GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Serious Question: No Liars Please (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=833485)

raven1083 06-08-2008 07:54 AM

I'm making money in here and always looking forward for more

notime 06-08-2008 08:05 AM

adapt, change, learn, try, improve and continue :)
could not think of a nicer bizz then ours !

Grapesoda 06-08-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14293021)
to clarify, i was trying to get an answer from the people that work at least 20-40 hours in adult and may not consider adult their main income source (they work primary job)...


I work full time in adult as a content producer. personally I don't see much of a future in content production if the last 4 years are any indication of the future of content production.

my production cost have risen 80%-100%+ while webmasters/programs 'for the most part' expect, and do pay the prices they paid in 2001.

should be interesting to see how it goes. since shooting content isn't as profitable as it was, the goods shooters are leaving the biz, OR spending less energy in production, so more and more 'walmart' porn is being produced.

I see lots of 'walmart' porn posted here at GFY. a guy goes into 'walmart', buys a video/stills camera and bingo! a top content house is created. the reality is that is so easy to get in to production these days people with no real interest in the 'art' of production as flooding the market.

what I'm seeing is really, really poor composition, poor set design, bad lighting, incorrect white balance, horrible audio, and even worse post production. it's kinda weird actually to see 'content' on tours that I would have tossed in the delete file if I'd been unfortunate enough to have created it. I'm also seeing very, very, very poor interaction with the models.

if a program owner doesn't give a shit about their content how can they expect a surfer to give a shit? if the operating concept is "I'll buy the cheapest content I can find" can you blame the surfer for having the same thoughts? the thing is the surfer thinking is more like this: "I'll just watch free porn, why pay for this crap?"

and the funniest thing is this: programs can't understand why joins are down. :)

rayadp05 06-08-2008 08:18 AM

I will always be involved with producing porn.

Spyce 06-08-2008 09:03 AM

Been here since '95 - I don't think we'll be leaving the biz any time soon...

DateDoc 06-08-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 14292832)
my mainstream traffic is up yet my earnings per traffic is dropping over the last year, it is a disturbing trend, I can't help but feel like it is all so fragile... soon the new adage will be "there is no money in mainstream"

of course there will always be some very high money earning sites that can just about dictate their own advertising rates, but the little people that are reliant on google and other mickey mouse ppc options are not in what I feel is a long term secure earnings situation

feel free to call me a pessimist

I agree, it may not be easy but if you love what you do you will do it better.

woj 06-08-2008 10:17 AM

Is quiting considered stopping working in adult? or stopping to make money from adult? There is quite a bit of difference, as I would imagine most people would just let the sites die over the next few years rather than sell and get only 6 month income...

HollywoodChris 06-08-2008 10:30 AM

I'll buy a boat and roam the earth.

Zuzana Designs 06-08-2008 10:43 AM

I'm here to stay :) I have a few mainstream things going on too.. but porn is doing well for me :)

Jim_Gunn 06-08-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14293436)
I work full time in adult as a content producer. personally I don't see much of a future in content production if the last 4 years are any indication of the future of content production.

my production cost have risen 80%-100%+ while webmasters/programs 'for the most part' expect, and do pay the prices they paid in 2001.
)

I have been in the adult industry since 1991 and been working as a porn director & content producer most of the time since then. This comment is so true, production costs are at an all time high, and I have been able to raise my price to my clients only by so much. It was much better in 2003 when a producer only had to be better than average to have money thrown at them for multiple scenes at a time. Recently, I have upgraded my production capability again to shoot better quality scenes with better talent, better fluorescent lighting, better makeup, better hi-res still photos shot with strobes every time and better locations so I can charge accordingly and keep my clients happy.

There's still a future in content production but only for those who can produce top notch stuff and those producers who shoot niche content or hard to film content. I have also been concentrating more on filming for my own movies and sites as well and making money online with my own traffic and through different means like VOD. I wish IO would have done this way earlier considering how early I got in the business before the popularity of the internet even, but I had disdain for the lack of original content back on the various porn web sites in the net's early days since I was a "famous" porn director who shot movies for VHS & DVD. If I had I would be retired by now!

Klen 06-08-2008 11:09 AM

Also,toobad i didnt start doing adult web sites when i first encounter affiliate programs...
Instead that i wasted my time on ptr programs and later on caffe bar.Who knows if i started in let's say 2003 instead 2006 maybe i would be millioner already.Now is question will anyone earn money in adult industry.

Penny24Seven 06-08-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14293021)
to clarify, i was trying to get an answer from the people that work at least 20-40 hours in adult and may not consider adult their main income source (they work primary job)...

at some point, i would have to think that working 20-40 extra hours a week in adult but only making an additional $100-$1000 a month at some point isnt worth the effort...

i was asking original question in hopes of getting an idea of how tough it is for the average person to make $ in adult these days and to determine if it is pushing them out of the industry...

so far, it seems (from the initial responses) that most are going to try to stick it out for at least another 6-12 months...

very opposite of what i was expecting, but its late on a weekend... we'll see what the weekday crowd has to say...


your talking about a billion dollar industry and based your question on what a few said that have been in the business for a long time? LOL
I see more people bitching about problems then I do about not making money.
I hate tube sites and think it is stupid to give it away for free. I can't see how it affects my wallet though.

payd2purv 06-08-2008 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14292857)
Leaving adult!?

I have barely gotten started... I'm soo fucking young.. it's great :)

Since fags are flaming me for this comment.

