all can contribute. Let's do some needed self-censorship, and let's clean out the adult industry from scum bags who run ads on rape- and child molestation forums and tubes like this


hxxp://badpinkgirl.com/2769/Grandpa_gets_a_taste_of_a_young_granddaughter_best _friend.html


I propose:

1. Let's create a self commitment to be signed by every reputable webmaster in here, with a pledge that he/she won't support child exploitation and rape, neither actively nor passively with banners and affiliates, and that her/she won't do business with programs that support rape and molestation sites.

THIS MEANS: If big dating programs are found to be supporting it I won't do biz with them any more either.

2. Let's make a sub forum where web masters can post links to sites that promote real torture, rape, the "sick grandpa sneaks into 5th graders room..."-theme, so everybody can see and recognize the problem. Too many in here act as it wasn't there.

3. Let's send program owners, who bluntly display their affiliate banners on such sites, a warning, so they can't claim later they didn't know about it.

3. If they still refuse to take their banners down from such sites, let's ostracize them from the adult community, means, no reputable webmaster in here should do business with them, not even through affiliates.

What do ya all think about that? Anybody wanting to take an active role in fighting child rape? Or is it just talk about "how we should hang and torture child molesters" while we do business with them, at the same time.

These hot air faggots wont do anything.. most can only spew stupid bullshit
from their computer chair .

There is a huge support for Maxhardcore on this site if that says where some of these dicksucks stand.