I am very comfortable with my trades right now - and all my trades know I trade with SexOcean - this site is always in my top 30 sites :1orglaugh

Cool - maybe you'll be sitting next to some of the guys whose sites you rape for links. Then you can buy a round of drinks and thank them for all the work they do in reviewing for you.

coward - tell us who you are?

150K/day site :1orglaugh

I had a trade with sexocean and his traffic was descent with no unusual patterns in proxy and click patterns. (and I watched the trade very closely) I added some extra stuff to avoid me sending out crap traffic to trades and his productivity dropped to basicly 0% including traffic to galleries. So the trade died (dropped from mayby 150-200% to 20-30%)
After a few weeks I tried to signup on his site and the stats looked like this:
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/10)] hit:140 uniq:135 clck:21 ret:149 prod:0.15 eff:0.14
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/11)] hit:5 uniq:5 clck:0 ret:0 prod:0.00 eff:0.00
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/13)] hit:3 uniq:3 clck:0 ret:0 prod:0.00 eff:0.00
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/14)] hit:5 uniq:5 clck:0 ret:0 prod:0.00 eff:0.00
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/15)] hit:4 uniq:4 clck:0 ret:0 prod:0.00 eff:0.00
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/15)] hit:4 uniq:4 clck:0 ret:0 prod:0.00 eff:0.00
TM3 trade info:[sexocean.com (10/16)] hit:131 uniq:131 clck:2 ret:0 prod:0.01 eff:0.00
If he is cheating or not can't say since his click patterns etc looks normal (if I disable my "no crap out" addon)

Sleazy, if SexOcean bugs you, just click his links - and contact the guys you know who happen to trade with him. Maybe they haven't even looked at his site. I have seen them sign up for clean trades, and add shit in later - shit that other trades claim they never see. He must be doing some redirecting using SSI, htaccesss, or editing the httpd.conf files.

what's the URL or are you too afraid to tell us?

too many popups, dialers, home page redirects, etc to do that.

I am not looking for publicity and I have no time for stupid discussions, - if you will have real proof regarding SExOcean - post it and I will be first who drop this trade - it low quality anyway :)

coward

:( :)

You people all have way to much time on your hands :winkwink:

TGP traffic goes down on Saturday and Sunday. Its as regular and expected as the rise of the sun each day. Its been that way for years. 15%, 20% you bet its down over the weekend. Does that mean Sex Ocean is a hitbotter?, no, not at all. He might be boosting his traffic over the weekend, 404's, bigger trades with his affiliated sites, traffic purchases, dont know.

I dont like the concept of these new TGP's, so I dont trade with them.


shemp

I'm gona clarify this a little - please feel free to disagree with me.

Does no traffic flucation or little traffic flucation on weekends mean someone's a hitbotter?
- Shemp's right - it doesn't mean he's a hitbotter. There are numberous VALID reasons why one's traffic might not go down on the weekend.

But before we go any further - ask yourself this. Are these other possible reasons LIKELY?

To answer that I say look at the character of the person who runs the site before you jump to assumptions. Do they have childporn galleries or popups on the site? Rape, beastilaity? Other really weird shit? Are there dialer popups all over the place? Do you get hit with consoles and popups when you surf the site's galleries? Are the galleries stolen from another site? (note that they may be borrowed with permission too). Is the 'who is' name and address information accurate or fake? How long has the site been around?

If the traffic flucations look suspect and these other things all seem fishy there is a VERY VERY HIGH CHANCE that the traffic is fake as well.

I believe that if something looks too good to be true it probally is.

that's my 2 cents worth.

I own sexocean with sasush and we hit bot all day :)

20 sales daily baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :moon

In other news:

There should be more proof if someone cheats...

Anyone can make up a story....

Sorry Gotys cant agree on this one with you.

use your fuckin brain sometime moron.

