Honestly, why not more programs join services of things like Removeyourcontent.com?

[scottybuzz]

Im seriously baffled why more proggys don't join services like removeyourcontent.com, for example im always on free porn boards downloading videos.
When Melissa Midwest joined up, I have yet to find a working video of her on rapidshare, which is pretty incredible as I am a member of 5+ boards with stolen content on and not one has working rapidshare links of melissa midwest.
Its cheap as fuck considering there is limited free content from your files and affiliates are likley to see an improvment in conversions, why just not try it out? Let someone else deal with all the shit of finding your content who will actually enjoy it?



p.s. this isn't spam, don't even know the guy that runs that site

[Pipecrew]

because people would rather complain about the problem then using a service that will take care of 90% of it for you.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

because people would rather complain about the problem then using a service that will take care of 90% of it for you.

Typical human behavior

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

because people would rather complain about the problem then using a service that will take care of 90% of it for you.

*sigh* I have noticed a lot of the Bangbros content has gone which is nice to see

[Sebastian Sands]

I got an email from them through our support system earlier. Found that a bit strange as my contact info is pretty much everywhere. What do they charge?

[ladida]

I guess not many of you have heard of crypt type programs for rapidshare?

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by ladida

I guess not many of you have heard of crypt type programs for rapidshare?

Stop having a defeatest attitude. make the theives evolve because of the stuff like remove your content does, then find ways to target their new plans.

I can gaurentee you there is a way.

Or I could take your attitude of saying, lay down and take it in the ass.

To sebastian - price ranges around $300 for a standard package, Im pretty sure you would make more

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by ladida

I guess not many of you have heard of crypt type programs for rapidshare?

Still, if you can get rid of even 25% of your content being used illegally, it's a win. Most of the tube sites that are getting serious traffic will remove it with proper notice.

If you have content that is unique to your site (such as a solo girl or odd reality site), I think you'd be crazy not to use a service like that who will hit these guys up with takedown notices nonstop.

[ladida]

You're missing the point. I am all for your solutions, but this one doesn't seem like one. You would be paying for something that does nothing in reality, just smoke and mirrors.

1. Alot of the sites moved to crypted rapidshare links. They can do nothing about this. Not even rapidshare can remove the content if you give them those links, as it has nothing to remove.
2. Their dmca's to illegal tube sites will in most cases get the reported video removed, only to be reposted few minutes later under a different user, and in worst cases, they won't even repond
3. They can't do anything about torrents for the same reason as noone can, and even if they could, again, the said torrent would get removed, and another one under another name pops.

I'm sorry, i just dont see it as a solution. Just more money spent. Okay, it doesn't seem like too expensive service, i give them that, but it doesn't seem like a solution to me.

[jact]

I'd never even heard of it, bookmarking it for later reference.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by ladida

You're missing the point. I am all for your solutions, but this one doesn't seem like one. You would be paying for something that does nothing in reality, just smoke and mirrors.

1. Alot of the sites moved to crypted rapidshare links. They can do nothing about this. Not even rapidshare can remove the content if you give them those links, as it has nothing to remove.
2. Their dmca's to illegal tube sites will in most cases get the reported video removed, only to be reposted few minutes later under a different user, and in worst cases, they won't even repond
3. They can't do anything about torrents for the same reason as noone can, and even if they could, again, the said torrent would get removed, and another one under another name pops.

I'm sorry, i just dont see it as a solution. Just more money spent. Okay, it doesn't seem like too expensive service, i give them that, but it doesn't seem like a solution to me.

Well I am not going to argue on the technical side of things as you seem to know what your talking about, but like I said in my results, I have not found a working video of Melissa Midwest since she joined this service, when there used to be hundreds. Heck I think pornbb.org won't even let you search for her name.

Surely thats not a coincedence and that noone has uploaded any of her videos since she joined that service

Wasted money? I bet shes thinking what a sound investment $300+ per month is for all those extra signups. To her I bet its a solution. She reads this board, maybe she will give some input.

[Penny24Seven]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Wasted money? I bet shes thinking what a sound investment $300+ per month is for all those extra signups. .

