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  • officegirl2006
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2006
    • 159
    #1

    Alexa Graph On CCBill is worrying....

    guys

    i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

    http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

    gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
    but why did it take such a dip mid may????
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    • Cyndalie
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 3615
      #2
      Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?
      Cyndalie
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        • nosey
          Talk Hard
          • Feb 2003
          • 14413
          #3

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            • notoldschool
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2007
              • 5687
              #4
              Originally posted by Cyndalie
              Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?
              I wouldnt be so sure about that.
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                • 12clicks
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 19813
                  #5
                  Originally posted by officegirl2006
                  guys

                  i know alexa isnt always to be trusted with reliability and truthful representation of a sites traffic but

                  http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ils/ccbill.com

                  gives me many causes for concern. ccbill dont seem to respond to this....
                  but why did it take such a dip mid may????
                  they don't respond to irrelevant events.
                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                    • Holly
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 10017
                      #6
                      I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

                      It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.
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                        • officegirl2006
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 159
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Cyndalie
                          Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?
                          yes it does, the ccbill.com encompasses all sub domains, so it is relevant, what, you think like maybe 1/3 of their usual hits just got fucked off with the site mid may?

                          or maybe its ddos issues they have been having...

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                            • officegirl2006
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 159
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Holly
                              I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

                              It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.
                              i am not hell bent over alexa, i know its limitations, it is indicative approximately though, so yeah its relevant to me...

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                                • datatank
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 5471
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                  Why would you care what their .com is doing? Are you wondering if it is indicative of traffic to their join forms or something? This alexa graphic doesn't take into account what is going through secure and sub domains (https - join forms) (bill.ccbill) (affiliateadmin.ccbill.com) so I dont understand why traffic to their commercial front end site would be of concern to you?
                                  Where people go on Ccbill.com:
                                  refer69.33c1331cbi90ll.com - 83373%
                                  bill15.ccbil131911l47.com - 967%
                                  s80uppo21rt.ccb19ill.com - 3%
                                  affiliatea74d18min.c846913cb62ill.com - 3%
                                  we91badmin66.ccb62ill36.75463444c5648o4463m - 3%
                                  cc40bill.com - 3%
                                  a12sh1.ccbill.23co77m - 2%
                                  about.ccbi19ll.33com - 117%
                                  bus56i45ne13sscenter16.48ccbi0ll.91com - 1%
                                  ph2381x2.0ccbi4ll.5565776965com - 1347%

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                                    • Karupted Charles
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 1662
                                      #10
                                      CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.
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                                        • webmasterchecks
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 1685
                                          #11
                                          alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

                                          Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
                                          April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
                                          The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.


                                          One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

                                          http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/
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                                            • tranza
                                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 57559
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by nosey
                                              hahahahaha nice pic!
                                              I'm just a newbie.

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                                                • Taass
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                  • 697
                                                  #13
                                                  This actually concerns me more..


                                                  Site Stats for ccbilleu.com:
                                                  Speed: Slow (69% of sites are faster), Avg Load Time: 2.5 Seconds

                                                  Reward Them - Top Converting CCbill Affiliate Program !

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                                                    • freek01
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 87
                                                      #14
                                                      Maybe it is because of overall sales ?
                                                      My sales went down with 40% in the last 5 months and I did not change a fucking thing all is normal except for my sales. And I am not the only one having this problem.
                                                      So if a lot of people have less sales maybe that's why visitors don't go to ccbill dot com domain where they can cancel their accounts. Simple because less people have to cancel.

                                                      What I would like to know is if ccbill experiences a large drop in sales looking at ALL their webmasters subscriptions.
                                                      That would be usefull information.
                                                      But I know whishfull thinking .......

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                                                        • KillerK
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2008
                                                          • 3406
                                                          #15
                                                          maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?

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                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34512
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Karupted Charles
                                                              CCBill switched much of the images and pages it hosts to its CDN for faster response in local regions. I would wager a bet as it was around that time that the Cname for the CDN they use is not being tracked by alexa hence the drop.
                                                              I was going to say the exact same thing, I'm willing to bet their CDN is messing up Alexa's results as their traffic is being relayed across different servers across the globe and Alexa isnt recognizing that.
                                                              WG
                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                • snaker
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                  • 1281
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Holly
                                                                  I've never understood why people get so bent over Alexa.

                                                                  It's mainly webmasters and Japanese people.
                                                                  agreed, but I still always check the thing!
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                                                                    • HorseShit
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                      • 17513
                                                                      #18
                                                                      who gives a shit who gives a fuck

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                                                                        • officegirl2006
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                          • 159
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by jdavis
                                                                          who gives a shit who gives a fuck
                                                                          i fuckin do you asshole

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                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 22157
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Notice the same people always want to cover up something relevant, with inaccurate or lame excuses and uninformed opinions. Anyone using ccbill on either side of the fence has a valid interest in whether it's something to concern them or not.

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                                                                                • Vexes
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  malware and other spyware

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                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 19813
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by KillerK
                                                                                      maybe someone like lightspeed got smart and switched to a merchant account?
                                                                                      join date, last month
                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        • CCBill Paul
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 1005
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by webmasterchecks
                                                                                          alexa changed the way they measured their stats around that time, they dont rely exclusively on the toolbar any longer, a lot of sites were affected

                                                                                          Alexa Changes Rankings, Goes Beyond Dreaded Toolbar
                                                                                          April 17, 2008 ? 12:07 AM PDT ? by Stan Schroeder ?
                                                                                          The folks at Alexa have announced that their ever so popular (but, many might argue, often inaccurate) ranking system for web sites has been altered. The official word on the changes is slightly vague: Alexa claims ?better rankings,? and ?improved methodology,? but doesn?t go into detail.


                                                                                          One change, however, is definitely a big one: Alexa is now using several sources for its rankings. So far, Alexa has measured rankings of web sites according to the users of their Alexa Toolbarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toolbar , and this was the main source of users? and experts? criticism. For one, the Toolbar is not available for all platforms (you can?t get it for a Mac, and that?s why Mac-oriented sites have always ranked poorly on Alexa). Secondly, the Toolbar was reportedly mostly used by the tech-savvy demographic which are interested in rankings, and therefore various technology and SEO sites were perhaps unfairly well ranked

                                                                                          http://mashable.com/2008/04/17/alexa...eaded-toolbar/
                                                                                          this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

                                                                                          paulk at ccbill.com
                                                                                          Paulk @ CCBill.com | icq 248615940

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                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 22157
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by CCBill Paul
                                                                                              this most likely had a lot to do with the Alexa stats. we have not noticed such a trend on our end at all. if anyone has any CCBill clicks or form hit questions they would like to discuss I would be happy to.

                                                                                              paulk at ccbill.com
                                                                                              Further validation that at least something like this could be responsible, is to compare the results of compete.com and quantcast.com which neither sites indicate a drop corresponding to the same period. While none of them are very accurate, they might help with a correlation of metrics.

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