undeniable PROOF of Obama considering slavery reparations

[AmateurFlix]

from: http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-...rce-r85048.htm

Prior to his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004 Obama opposed reparations for slavery. After his election, Obama subtly changed his view, stating he was against "just signing over checks to African-Americans," leaving open the possibility of other forms of reparations would be acceptable to him (Chicago Tribune 11/14/2004).

Now why on earth would someone take an absolute stance against something, only to later use a conditional statement regarding the same topic?

[Snake Doctor]

*yawn*
http://my.barackobama.com/page/conte...thesmearshome/

[kenny]

I think all former slaves deserve compensation from the government.

However, I was under the impression that slavery was abolished like 150 years ago and there is no longer any slaves alive.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by kenny

I think all former slaves deserve compensation from the government.

However, I was under the impression that slavery was abolished like 150 years ago and there is no longer any slaves alive.

Anyone carrying a large balance on a credit card is a modern day slave.

[Rochard]

I fail to understand why anyone thinks we should pay reparations for slavery. While this ranks up there in the top of five of the worst things mankind has ever done, the United States should not be singled out as if we created it or thought of the idea. This was a world wide problem, and the United States went to war with itself to end it.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by kenny

I think all former slaves deserve compensation from the government.

However, I was under the impression that slavery was abolished like 150 years ago and there is no longer any slaves alive.

Nope they still are. Oh wait. your right. So do they children and grand children have a right to get paid for it??? No, I dont think so. As I recall, Lincoln told the slaves as they were freed, that they could go back to Africa, and the US would pay for it. If they chose to stay, well...

[Fetish Gimp]

Aw Mah Gawd Obama Wins Da Darkies Are Gunna Kills Us Crackars Gonna Be The Afrocalypse Foh Sho

[Snake Doctor]

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

Here is the article from the Chicago Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,5997110.story

Here is the exact quote from that article, with the full paragraph.

Asked in Moline about a controversial demand by some blacks for reparations for slavery, Obama spoke about how slavery had left a stain on the country that has yet to be eradicated. Still, he said, he opposes "just signing checks over to African-Americans."

Nowhere in that article does it say that other forms of reparation would be acceptable to him. This is quite a reach, even for an internet rumor.

[CE_Rashaan]

You're just as retarded as the author of the article you posted....

Seeing as how the author can?t even spell the word "President" there was no reason to continue reading past the first two paragraphs.


Title of article below-

A Presidet Barack Obama would force American taxpayers to compensate "victims of slavery"

[Snake Doctor]

When John Kerry was done shooting himself in Vietnam so he could win 3 purple hearts, he went to South Carolina where he fathered John McCain's illegitimate black baby. This baby grew up to be a secret Muslim named Barack Obama.


I know this is true because I read it on the internets.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why anyone thinks we should pay reparations for slavery. While this ranks up there in the top of five of the worst things mankind has ever done, the United States should not be singled out as if we created it or thought of the idea. This was a world wide problem, and the United States went to war with itself to end it.

I don't think that the USA is being singled out other than by themselves. If anyone is going to address the slavery issue, they should lump in the Native American issue as well and sort it all out at the same time.

Personally I think its nonsense to try and make reparations for something you personally had nothing to do with and can not directly apologize to the people it happened to.

Reparations should be giving the people affected the same opportunities everyone else in the country has. Thats worth a hell of a lot more than some token apology or a few bucks in the bank.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Reparations should be giving the people affected the same opportunities everyone else in the country has. Thats worth a hell of a lot more than some token apology or a few bucks in the bank.

How do they not have the " same opportunities everyone else in the country has "??? Did they not allow them into the same schools as everyone else? Do they not have a law in place that makes sure they get jobs, qualified or not?

Well fuck it. Let me just sign half the money I earn over the the family that MIGHT be relatives to someone who was a slave.

[MediaGuy]

So you mean he's going to give Will Smith 40 acres and a mule? Do you think Smith will keep 'em?

[Jace]

i pay my slaves well, they said they won't need any reparations

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why anyone thinks we should pay reparations for slavery. While this ranks up there in the top of five of the worst things mankind has ever done, the United States should not be singled out as if we created it or thought of the idea. This was a world wide problem, and the United States went to war with itself to end it.

Thank you. Also, black people were not the only ones kept as slaves. White people of various native countries, particularly Ireland, were kept as slaves right here in the USA and in the west Indies. I'm Irish, so does that mean I get reparations too? Of course not, and I wouldn't expect it.

[Tom_PM]

Was pretty common in ye olden days to take an area by force, sell off any saleable prisoners and a life of slavery was what they got. Race was never a factor, it was pure treasure and labor forces all through history. Conquered people were sold and traded to others. Pretty unreal to imagine that world from today's perspective.