I really doubt she would say something like that. Think about what you are saying. People are looking for her content for free and since they do not find it they go and join her site?

Or 100 people see it and 1 says damn she is hot I want to join her site and they go join.

so it is worth all your content being out there for free to get a couple sign ups? I do not think so. The ones that do will not care. But gaining members , well I think you have it backwards

[FelixFlow]

• the "crypt" links are usually bullshit, pretty easy to find the actual RS links from that
  
• anyone saying its 'not worth it' probably doesnt run a site that anyone wants content of, or isnt aware of the realities of content theft
  
• having the 'oh well' attitude is lame, so what if torrents are hard to get down, you're gonna let your whole website's content be shared all over the 'net just cause you're too lazy to enforce your intellectual property rights??
  
• were any of you the type to let bullies pick on you in school or take your lunch money, or did you stand up for yourself? if someone posts up your vid on a tube site, and it goes back up, you dont throw your hands up and say you lose - you fucking take it back down. and again & again & again until one of you gives up
  
• any of you that don't want to protect your intellectual property, please drop me an email so that i can have all of your member content & put it up for sale, since you obviously dont care what happens with it outside of your members areas (joking, but thats what these guys are doing in a sense)

[spazlabz]

Royal Cash uses removeyourcontent and they are doing a great job. There's no way they can possibly catch every single thing, but they do manage to identify and get removed quite a bit of content.


spaz

[Big Red Machine]

Do you have contact info for them?
nevermind
Eric, owner
Icq: 390608617
webmaster At removeyourcontent.com

Holly, managing partner
Icq: 454280886
piracy At removeyourcontent.com

Dean, copyright agent
Icq: 42199041 ryc.dean At hotmail.com

[Big Red Machine]

I will be hitting them up

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Brian837

I really doubt she would say something like that. Think about what you are saying.

i don't mean to be rude here, but use logic, if you think it wasn't working, do you think she and others would still be paying??

People are looking for her content for free and since they do not find it they go and join her site?

Your damn right they would. Doesnt that make sense to you?(content being full videos in this case)

Or 100 people see it and 1 says damn she is hot I want to join her site and they go join.

Her content is out there already, you are forgetting the hundreds of tgps, fhg's, blogs etc.
The forums full of her content is getting her no signups. Maybe a tube site might with 1 of her videos and thus people pay to want more. Yet you go in a thread full of all her episodes ripped from 2006-2008 full site rip, do you think they will pay? I bet you would not even get a ratio of 1:100,000.

It may have worked for others branding with p2p, but you are forgetting often you could only find 1 episode of a site or 2 or 3 at best. It was hard to update via p2p and thus signups improved through branding. Join pornbb.org and look at the mega threads of 10 videos or more. Its just like a members area.

Hey at least thats my opinion.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

• the "crypt" links are usually bullshit, pretty easy to find the actual RS links from that

You obviously dont know what i'm talking about then.

• having the 'oh well' attitude is lame, so what if torrents are hard to get down, you're gonna let your whole website's content be shared all over the 'net just cause you're too lazy to enforce your intellectual property rights??

if you think something like this stops it, okay. Im not gona argue with you about it. Why'd you leave strongbox?

• you fucking take it back down. and again & again & again until one of you gives up

In this case, 99% of the time you will be the first guy to give up, since there is 100 of them and all they do all day long is find ways to fuck you over, while you have members to please

[Agent 488]

i assume because most of the big companies are behind the huge stolen content tube, torrent, boards and blogs ...

and that for every sale lost they are trying making it back with dating, cam and ppc ...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by ladida

I'm sorry, i just dont see it as a solution. Just more money spent. Okay, it doesn't seem like too expensive service, i give them that, but it doesn't seem like a solution to me.

Yeah. I am sure pounding your chest, crying on the boards, and making big threats about what all your big budget lawyers are going to do to people is a much better solution.

**rolls eyes**

[After Shock Media]

Ok my thoughts, like they have an impact.