I'm going to say "I'm just getting started" until I die.

it's a fucking saying.

suck my dick.

DirtyProfits 06-08-2008 01:17 PM

Well I will definitely leave adult within the next 2-3 years for an offline job in the investment sector. It used to be easy and it used to be fun making a lot of money with hardly any effort but if the situation does not improve soon and I think it will not I am better off doing something else.

BVF 06-08-2008 01:41 PM

I'm not going ANYWHERE...

James124 06-08-2008 01:47 PM

The few replies here speaks volumes... nh marketsmart

BVF 06-08-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14292976)
as far as what i do, i trade currency

Do you have any suggestions to anything I can find online to help me learn forex?

Nick_Merlot 06-08-2008 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14292801)

Still rockin' in '07.

Damn, doing so good you don't even have to know what year it is, I'm fucking jealous. :winkwink:

marketsmart 06-08-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14294133)
Do you have any suggestions to anything I can find online to help me learn forex?

babypips.com and forexfactory.com

Grapesoda 06-08-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14293783)
I have been in the adult industry since 1991 and been working as a porn director & content producer most of the time since then. This comment is so true, production costs are at an all time high, and I have been able to raise my price to my clients only by so much. It was much better in 2003 when a producer only had to be better than average to have money thrown at them for multiple scenes at a time. Recently, I have upgraded my production capability again to shoot better quality scenes with better talent, better fluorescent lighting, better makeup, better hi-res still photos shot with strobes every time and better locations so I can charge accordingly and keep my clients happy.

There's still a future in content production but only for those who can produce top notch stuff and those producers who shoot niche content or hard to film content. I have also been concentrating more on filming for my own movies and sites as well and making money online with my own traffic and through different means like VOD. I wish IO would have done this way earlier considering how early I got in the business before the popularity of the internet even, but I had disdain for the lack of original content back on the various porn web sites in the net's early days since I was a "famous" porn director who shot movies for VHS & DVD. If I had I would be retired by now!

Jim, can you hit me with an email please. -bmb

jact 06-08-2008 03:36 PM

I'm 11 years into the industry, I'm not sure I could do anything else at this point. I'd be charged with sexual harassment after about 30 seconds.

XMaster 06-08-2008 05:37 PM

i would say 60%

AnneT 06-08-2008 08:00 PM

Things are changing. Already alot of people have been shaken out of the industry. I think it's shrinking but seriously you should still be able to make some nice coin doing something. Just not the way you used to do it.

I'm not going anywhere though. I'm happy to adapt. But I've got a few other areas I can move into ;)

AnneT 06-08-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14294266)
babypips.com and forexfactory.com

Thanks for the links, Marketsmart. Interesting looking sites.

What pairings are you trading? Been working on setups for the Aussie right now. Seems like a nice trending market right now.

Spunky 06-08-2008 08:27 PM

I've always considered it a hobby anyways.diversify and never leave your eggs in one basket

GAMEFINEST 06-08-2008 08:33 PM

im out ..peace

marketsmart 06-08-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnneT (Post 14294957)
Thanks for the links, Marketsmart. Interesting looking sites.

What pairings are you trading? Been working on setups for the Aussie right now. Seems like a nice trending market right now.

i only trade GBP/JPY.. very volatile, very big swings...

BVF 06-08-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14295015)
i only trade GBP/JPY.. very volatile, very big swings...

So what do you think of someone sticking to the Euro/Dollar pair?

AnneT 06-08-2008 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14295015)
i only trade GBP/JPY.. very volatile, very big swings...

Thanks I'll check that out. I've noticed alot of volatility in JPY pairings. AUD/JPY is pretty attractive to me being based in Australia.

marketsmart 06-08-2008 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14295193)
So what do you think of someone sticking to the Euro/Dollar pair?

the EUR/USD is a good pair to trade. the best thing to do is find a pair you like and start learning everything you can about what moves the pair..

also you need to figure out if you want to be a long term or short term trader..

set up a practice account somewhere like forex.com and start playing around with it..

when you get comfortable trading, try a real money acct..

i will warn you, forex is not for the faint of heart. you can lose money fast if you dont watch what you are doing.

the best advice i can give is learn all you can, hit the forex forums and ask a lot of questions, and set rules and stick to them..

marketsmart 06-08-2008 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnneT (Post 14295236)
Thanks I'll check that out. I've noticed alot of volatility in JPY pairings. AUD/JPY is pretty attractive to me being based in Australia.

i dont ever look at that pair, so i cant really say... but, it def helps to know alot about the pairs economy and what moves it...

so, that pair is probably a good pair for you since you live in australia and see the economy first hand...

but, a word of caution; the forex market is crazy.. sometimes what you think will make a pair go one way, will actually go the opposite...

just learn to look for the trends...

AnneT 06-09-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14295300)
but, a word of caution; the forex market is crazy.. sometimes what you think will make a pair go one way, will actually go the opposite...

just learn to look for the trends...

Yeah I've noticed that. Can be violently choppy in any pair pretty much. I'm aiming to learn this stuff over years before I even start trading proper. Gotta be realistic.

tranza 06-09-2008 08:52 AM

I don't think so...

Pinklinkz 06-09-2008 10:49 AM

i started a mainstream forum a little over a year ago vista ready games and its doing sweet ... just redone pinklinkz.com to give it one last go before i close for good


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:19 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123