I think for any such person, all that you want is to be able to live and make your own decisions about your life just like any other person. To start out on the same playing field that everyone else has. From there, life is just what you make it.

[CUTTER]

THAT IS NOTHING!!

I saw an article about Baracks Ubama that says if he becomes Presidet he wants to ENSLAVE all the white people.

I believe it too!

[kenny]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Anyone carrying a large balance on a credit card is a modern day slave.

Take it a step further.

The entire public is enslaved by interest charged by the FED

[DaddyHalbucks]

Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks - and Racist Too

By David Horowitz

FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, January 03, 2001


One



There Is No Single Group Clearly Responsible For The Crime Of Slavery



Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of African-Americans. There were 3,000 black slave-owners in the ante-bellum United States. Are reparations to be paid by their descendants too?



Two



There Is No One Group That Benefited Exclusively From Its Fruits



The claim for reparations is premised on the false assumption that only whites have benefited from slavery. If slave labor created wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for black Americans as well, including the descendants of slaves. The GNP of black America is so large that it makes the African-American community the 10th most prosperous "nation" in the world. American blacks on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of twenty to fifty times that of blacks living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped.



Three



Only A Tiny Minority Of White Americans Ever Owned Slaves, And Others Gave Their Lives To Free Them

Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned slaves. This is true even for those who lived in the ante-bellum South where only one white in five was a slaveholder. Why should their descendants owe a debt? What about the descendants of the 350,000 Union soldiers who died to free the slaves? They gave their lives. What possible moral principle would ask them to pay (through their descendants) again?



Four



America Today Is A Multi-Ethnic Nation and Most Americans Have No Connection (Direct Or Indirect) To Slavery



The two great waves of American immigration occurred after 1880 and then after 1960. What rationale would require Vietnamese boat people, Russian refuseniks, Iranian refugees, and Armenian victims of the Turkish persecution, Jews, Mexicans Greeks, or Polish, Hungarian, Cambodian and Korean victims of Communism, to pay reparations to American blacks?



Five



The Historical Precedents Used To Justify The Reparations Claim Do Not Apply, And The Claim Itself Is Based On Race Not Injury



The historical precedents generally invoked to justify the reparations claim are payments to Jewish survivors of the Holocaust, Japanese-Americans and African- American victims of racial experiments in Tuskegee, or racial outrages in Rosewood and Oklahoma City. But in each case, the recipients of reparations were the direct victims of the injustice or their immediate families. This would be the only case of reparations to people who were not immediately affected and whose sole qualification to receive reparations would be racial. As has already been pointed out, during the slavery era, many blacks were free men or slave-owners themselves, yet the reparations claimants make no distinction between the roles blacks actually played in the injustice itself. Randall Robinson's book on reparations, The Debt, which is the manifesto of the reparations movement is pointedly sub-titled "What America Owes To Blacks." If this is not racism, what is?



Six



The Reparations Argument Is Based On The Unfounded Claim That All African-American Descendants of Slaves Suffer From The Economic Consequences Of Slavery And Discrimination



No evidence-based attempt has been made to prove that living individuals have been adversely affected by a slave system that was ended over 150 years ago. But there is plenty of evidence the hardships that occurred were hardships that individuals could and did overcome. The black middle-class in America is a prosperous community that is now larger in absolute terms than the black underclass. Does its existence not suggest that economic adversity is the result of failures of individual character rather than the lingering after-effects of racial discrimination and a slave system that ceased to exist well over a century ago? West Indian blacks in America are also descended from slaves but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of whites ( and nearly 25% higher than the average incomes of American born blacks). How is it that slavery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other? How can government be expected to decide an issue that is so subjective - and yet so critical - to the case?



Seven



The Reparations Claim Is One More Attempt To Turn African-Americans Into Victims. It Sends A Damaging Message To The African-American Community.



The renewed sense of grievance -- which is what the claim for reparations will inevitably create -- is neither a constructive nor a helpful message for black leaders to be sending to their communities and to others. To focus the social passions of African-Americans on what some Americans may have done to their ancestors fifty or a hundred and fifty years ago is to burden them with a crippling sense of victim-hood. How are the millions of refugees from tyranny and genocide who are now living in America going to receive these claims, moreover, except as demands for special treatment, an extravagant new handout that is only necessary because some blacks can't seem to locate the ladder of opportunity within reach of others -- many less privileged than themselves?



Eight



Reparations To African Americans Have Already Been Paid



Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the Great Society in 1965, trillions of dollars in transfer payments have been made to African-Americans in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements and educational admissions) - all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances. It is said that reparations are necessary to achieve a healing between African-Americans and other Americans. If trillion dollar restitutions and a wholesale rewriting of American law (in order to accommodate racial preferences) for African-Americans is not enough to achieve a "healing," what will?