With my own personal sites I have been able to stay on top of it fairly well myself so I have not had the need just yet. One issue about the whole thing just sort of sits in a small region of the back of my brain in regards to it though. In a small way it almost feels like a small shake down or a protection fee from the big bad thieves. Not saying it is, just bugs me and that is all. Specially when you know how close and connected so many are in this business.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Yeah. I am sure pounding your chest, crying on the boards, and making big threats about what all your big budget lawyers are going to do to people is a much better solution.

**rolls eyes**

I do that? Or have i ever suggested something like that? If not, why are you quoting me?

[Penny24Seven]

and i'm not talking it down. I pay my little brother (who is over 18) to do it for me at the moment. He logs his time spent and uses the rules I set for him. I since have him doing it for one other program. Good money for a kid just out of school that can work his own hours.

[stickyfingerz]

Needs to be stopped BEFORE its out in the wild. Otherwise you are herding cats. THAT is (as I've said about 400 times now) where the focus should be. The whole paysite model as it is currently maintained is flawed, and has been from its inception due to poor technology back when paysites were born. *shrugs*

[mrwilson]

Everything they offer i can do..
It just takes up alot of time.

I'm available for hire for such a service actually - 1 month - 1 program or even available full time if the price is right

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Brian837

and i'm not talking it down. I pay my little brother (who is over 18) to do it for me at the moment. He logs his time spent and uses the rules I set for him. I since have him doing it for one other program. Good money for a kid just out of school that can work his own hours.

What are you on about? first of all you say its a bad idea and here you are paying someone to do it for you.

people on gfy are so damn confusing.

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Needs to be stopped BEFORE its out in the wild. Otherwise you are herding cats. THAT is (as I've said about 400 times now) where the focus should be. The whole paysite model as it is currently maintained is flawed, and has been from its inception due to poor technology back when paysites were born. *shrugs*

But Melissa Midwests content was out in the wild. It was everywhere, and shock horror, now its not.

http://www.pornotube.com/search.php?q=melissa+midwest - not one video




Now to me, that makes your argument of hearding cats redundant, period. It can be done - proof two major sources of stolen content with not one video on. I understand what your saying, but ordinary surfers don't like their members area being fucked with, you will see more cancels.

(please dont change the focus of this thread into something thats 5 pages long of stickyfingerz arguments, because thats been done 400 times before)

[fris]

they do good work, remove thousands of links daily

[Antonio]

burp .

[B2BwithJoeD]

This was a big discussion on many boards in March - a summary and lots of information here: Fighting Piracy

[pornguy]

WOnder what the ROI on that really is.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

I believe this issue is still very, very underestimated, and I would also dare to claim that the popular opinion that the "customer goes for the quality" is very, very short sighted.

The nature of viral marketing, with a product that has a massive appeal to almost every single male on the planet should be enough for anyone to realize the popularity of these sites is exponentially growing.

I have a couple suggestions that could help to solve the problem and that are probably at the edge of legality, I can hardly imagine how someone profiting from copyright infridgement is making claims though.

[Mefo]

They do a great job and they have removed tons of our content so far. Definetly worth the money

[tranza]

Originally Posted by Fris

they do good work, remove thousands of links daily

That's really true!

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Mefo

They do a great job and they have removed tons of our content so far. Definetly worth the money

Ill take this as yet further proof.

So come on programs, whats around $300 bucks to your program? Hardly nothing i imagine for some of you. Lets see conversions lower just a tiny bit.

[mikesinner]

there are lots of little things sponsors could do like offering an incentive for their affiliates who report stolen content when they see it.

[tony286]

Im signing up with them as we speak.Eric seems like a really cool guy.

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

because people would rather complain about the problem then using a service that will take care of 90% of it for you.

A reason for that might be that they feel that they shouldn't be having their content stolen in the first place.

[thebossxxx]

how do they charge and how do they show you results?

can you tell them what sites are posting your content!

Glenn

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by thebossxxx

how do they charge and how do they show you results?

can you tell them what sites are posting your content!

Glenn

they charge per site (group of sites) and they are super easy to work with on that they send you a link to where your report is and the information is there.


spaz

[Mefo]

Originally Posted by thebossxxx

how do they charge and how do they show you results?

can you tell them what sites are posting your content!

Glenn

yup you can also point them to website and they'll take care of them. They'll also send you reports of what they removed.