Now THIS is a good post AND explanation.

i'm positive sexocean is a hitbotter. i've caught him hitbotting my tgp back when i used to trade traffic. its guys like that hitbotting that made me not trade traffic anymore. but now that i dont trade traffic i dont care who hitbots and who doesnt, im sure most of the people on this board could care a less if sexocean hitbots.

What a thread....reminds me of the reason i don't list one of my sites on sextracker....to much shit to deal with, and your guilty automatically if you have some decent traffic.

Especially, if your in the top 10 right off the bat when you list. "Whoa, where did that site come from?" Ego's are crushed, thus starting the rumors. "Must be cheater!" But yet, no one see's the past 1-2 years of work that came to build it up..growing the traffic and coming in from behind the scenes.

There are a few sites that are huge that don't list on sextracker that like playing it low key. I remember Elephant List being one of them. Not sure exactly what his traffic is like these days though.

anyway, just a thought...carry on..

elephant list is still over 600K/day uniques - but most of us doing large traffic know about sites that dont' use public coutners like elephant list, snakesworlds and hardcore Junky for a few examples off the top of my head.. If they slapped counters up tomorrow noone would question the traffic. The thing that bugs me is some of the trades these new supposed guys say they have - look at starTGP for example - some of what he says are his largest trades are sending VERY VERY little hits to the people on his list - spots like that should send out a lot more traffic. so why the high ranking? If you use your BRAIN it just doesn't make sense and you're left questoning it? It doesn't add up.

Sextracker isn't everything - look into the details and make an INFORMED decision for yourself.

Elephant list for example has LARGE trades with estabilished sites and has had those trades for YEARS. The site is over 4 years old and if you check the webarchive you'll see he was in business many years ago doing daly updates - some of these sites in question didn't exist LAST YEAR yet alone years ago and CLAIM to have 400K/day......................

100

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

ok, you want a solid explination why i think sexocean is a hitbotter?

Here it is: Because he is one. His site is 3 months old (maybe 4, who cares). Hey may fed traffic to it from some sites - like warez.. i dunno. Today he has quiete large number of pageviews, simpply becayse he trades with big guys. I remember him trading with JJJ for example. The guy has skills .... skills of making friends and establishing new trades. So now, in the ocean of hitbot traffic he sends you, there is still some percentage of legitimate traffic from his trades. That is why his prod is so low because the percentage of the real traffic versus hitbot crap is so low.

The reason i even started this thread was to hopefully open eyes of the dumb asses that trade with him and drop his trade. If you trade more than 10k with him, you may contact me on ICQ and I will replace his spot on your site. In fact, i will become your #1 trade , but you have to drop his trade.

Conclusion: SexOcean uses hitbots - because a) He is russian, B) russians cheat, always cheated and always will cheat C) HE CHEATS

so fucking open your eyes and stop feeing him with your real traffic, you will only get crap back.

For those of you who posted here to attact my "ego", i am very sorry, but it is very hard to do so. If your mom ,dad, sister, brother, uncle , aunt, daughter and all your friends and you, worked 24/7/365 , in a year, you'd accomplish a small fraction of what i accomplish in one month. You can never hurt my ego, nor you can possibly find words that would upset me, or hurt me in anyway. All you have done in this thread was make me laugh. Thank you.

The ones that actually posted normal messages here, people that showed some stats and gave thoughts, i have them on my list of "people", the rest of you are on my list of "ignorant stupid fucks". I will never do bussiness with you, not like you'd want to anyway :) With someone who makes $3/day and uses hitbots, right? :)

:glugglug ooh, it's so good to be on the top :321GFY

and yes,i misspelled fuckload of words here, i got some beers tonight :) I know how to spell when i sober :) :glugglug

I agree that sexocean hitbots...
Its just too obvious, but I disagree with the fact that you cant make a BIG site in a couple of months.

If you feed it enough traffic then you can make a 300K+ site in one more... I know of 2 people who have done that (not on sextracker).

But hey what do I know?