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	all battery saving shit should be available to the old iphone via software updates besides that? where is there any word about an improved camera? Still the old crappy camera that can only take incredibly shaky pictures and videos only via 3rd party applications with no sound? What is this... seriously besides 3G which is nice.... why should I switch? Why (in theory) add an additional two years to your contract at higher prices for basically the same, slightly enhanced thing? convince me to upgrade.... i don't get it.  | 
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		 I am thinking about getting one but how high is the service per month ? I haven't had an iphone yet so I have no clue 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 the apple fanboys will go out like crazy to get it... really not all that impressed by the improvements, basically I think this is the phone that should have been here over a year ago... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			this might officially make it the best smartphone NOW but I'm interested to see what the new HTC phones will do... everybody has managed to stay ahead of apple in specs but just been missing a fancy interface. 
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		 exactly... not even being able to improve the crappy camera is very weak apple.... VERY weak. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 They are saving features for the third generation iphone :p 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Yeah gonna stick to my nokia n95 thanks, I like the ability to take photos and video that arn't shit more than something that just looks cool.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 They have the iPhones cracked in Thailand, no contract and for about $125. Not sure how it works, I don't have one, just see them for sale. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Well, they beta tested it with Forbes list billionaires.... I seriously doubt those people were concerned with the quality of the camera. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Apple very carefully designs their products so that consumers will have a path to frequent upgrades. In other words, they hold back. They know that the typical Apple product user is not looking at tech specs. Purchase decisions are being made on marketing campaigns, something Apple is obviously very good at. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 awwww, sounds like someone is stuck with a crappy phone and wants to justify not upgrading to an iphone. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 haven't tried the new version 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 my current iphone is just fine...edge versus 3G isn't really enough for me to rush out and buy the new one on day one... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 This is an excellent phone for $199 and very useful if you travel to Europe often . 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Unfortunately we do not have 3G in my area (yet) but I am definitely looking forward to the GPS. I've seen pics from the camera and they look very decent to me, especially compared to all of my past phones. I already have a digital camera. I would only use my phone for random shots when I do not have my real camera. I think the iphone was developed as a mp3 phone first, not a camera phone.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 I for one like to take some quick snaps with my phone.... Lets not forget that cellphone cameras are the #1 place to get voyeur type shots, the real amateur content where some drunk whore's just flash the tits and you snap it real quick... people are more trusting of a "crappy phone camera" it should be able to focus (first iphone was horrible at it) and WHY NOT bump it up to 3Mp since the competition has done this for this product cycle. Apple's business tactics are simply BAD for the consumer. The product is pretty damn good overall but simply makes me go WTF when I think about how there's NO REASON other than greed as to why this phone wasn't the one out over a year ago. It would have instantly been crowned king if they wouldn't be locked in with ATT and these specs on last years phone. As it stands HTC's new phones and many others are yet again going to have better specs while apple relies on its fanboy base 
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			Wish it could send pictures easily like all other phones...my current phone u just take the picture and select a contact from phone book and send...easy 
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		 yes the n95 is bugless *rolleyes* 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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