Nine



What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?



Slavery existed for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade was born, and in all societies. But in the thousand years of its existence, there never was an anti-slavery movement until white Christians - Englishmen and Americans -- created one. If not for the anti-slavery attitudes and military power of white Englishmen and Americans, the slave trade would not have been brought to an end. If not for the sacrifices of white soldiers and a white American president who gave his life to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, blacks in America would still be slaves. If not for the dedication of Americans of all ethnicities and colors to a society based on the principle that all men are created equal, blacks in America would not enjoy the highest standard of living of blacks anywhere in the world, and indeed one of the highest standards of living of any people in the world. They would not enjoy the greatest freedoms and the most thoroughly protected individual rights anywhere. Where is the gratitude of black America and its leaders for those gifts?



Ten



The Reparations Claim Is A Separatist Idea That Sets African-Americans Against The Nation That Gave Them Freedom



Blacks were here before the Mayflower. Who is more American than the descendants of African slaves? For the African-American community to isolate itself even further from America is to embark on a course whose implications are troubling. Yet the African-American community has had a long-running flirtation with separatists, nationalists and the political left, who want African-Americans to be no part of America's social contract. African Americans should reject this temptation.



For all America's faults, African-Americans have an enormous stake in their country and its heritage. It is this heritage that is really under attack by the reparations movement. The reparations claim is one more assault on America, conducted by racial separatists and the political left. It is an attack not only on white Americans, but on all Americans -- especially African-Americans.



America's African-American citizens are the richest and most privileged black people alive -- a bounty that is a direct result of the heritage that is under assault. The American idea needs the support of its African-American citizens. But African-Americans also need the support of the American idea. For it is this idea that led to the principles and institutions that have set African-Americans - and all of us -- free.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Rea...B-14831CCB4107

[G-Rotica]

The only true African-American is the fucker that just got off the boat, and did the citizenship thing. If you were born here, you are not an African-American or a Mexican-American, or any other kind of hyphenated American. You are American, that simple.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

from: http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-...rce-r85048.htm



Now why on earth would someone take an absolute stance against something, only to later use a conditional statement regarding the same topic?

why would he say he will meet with the worlds worst leaders without pre-conditions, then when he gets called on it, start establishing conditions?

[2012]

[DaddyHalbucks]

Slave Reparations is a typical liberal initiative, with deep flaws.

[Azlord]

[Voodoo]

We're all slaves.

[theking]

Originally Posted by MediaGuy

So you mean he's going to give Will Smith 40 acres and a mule? Do you think Smith will keep 'em?

I think that is what they were promised (it may not be true) when they were freed and if that is the case I say...what the hell give it to those that can prove they are decendents of slaves. There is alot of desert land that the U.S. can do without...I think.

[V_RocKs]

We have programs in place where ignorant fucks get jobs and schooling.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

from: http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-...rce-r85048.htm



Now why on earth would someone take an absolute stance against something, only to later use a conditional statement regarding the same topic?

Jesus... how about this video?

[2012]

Originally Posted by Nick Decker

Jesus... how about this video?

DISTURBING

[Rique]

Payback's a BITCH! Bring it! LOL

[The Judge]

Praise Allah

[The Judge]

Poor McCain was tortured by the Vietnamese, they injected him with Chinese made neuro toxins and now it shows. What a tragedy.

Originally Posted by Nick Decker

Jesus... how about this video?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

from: http://www.pr-inside.com/a-presidet-...rce-r85048.htm

Now why on earth would someone take an absolute stance against something, only to later use a conditional statement regarding the same topic?

I think reparations are a GREAT idea... lets see here.... the nations capital is a crime ridden slum as most major urban city centers etc... I think we should receive reparations for that.

[Mutt]

well duh-uhhhhhhhhhhhh - Obama is a Muslim, it's kind of obvious that he is a puppet of Al Qaeda with that terrorist fist bump thing he does with his wife, intent on creating a race war in the United States between blacks and whites to destabilize the country making it ripe for an attack by his Muslim extremist masters.

[AmateurFlix]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

*yawn*

wake up then

[Catalyst]

true.. and it is a really fucked system

Originally Posted by kenny

Take it a step further.

The entire public is enslaved by interest charged by the FED

[James124]

As soon as people support either Dems or Republicans and think it actually matters - they become slaves, caught in the frame. How about dealing with the current slavery - the moneymasters that keep the general public as their slaves. To think it matters to be a Dem. or Repl. and to be discussing issues like this one(slave reparations) is simply idiotic, and just what your masters really want.

