ISPs to block child porn sites

[ADL Eddie]

http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...37282820080610

NEW YORK, June 10 (Reuters) - Verizon (VZ.N: Quote, Profile, Research), Sprint (S.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Time Warner Cable (TWC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) have agreed to block Internet bulletin boards and websites nationwide that disseminate child pornography, New York's attorney general announced on Tuesday.

The ISPs also agreed with New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo to contribute more than $1.1 million to help the state combat the spread of child pornography. The news was first reported in the New York Times late on Monday.

The companies have agreed to block access to newsgroups that traffic such images on one of the oldest online outposts, known as Usenet, as well as sites that host child pornography.

The agreements will affect customers not just in New York but throughout the country.

"The pervasiveness of child pornography on the Internet is horrific and it needs to be stopped," Cuomo said in a statement. "We are attacking this problem by working with Internet Service Providers to ensure they do not play host to this immoral business."

His office said its undercover investigation uncovered a major source of online child pornography known as "Newsgroups" -- an online service not associated with websites.

Users can use Newsgroups as online bulletin boards where users can upload and download illicit files. The investigation uncovered 88 different Newsgroups that contained a total of 11,390 sexually lewd photos featuring prepubescent children.

After ISPs initially ignored the investigators' complaints, the attorney general's office threatened charges of fraud and deceptive business practices and the companies agreed to cooperate and began weeks of negotiations. (Reporting by Christopher Kaufman and Yinka Adegoke; Editing by Louise Heavens and Braden Reddall)

[MaDalton]

i wish that would work, but they always will find a way around it i'm afraid

[SexualDragon]

good

[payd2purv]

They weren't already doing this?

[G-Rotica]

Originally Posted by payd2purv

They weren't already doing this?

[RayBonga]

They should allow surfers to visit them and then report those sick motherfuckers to the authorities

[Dirty F]

Just yet another new rule to clean the internet from porn. This isnt gonna stop cp whatsoever. This is gonna stop people from running adult sites because they make it harder and harder to do so.

[pimpD]

Great move.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by SexualDragon

good

yeah until they convince NY that porn is as evil as CP and needs to be blocked too. Anyone that can't see where this is headed has got his/her head in the sand.

[rowan]

CP is bad, but so is censoring. Too much chance for collateral damage (will they actually be checking 2257 records or merely base their block decision on how young the models look?) and anyone who isn't an idiot will be able to figure out how to use a proxy or some third party service to get around the block.

[Socks]

I almost spit out my drink LOL

His office said its undercover investigation uncovered a major source of online child pornography known as "Newsgroups" -- an online service not associated with websites.

HAHAHAHA..

$5,000,000 later or something, SIR, OUR RESEARCH HAS UNCOVERED A MAJOR SOURCE OF CHILD PORN!!!! They're calling it... "The Newsgroups" !!!!

[rowan]

Hey Socks, go easy, usenet has only been around for what, 20 years? That history is too short for any govt dept to figure it out.

[pr0]

this is a little bit like "blocking off" a neighborhood known for selling drugs

creating virtual prisons around some areas of the internet

i hope the ACLU will take up the case against this....no matter "how bad" it makes them look

not because of the actual stance they are taking (which is good in motive) but because of the repercussions related to blocking access to any site on the net at the ISP level

[GatorB]

"More than 11,000 images were collected using software that identifies child pornography by tracking patterns in the pixels of the images, Cuomo's office said."

So pretty much anything with midgets or very short women will be labeled as CP.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by RayBonga

They should allow surfers to visit them and then report those sick motherfuckers to the authorities

Oh wow... so let's say some fake nick decides to jump onto GFY, link to CP under the guise of some hot new model or whatever - whatever gets people clicking. So how again were you going to explain that to the authorities?

Sounds a lot similar to... "Honestly officer - that bag of dope is my friends - I have NO IDEA how it got on there!"

Whatever man... think before you spout off one click answers.

[rowan]

pr0 it's the other way around... more like some people's car doors won't unlock if they're driving in that neighbourhood. Everyone else can still get out.

The "threats" from the office to whip the ISPs into submission are definitely of concern, doesn't take much more to ask them to start blocking legal porn.

[NobleSavage]

From what I understand they are going to use a set of hashes of images that are known to be CP. It would be interesting to get a hold of the hash set and run legal porn through it and see if it triggers false positives.

[mozadek]

I was still under the impression that law enforcement agencies allowed the sites to still run so they can arrest new members who sign up.

[Socks]

The FBI even runs some sites themselves to watch whose visiting

They're well known for keeping FTP sites they bust up for a few days to monitor them too

[After Shock Media]

The news reports and shit are showing key words like teen chat and crap like that. They also mention peer 2 peer, chat rooms, bulletin boards, and newsgroups among others. I am far from a technogeek but someone please tell me how they can monitor this without effecting legal speech which just doing it once would invalidate this law.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by rowan

CP is bad, but so is censoring. Too much chance for collateral damage (will they actually be checking 2257 records or merely base their block decision on how young the models look?) and anyone who isn't an idiot will be able to figure out how to use a proxy or some third party service to get around the block.

Yup just like ASACP does. They dont like how a tgp looks because some of the small thumbs have girls on them that look young so they get the site pulled. Idiots.
Stuff like this will happen more and more. The sick fucks having cp sites will still have them and legal sites will get in trouble.

[Jensen]

the ISP's in Norway here have been doing this for years. For instance, I can't visit www.flashbill.com where I get a message from The Child Sexual Abuse Anti-Distribution Filter (CSAADF). I've been in the adult biz for 13 years and have never seen the block in action before this week so I'm really not that concerned that they will block legal pornsites.

[xentech]

Originally Posted by Dirty F

Just yet another new rule to clean the internet from porn. This isnt gonna stop cp whatsoever. This is gonna stop people from running adult sites because they make it harder and harder to do so.

Wahhh Wahhh

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by xentech

Wahhh Wahhh

Whats wrong? You pooped your diapers?

[viencarl]

well thats bad surfers freedom becomes thinner and thinner