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Originally posted by 12clicks

well, that pretty much settles it. this chick has 5 members or less.
you should teach ccbill a lesson and take your business elsewhere. I'm sure it would kill them.:1orglaugh

I'm not sure which, "chick" you mean as several of us have posted the same complaint so I will answer on behalf of myself and only myself... It doesnt matter if someone has 5 members or 5000 members. CCBill is out of line when they issue free memberships.

Please, give me a complete listing of your sites so I know who doesnt mind giving his content and bandwidth away for free. While you are at it, whats your longest membership? That way I can tell them how long they have before they should call CCBill for a full refund. If you only offer the one month mmbership I'll be sure to inform them its OK to call on the 28th day, does that sound about right? I'll even set up a direct link to your join page.:321GFY

As far as CCBill is concerned, I most definately did take my business elsewhere.

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Originally posted by DjSap

You do know that cvv2's aren't that hard to get? If you steal the credit card #s from an online store then you are most likely to get the cvv2's also. Most people who chargeback porn have had their cc # stolen from an online store where they made a purchase...since more stores now require cvv2's the more carders are getting the cvv2's when they steal their db.

Cvv2's are just as much proof as the cc # itself. If you would start to require pin # on the web then most carders would get them also and it wouldn't be much proof.

But if the banks made everyone who wanted to charge back and who had used a CVV2 report there card stolen then chargebacks would definatley drop as the hassle factor has just gone way up.

Noone is going to chargeback every month if it means they wait 2 weeks out of 4 for a new card.

To corvett and other billing related people - why to do not try to develop some kind of on-line signature suitable for common use??? I understand that it's not that easy, but it would solve the fake chargebacks problem almost completelly.

Regretably I can't figure out what it could be... Obvious way is to make some kind of authorisation server, where user have to register first, proove in some way that he really is who he claims to be, then get some unique digital signature. Later he will be able to use it for all on-line payments. But this is, indeed, too complicated way for most of ordinary users and most likely it won't be popular (also some privacy questions may arise).

Just a thought poped up after I saw this news:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm...atestheadlines

Do not beat me hard :)

Thanks for the info Phx

sounds easier than having them all come down to the CCBill building and sign a form...

I will pass it on

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Originally posted by shunga

Whenever I change a members password I set the end date to December 31st 2010, or whatever the latest date is, as I was told that allows the member to be rebilled until he cancels.

Go to your ccbill admin and find out how many active members you have, then go to your password file add up all the users. Compare the numbers and get back to me.