[Matt 26z]

How is the slavary reparations issue in other countries? Do the blacks throughout Europe demand a million bucks?

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Mutt

well duh-uhhhhhhhhhhhh - Obama is a Muslim, it's kind of obvious that he is a puppet of Al Qaeda with that terrorist fist bump thing he does with his wife, intent on creating a race war in the United States between blacks and whites to destabilize the country making it ripe for an attack by his Muslim extremist masters.

What's funny and sad about what you wrote is that a certain number of Republican hicks out in the cornfields really do believe that Obama is secretly working for Muslim extremists.

Neo-con's talk about this at FreeRepublic, and the stuff they write is downright crazy. A US president actually being a mole for a Muslim extremist group would have to be considered the biggest scandal in the entire history of mankind. It's just not realistic enough to even consider it possible.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I fail to understand why anyone thinks we should pay reparations for slavery. While this ranks up there in the top of five of the worst things mankind has ever done, the United States should not be singled out as if we created it or thought of the idea. This was a world wide problem, and the United States went to war with itself to end it.

I'm curious what the other 4 are.

[payd2purv]

Every nationality has had slaves or has been a slave at one point.

History has shown blacks had slaves!

so fuck em. FUCK EM! FUCK THEM! YOU HEAR ME?! FUCK YOU!

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by kenny

I think all former slaves deserve compensation from the government.

- I was under the impression they had already passed away. So you want the gov to pay their grandchildren?
- Why should the current generation pay for something some of their forefathers did?
- Do you think all slaves should be compensated? or just the black ones? You are aware of the fact that 50+% of all slaves in North America were white, right?
- An Irish slave was worth less than a black slave (cuz they would be literally worked to death). so would an Irish slave deserve a bigger compensation than a black slave cuz he suffered more?
- Does a slave who had to work in his master's house deserve less compensation than a slave who had to work picking cotton?
- How do you determine the different degrees of suffering and the appropriate amount to compensate.......?
- Who should pay compensation? The black tribesmen who sold their prisoners of war into slavery? The arabs who raided black villages? The slave owners in the US? Only the white slave owners or also the black slave owners?
- How far do you go back in history? The Greeks had slaves, the Romans had slaves,... Should Italy compensate France, Spain, Belgium, Greece, Israel,... for what happened in imperial Rome?
- Should Spain, France, Portugal, itally,... demand compensations from Morocco, Algeria,... because of what the Barbary pirates did?
- Why stop at slavery?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by payd2purv

Every nationality has had slaves or has been a slave at one point.

this is the first thing you posted on gfy that actually made sense.

[kenny]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

- I was under the impression they had already passed away. So you want the gov to pay their grandchildren?
- Why should the current generation pay for something some of their forefathers did?
- Do you think all slaves should be compensated? or just the black ones? You are aware of the fact that 50+% of all slaves in North America were white, right?
- An Irish slave was worth less than a black slave (cuz they would be literally worked to death). so would an Irish slave deserve a bigger compensation than a black slave cuz he suffered more?
- Does a slave who had to work in his master's house deserve less compensation than a slave who had to work picking cotton?
- How do you determine the different degrees of suffering and the appropriate amount to compensate.......?
- Who should pay compensation? The black tribesmen who sold their prisoners of war into slavery? The arabs who raided black villages? The slave owners in the US? Only the white slave owners or also the black slave owners?
- How far do you go back in history? The Greeks had slaves, the Romans had slaves,... Should Italy compensate France, Spain, Belgium, Greece, Israel,... for what happened in imperial Rome?
- Should Spain, France, Portugal, itally,... demand compensations from Morocco, Algeria,... because of what the Barbary pirates did?
- Why stop at slavery?

Did you not read my entire post?

[sacX]

Out of interest has the Federal Government every officially apologized for slavery?

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by kenny

Did you not read my entire post?

wasn't addressing you personally. just used part of your post to question the idea of compensations. should have made that clear, my mistake

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

Here is the article from the Chicago Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,5997110.story

Here is the exact quote from that article, with the full paragraph.

Asked in Moline about a controversial demand by some blacks for reparations for slavery, Obama spoke about how slavery had left a stain on the country that has yet to be eradicated. Still, he said, he opposes "just signing checks over to African-Americans."

Nowhere in that article does it say that other forms of reparation would be acceptable to him. This is quite a reach, even for an internet rumor.

Thanks

[nation-x]

ooohhh... the ignorance...

[Tat2Jr]

Originally Posted by nation-x

ooohhh... the ignorance...

I hear that. Was going to respond, but why bother?!

[sumphatpimp]

I think the Blacks should sign over checks to the Whites since they have been such a pain in the ass all these years.
Abe Lincoln freed you! now fucking leave!